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Anonymous Coward User ID: 653883 United States 04/10/2009 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: HardTruthSo are you. So are you!! :teeeehee: I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read this exact description/story before. Are you the originator of the story, OP? Quoting: ThreshingSwordYes, you probably read it on my web site: [link to savemenowjesus.com] I get about 1000 clicks per month. People just searching for the truth. Ah yes, I did read that. I loved your story. The part about your stint as a Catholic priest made me laugh so hard! Not at the pain that you had to go through, of course, but at the way you wrote about that experience. We all make mistakes, but at least you can laugh about yours! God bless you. And I find when you say "All in all, Jesus has been a wonderful friend" to be completely true in my case as well. Thanks. We all have our own journey. Getting to know God is a process.... it takes a while. I've been doing my best to follow Jesus wholeheartedly now for almost 30 years. I feel like I an now just getting to the point where I feel like I could be useful in full time ministry. For now I am a school teacher and this is where I'll stay unless Jesus calls me to something else. Thanks again for your comments and take it one day at a time!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: HardTruthSo are you. So are you!! :teeeehee: ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) Good afternoon Mr. Hardtruth. I've been busy with other posts. I'll try to re-read what this is all about to see if I can comment. |
HardTruth User ID: 548904 United States 04/10/2009 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: Anonymous Coward 653883So are you. So are you!! I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! I am anti christian not pro!! And yes, Paul was acting on his own, he was anti jewish!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 649780: You mentioned "Repentence from Sin" Yes, that is what people have to do in order to find Jesus. There are so many people out there who practice fornication or lying or stealing etc. and think that God is going to answer their prayers. Well, he doesn't. They call on God as he is not because they know him not. To find Jesus and have his glory actually helping you in this life a person must flee sin [keep the 10 commandments] and have faith that he will answer. Until a person does these things they will not know the awesome friendship of Jesus Christ. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That being is a reflection of anyone that attains the higher consciousness. This is why Christians are not growing spiritually. They look for their savior outside of themselves. This can be acheived anytime with "change of thought" and compassion. It is the only WAY. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593154I communed with this consciousness, my true essence, for a period of time. You communed with the source, the Source, which is like a powerplant in the middle of a city. Just because you plugged into the source, doesn't mean you are the source. btw, how do you know Christians aren't growing spirituall? did you poll them all? Christians are growing.... Churches are growing!!! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: HardTruthSo are you. So are you!! :teeeehee: I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! I am anti christian not pro!! And yes, Paul was acting on his own, he was anti jewish!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) What??? "I am anti christian not pro" How can you be against a group of people? You know there are about a billion people on this planet who call themselves christian. That's a lot of people to be agains. Besides, my post was about the Perfection of Jesus, not imperfect christians. |
HardTruth User ID: 548904 United States 04/10/2009 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654365Truer words were never spoken! LOL Lol... ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) |
HardTruth User ID: 548904 United States 04/10/2009 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: Once4AllSo are you. So are you!! I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! I am anti christian not pro!! And yes, Paul was acting on his own, he was anti jewish!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) What??? "I am anti christian not pro" How can you be against a group of people? You know there are about a billion people on this planet who call themselves christian. That's a lot of people to be agains. Besides, my post was about the Perfection of Jesus, not imperfect christians. Hey, mass hysteria is not to be taken lightly, just ask the ones burnt at the stakes!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) Last Edited by HardTruth on 04/10/2009 05:14 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 05:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u saw your own perfedction within you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654420I can assure you that I am far from perfect. I saw the perfection of Jesus in my spirit. That's what happened. I know Jesus and he has blessed me with the promise of eternal life. Sorry but you are mistaken! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 654420 Mexico 04/10/2009 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u saw your own perfedction within you. Quoting: Once4AllI can assure you that I am far from perfect. I saw the perfection of Jesus in my spirit. That's what happened. I know Jesus and he has blessed me with the promise of eternal life. Sorry but you are mistaken! Yes u are. It is your philosophy of life that prevents you from seeing or admitting it. When you see perfection it is your spirit connecting to this universal truth. You dont need to personify it as Jesus -- afterall most dont even know who Jesus is, yet they are just as capable of seeing perfection. I dont mind you saying you are imperfect. Go ahead. But just dont generalize on other people, or limit your experience to a certain club... