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NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 903288 United States 03/04/2010 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do understand that Aspirin is a salicylate right? We are talking about a huge family that includes the wintergreen flavor. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 912412 United States 03/10/2010 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 15 Oct 2009 Too Many "Vaccinations", Too Much Aspirin, Too Little Vitamin C and WAY Too Much Rockefeller in 1918 "The descriptions of flu-related, aspirin-induced lung disease by Doctor Starko are gripping. She cites records of doctors describing aspirin lung as looking like "the lungs of the drowned." There were small hemorrhages in the lungs which appeared "dark and red and wet, dripping wet." Bill Sardi Health Researcher, Note please read this insightful article the knowledge will serve you well in 2009 - 2012 "Aspirin depletes the body of vitamin C. Aspirin is known as one of the most powerful drugs at depleting vitamin C in normally healthy individuals." [Journal Clinical Pharmacology 1973; 13: 480] "There is incontrovertible evidence that a shortage of vitamin C, emanating from poor diet, smoking, overuse of alcohol, aspirin, or vitamin-depleting drugs (the very drugs they treat flu patients with – steroids, antibiotics, etc.), is likely the primary cause of flu-related mortality.” Bill Sardi Health Researcher, Note dehydration and low vitamin D and selenium levels can do you in also The true picture of what happened in 1918 is starting to emerge for those who have followed the flood of information we are currently getting about 1918. If you do not believe in conspiracy you may as well stop reading now because 1918 is one VAST conspiracy. The twentieth century began with a "small pox vaccination" experiment in the Philippines that killed MANY thousands after 95% of the population had received at least two "vaccinations". IMO this may have been a trial run for 1918. In 1911 vaccination was made mandatory for the US Military. Rothschild's aspirin, the first modern drug was widely used by the US Military. It was heavily administered to those soldiers stricken with fever and flu. We now know you should NEVER give aspirin or any fever lowering drug for a normal body cleansing fever. Before being shipped overseas to fight and die in a needless war our troops received as many as 25 "vaccinations". Among these was the Pertussis vaccination proven to heavily suppress your immune system and the typhus vaccination which was so toxic it could by itself often kill you. While in Europe the troops ate a LOT of processed dry food which contained NO vitamin C. All this created a perfect storm for death by design. With their bodies, and immune systems weakened by the many dozens of toxic "vaccinations" and poor vitamin C deficient "food" the weakened troops often went to the infirmary with pneumonia where they were loaded up with aspirin and other toxins in the form of ad hoc "drugs". What little vitamin C they had in their bodies was quickly depleted by the vitamin C depleting aspirin and other ad hoc "drugs" they were given. Tissue replacement requires large amounts of vitamin C. Without the vitamin C our troops could not replace the pneumonia damaged lung tissue and arteries and they literally bled to death. [link to healthyprotocols.com] Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 10/30/2011 08:09 PM |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 911844 United States 03/10/2010 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read through what is written and it is elaborate. As expected it is not accurate, you should ask yourself, why? When you boil white willow bark, you get salicylic acid. I think it was first recorded in the 17th century. This is a very bitter and unpleasant substance when consumed. I don't remember who, to lazy to google it, but a dude who help start Bayer or started Bayer attempted to make it less bitter. This was the late 18th century early 18th century I believe. He made many different salicylic acid. I don't remember names, been a long time since in school, but you can google and find the name easily I am sure. They were bitter, or some had toxins, until he was able to synthesis acetylsalicylic acid. This one has no obvious toxins and was not nearly as bitter as the rest and bam, we have Aspirin. I think he used acetic acid and salicylic acid extracted from where, white willow bark, the NATURAL way. They still do this today, it is cheap, and safe. If you are going to come with some website please have some that are less obviously one-sided. It wouldn't hurt to find a real study now and again. You know what, tons of homeopathic, neutropathic DOCTORS, that is right MD/PHD's out there. They when to school and they publish in periodicals, professionally. Pleas attempt to find them. You would have to take a much larger quantity of white willow bark to get the same effect as acetylsalicylic acid. Please do some research. It will take an hour at most. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