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's in u too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 593154Again, the only perfection in me is God the Holy Spirit. "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust" we will all die someday. How perfect is that? It is not. We are all under a death sentence as a result of sin in the world and need as saviour for redemption. Through the nation of Israel a saviour was promised by the prophets. We knew so many things about Jesus before he was even born. We knew where he would be born, of what house he would come, what would happen in his life, what his mission was, and how he would die. Jesus died for the sin of thw world that we might be saved. Y'all who think "the perfection is within u " need to face your own death. It will happen and nothing will save you from it unless you come to a knowledge of Jesus Christ by studying the Scriptures. My prayers and best wishes are with you! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 654420 Mexico 04/10/2009 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's in u too. Quoting: Once4AllAgain, the only perfection in me is God the Holy Spirit. "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust" we will all die someday. How perfect is that? It is not. We are all under a death sentence as a result of sin in the world and need as saviour for redemption. Through the nation of Israel a saviour was promised by the prophets. We knew so many things about Jesus before he was even born. We knew where he would be born, of what house he would come, what would happen in his life, what his mission was, and how he would die. Jesus died for the sin of thw world that we might be saved. Y'all who think "the perfection is within u " need to face your own death. It will happen and nothing will save you from it unless you come to a knowledge of Jesus Christ by studying the Scriptures. My prayers and best wishes are with you! Fuck you, then. I asked you to keep it to yourself. Now you are insulting me and holding yourself up holier than thou. When you die you will face the wrath of all those you condemned to hell for no other reason than they didnt have your selfish beliefs. Oh yes,,, My prayers are with you, and your damned soul... |
astrogal50 User ID: 588885 United States 04/10/2009 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for sharing. Spiritual visions and unusual experiences are much more common than people know. What? No one jumping on you for posting about something spiritual on a "conspiracy" site? Maybe people are finally waking up to the truth: You could say everything is spiritual because everything is God in disguise. So this site is as good as any other to reveal the ultimate conspiracy, that this is true and the power elite do not want you to know it. Why? Because eventually you will wake up, balance all of your karma, and graduate out of this existence that is a nightmare in comparison to the spiritual realm. |
astrogal50 User ID: 588885 United States 04/10/2009 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for sharing. Spiritual visions and unusual experiences are much more common than people know. What? No one jumping on you for posting about something spiritual on a "conspiracy" site? Maybe people are finally waking up to the truth: You could say everything is spiritual because everything is God in disguise. So this site is as good as any other to reveal the ultimate conspiracy, that this is true and the power elite do not want you to know it. Why? Because eventually you will wake up, balance all of your karma, and graduate out of this existence that is a nightmare in comparison to the spiritual realm. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u saw your own perfedction within you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 654420I can assure you that I am far from perfect. I saw the perfection of Jesus in my spirit. That's what happened. I know Jesus and he has blessed me with the promise of eternal life. Sorry but you are mistaken! Yes u are. It is your philosophy of life that prevents you from seeing or admitting it. When you see perfection it is your spirit connecting to this universal truth. You dont need to personify it as Jesus -- afterall most dont even know who Jesus is, yet they are just as capable of seeing perfection. I dont mind you saying you are imperfect. Go ahead. But just dont generalize on other people, or limit your experience to a certain club... I know that you DO NOT KNOW about my experiences. You say that it is my "philosophy...." It is not my philosophy, I talking about my experience...there is a big differnce. And again you say, "You don't need to personify it as Jesus...." I'm telling you I SAW JESUS and his PERFECTION. Your problem is that you are imposing your philosophy on my experience. I know what I saw. P.S. When you are wrong you become ugly and crude. That is called sin and that is why you need a saviour! |
Uriel User ID: 512435 United States 04/10/2009 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: HardTruthSo are you. So are you!! I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! I am anti christian not pro!! And yes, Paul was acting on his own, he was anti jewish!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) You know history. Last Edited by Uriel on 04/10/2009 06:10 PM By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for sharing. Spiritual visions and unusual experiences are much more common than people know. Quoting: astrogal50 588885What? No one jumping on you for posting about something spiritual on a "conspiracy" site? Maybe people are finally waking up to the truth: You could say everything is spiritual because everything is God in disguise. So this site is as good as any other to reveal the ultimate conspiracy, that this is true and the power elite do not want you to know it. Why? Because eventually you will wake up, balance all of your karma, and graduate out of this existence that is a nightmare in comparison to the spiritual realm. Your welcome. I completely agree that "spiritual visions and unusual experiences are much more common than people know." Many times the Laws of this Universe are broken and people have a lot of trouble ackowledging that. For example, out of body experiences are far more common than people ever thought now that we have modern medicine and an internet to share our experience. And, despite that, many choose to remain in denial about such phenomena. There is life after death.... life out of the body. The question becomes how do we make sure it is as pleasant as possible because - out of the body - some people have very beautiful experience and others very scary experiences. As a result of my life experience i feel certain i have some answers and freely share them with othes. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 642563 United States 04/10/2009 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: HardTruthSo are you. So are you!! :teeeehee: I have already proven it is all BS; it is up to you to prove to yourself you are right. Begin here: To whom was this Pauline material written? Not us today, or at anytime after the deaths of all the original people involved. Your conclusions should be exactly the same as any conclusion you would reach regarding any said "prophecy" that dealt with a coming doom, and failed. You wouldn t believe it. Your position is based on a single idea; you think god was behind Paul's words. Here's a thought ... what if Paul was acting on his own? What if - god - had nothing to do with it? Ooops, maybe I got something backwards here!! I am anti christian not pro!! And yes, Paul was acting on his own, he was anti jewish!! ___________ If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! "Most Jews do not like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer." - (Harold Wallace Rosenthal) "There is no religion higher than TRUTH" "The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity" Nothing is more dangerous, than trying to give truth to people, who are stuck in their ways... "Whoever shall find out the true sense of the Book of Genesis ought to take care not to divulge it…If a person should discover the true meaning of it by himself, or by the aid of another, then he ought to be silent, or if he speaks he ought to speak of it obscurely, in an enigmatical manner, as I do myself" - (Rabbi Moses Maimonides) Or maybe.....just maybe the HARDTRUTH within you overwhelmed your consciousness inspiring you to write what you did! Some people call that a freudian slip, Yes? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 654420 Mexico 04/10/2009 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | u saw your own perfedction within you. Quoting: Once4AllI can assure you that I am far from perfect. I saw the perfection of Jesus in my spirit. That's what happened. I know Jesus and he has blessed me with the promise of eternal life. Sorry but you are mistaken! Yes u are. It is your philosophy of life that prevents you from seeing or admitting it. When you see perfection it is your spirit connecting to this universal truth. You dont need to personify it as Jesus -- afterall most dont even know who Jesus is, yet they are just as capable of seeing perfection. I dont mind you saying you are imperfect. Go ahead. But just dont generalize on other people, or limit your experience to a certain club... I know that you DO NOT KNOW about my experiences. You say that it is my "philosophy...." It is not my philosophy, I talking about my experience...there is a big differnce. And again you say, "You don't need to personify it as Jesus...." I'm telling you I SAW JESUS and his PERFECTION. Your problem is that you are imposing your philosophy on my experience. I know what I saw. P.S. When you are wrong you become ugly and crude. That is called sin and that is why you need a saviour! YOu need a savior because you feel guilt. By all means repent and pursue the perfection which is your birthright. When you say you saw Jesus' perfection only means you saw your own perfection. I dont really care that you call it Jesus or anything else. I'll pray for your salvation. Obviously you need it... |
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All for God`s Glory User ID: 654532 Canada 04/10/2009 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh are you in for a shock Quoting: Once4AllSo are you. No, I have spent years looking at this; it's all a delusion that was created by one man, probably with a brain injury. There were many years of history leading up to the birth of the Messiah [Jesus] and many years since with thousands of people giving testimony to the truth. Your "one man" theory makes no sense at all. Seek and you will find.... the decision will mean the difference between heaven and hell. proof on this website: www.SpiritLessons.com JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE... JESUS CHRIST IS THE SAME YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER... |