mopar28m User ID: 912073 United States 03/10/2010 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anti-pyretics lower the fever & make the sickness last longer. Anti-pyretics are also shutting down the immune system if you have the H1N1 flu. The best thing you can take for the H1N1 flu is D3. 150,000 IU/day for a week, you'll be feeling better in just a few days. Then 10,000 IU/day until you can get some time out in the sun. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 911844 United States 03/10/2010 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anti-pyretics lower the fever & make the sickness last longer. Anti-pyretics are also shutting down the immune system if you have the H1N1 flu. Quoting: mopar28mThe best thing you can take for the H1N1 flu is D3. 150,000 IU/day for a week, you'll be feeling better in just a few days. Then 10,000 IU/day until you can get some time out in the sun. It is taught today and a very common practice in medicine to remove covers and not to give anti-pyretics or "fever reducers" unless they reach a temp. that is dangerous. I depends on age and condition of the patient. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 914218 United States 03/12/2010 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he used acetic acid and salicylic acid extracted from where, white willow bark, the NATURAL way. They still do this today, it is cheap, and safe. Man you are either dense or a shill. I cannot decide. In this laboratory exercise, you can prepare aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) from salicylic acid and acetic anhydride using the following reaction: salicylic acid (C7H6O3) + acetic anhydride (C4H6O3) --> acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) + acetic acid (C2H4O2) [link to chemistry.about.com] The synthesis of aspirin is classified as an esterification reaction. This is a substitution reaction is a reaction where an alcohol (the OH- group from salicylic acid) reacts with an acid to form an ester acetylsalicylic acid (ASA). THE MECHANISM FOR THE ESTERIFICATION REACTION This page looks in detail at the mechanism for the formation of esters from carboxylic acids and alcohols in the presence of concentrated sulphuric acid acting as the catalyst. It uses the formation of ethyl ethanoate from ethanoic acid and ethanol as a typical example. [link to www.chemguide.co.uk] acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) Does NOT occur in nature it is a CHEMICAL created by man which when You ingest it your body immediately rejects and tries to eliminate as quickly as possible. Just like all the other chemical drugs that are so toxic. |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 913875 United States 03/12/2010 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he used acetic acid and salicylic acid extracted from where, white willow bark, the NATURAL way. They still do this today, it is cheap, and safe. Man you are either dense or a shill. I cannot decide. In this laboratory exercise, you can prepare aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) from salicylic acid and acetic anhydride using the following reaction: salicylic acid (C7H6O3) + acetic anhydride (C4H6O3) --> acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) + acetic acid (C2H4O2) [link to chemistry.about.com] The synthesis of aspirin is classified as an esterification reaction. This is a substitution reaction is a reaction where an alcohol (the OH- group from salicylic acid) reacts with an acid to form an ester acetylsalicylic acid (ASA). THE MECHANISM FOR THE ESTERIFICATION REACTION This page looks in detail at the mechanism for the formation of esters from carboxylic acids and alcohols in the presence of concentrated sulphuric acid acting as the catalyst. It uses the formation of ethyl ethanoate from ethanoic acid and ethanol as a typical example. [link to www.chemguide.co.uk] acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) Does NOT occur in nature it is a CHEMICAL created by man which when You ingest it your body immediately rejects and tries to eliminate as quickly as possible. Just like all the other chemical drugs that are so toxic. I was trying to be a nice as possible and keep it simple. You basically showed exactly what I said, did you read what you wrote? Salicylic acid was discovered from WHITE WILLOW BARK! It is clear you nothing about chemistry. You would understand how harmless this is. You must be a shill for the lets-feed-off-the-ignorant-website-with-our-bullshit-propaganda. For the record, I never claimed I was a genius. I about 10 points away from being legally retarded and I could tell those links were fucking bunk. Who are you trying to convince, chimps? [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 913875 United States 03/12/2010 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he used acetic acid and salicylic acid extracted from where, white willow bark, the NATURAL way. They still do this today, it is cheap, and safe. Man you are either dense or a shill. I cannot decide. In this laboratory exercise, you can prepare aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) from salicylic acid and acetic anhydride using the following reaction: salicylic acid (C7H6O3) + acetic anhydride (C4H6O3) --> acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) + acetic acid (C2H4O2) [link to chemistry.about.com] The synthesis of aspirin is classified as an esterification reaction. This is a substitution reaction is a reaction where an alcohol (the OH- group from salicylic acid) reacts with an acid to form an ester acetylsalicylic acid (ASA). THE MECHANISM FOR THE ESTERIFICATION REACTION This page looks in detail at the mechanism for the formation of esters from carboxylic acids and alcohols in the presence of concentrated sulphuric acid acting as the catalyst. It uses the formation of ethyl ethanoate from ethanoic acid and ethanol as a typical example. [link to www.chemguide.co.uk] acetylsalicylic acid (C9H8O4) Does NOT occur in nature it is a CHEMICAL created by man which when You ingest it your body immediately rejects and tries to eliminate as quickly as possible. Just like all the other chemical drugs that are so toxic. I mean you could have taken on acetaminophen, sodium naproxen or ibuprofen, but you choose aspirin. Their is more chemical reactions and "unnatural" fixing that goes on in half the "natural" supplements on the market. Hell, making beer, has more going on than making aspirin. Do you understand how many things in this world, compounded by man, have agents in them so much worse than acetic anhydride? I see people like you every once in awhile in the pharmacy. They talk with me about how great Co Q10 is or glucosamine and chondroitin. They don't understand that the process to make a fucking TWINKIE has more safety and protection for the consumer than does these "Neutracueticals". They don't understand that glucosamine alone IS absorbed into the body and it does work, but than chondroitin is TOTAL BULLSHIT. They don't understand that you body makes Co Q10 and that taking a supplement, that cost a shit load, does not metabolize in the body, you pass it and CAN NOT ABSORB IT! You "natural" freaks are P.T. Barnum's wet dream. Real "natural" doctors and people who actually research it, understand what they are doing. They understand how the body works. They understand is mechanism of action with regards to St. Johns Wort or Echinacea. They understand that you can simple get most of what you think you are getting from food. They understand that MOST of the supplements people purchase are not absorbed and are wasted! But only "BigPharma" is going to get you. I AM SICK OF THIS SHIT! [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
Nyhee7 User ID: 912940 United States 03/12/2010 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used vitamin c and d successfully against a cold late last year. But this February, I got a flu that they wouldn't work against. I finally discovered I needed to supplement b vitamins. That cured me quickly. Later, two weeks ago, I was in contact with someone who gave me the stomach flu. It almost killed me. Co-Q 10 and vitamin c from lemons helped, but I swear that God was the one who saved me. I still have fluid coming into my lungs. I learned that the spanish flu sucked out vitamin c, influenza B sucks out your co-Q10, and the latest flus suck out your vitamin B's. I swear viruses and flus are man made, maybe before or during the days of Noah. They don't seem to be natural. They seemed to be programmed to attack you and kill the host. Most microscopic organisms in nature strive to form a balance or symbiotic relationship where each benefit, like algae and lichen on trees. But viruses and colds seem intent on killing us. I find that odd. They really do seem programmed to me. If you get sick this year, I implore you to take c, d, b complex vitamins and co-q10, and not from source naturals, they suck. I bought them first, and couldn't feel their effect, then bought another brand and I have gotten better now. I think gnc might be okay for vitamins. Perhaps it is best to research the best vitamins, probably the ones that cancer patients and institutes recommend. They are little higher sometimes, but at least they work. |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 913875 United States 03/12/2010 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used vitamin c and d successfully against a cold late last year. But this February, I got a flu that they wouldn't work against. I finally discovered I needed to supplement b vitamins. That cured me quickly. Quoting: Nyhee7 912940Later, two weeks ago, I was in contact with someone who gave me the stomach flu. It almost killed me. Co-Q 10 and vitamin c from lemons helped, but I swear that God was the one who saved me. I still have fluid coming into my lungs. I learned that the spanish flu sucked out vitamin c, influenza B sucks out your co-Q10, and the latest flus suck out your vitamin B's. I swear viruses and flus are man made, maybe before or during the days of Noah. They don't seem to be natural. They seemed to be programmed to attack you and kill the host. Most microscopic organisms in nature strive to form a balance or symbiotic relationship where each benefit, like algae and lichen on trees. But viruses and colds seem intent on killing us. I find that odd. They really do seem programmed to me. If you get sick this year, I implore you to take c, d, b complex vitamins and co-q10, and not from source naturals, they suck. I bought them first, and couldn't feel their effect, then bought another brand and I have gotten better now. I think gnc might be okay for vitamins. Perhaps it is best to research the best vitamins, probably the ones that cancer patients and institutes recommend. They are little higher sometimes, but at least they work. C, D and B vitamin supplements are effective. The Co Q10, from all studies, does nothing. It was probably just the lemon juice, sleep, and vitamin supplements. Be careful with the D and B though, to much can be a bit dangerous. You can take a lot more C than they tell you. I am not sure how good B vitamin supplements are, other than just a multi, when you are not sick. Do you really need that extra energy? [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
Nyhee7 User ID: 912940 United States 03/13/2010 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used vitamin c and d successfully against a cold late last year. But this February, I got a flu that they wouldn't work against. I finally discovered I needed to supplement b vitamins. That cured me quickly. Quoting: NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinjaLater, two weeks ago, I was in contact with someone who gave me the stomach flu. It almost killed me. Co-Q 10 and vitamin c from lemons helped, but I swear that God was the one who saved me. I still have fluid coming into my lungs. I learned that the Spanish flu sucked out vitamin c, influenza B sucks out your co-Q10, and the latest flues suck out your vitamin B's. I swear viruses and flues are man made, maybe before or during the days of Noah. They don't seem to be natural. They seemed to be programmed to attack you and kill the host. Most microscopic organisms in nature strive to form a balance or symbiotic relationship where each benefit, like algae and lichen on trees. But viruses and colds seem intent on killing us. I find that odd. They really do seem programmed to me. If you get sick this year, I implore you to take c, d, b complex vitamins and co-q10, and not from source naturals, they suck. I bought them first, and couldn't feel their effect, then bought another brand and I have gotten better now. I think gnc might be okay for vitamins. Perhaps it is best to research the best vitamins, probably the ones that cancer patients and institutes recommend. They are little higher sometimes, but at least they work. C, D and B vitamin supplements are effective. The Co Q10, from all studies, does nothing. It was probably just the lemon juice, sleep, and vitamin supplements. Be careful with the D and B though, to much can be a bit dangerous. You can take a lot more C than they tell you. I am not sure how good B vitamin supplements are, other than just a multi, when you are not sick. Do you really need that extra energy? They did studies a decade ago, doctors in europe and mexico gave their heart patients coQ10 and they had a higher survival rate. It saved my life in 96, so I know it works. Below is the Wikipedia link to co-q10. The conflicting reports of its benefits, American doctors, surprisingly, not, saying that it doesn't benefit people, and the majority of studies showing that it does. Imagine that, a natural substance pharmaceutical companies can't patent being dismissed despite many studies saying that it helps. Maybe I should be a good citizen and support my institutions in America that say I should buy their 100$ heart pills instead? [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
NeoFistOfTheGolgoNinja User ID: 913875 United States 03/13/2010 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used vitamin c and d successfully against a cold late last year. But this February, I got a flu that they wouldn't work against. I finally discovered I needed to supplement b vitamins. That cured me quickly. Quoting: Nyhee7 912940Later, two weeks ago, I was in contact with someone who gave me the stomach flu. It almost killed me. Co-Q 10 and vitamin c from lemons helped, but I swear that God was the one who saved me. I still have fluid coming into my lungs. I learned that the Spanish flu sucked out vitamin c, influenza B sucks out your co-Q10, and the latest flues suck out your vitamin B's. I swear viruses and flues are man made, maybe before or during the days of Noah. They don't seem to be natural. They seemed to be programmed to attack you and kill the host. Most microscopic organisms in nature strive to form a balance or symbiotic relationship where each benefit, like algae and lichen on trees. But viruses and colds seem intent on killing us. I find that odd. They really do seem programmed to me. If you get sick this year, I implore you to take c, d, b complex vitamins and co-q10, and not from source naturals, they suck. I bought them first, and couldn't feel their effect, then bought another brand and I have gotten better now. I think gnc might be okay for vitamins. Perhaps it is best to research the best vitamins, probably the ones that cancer patients and institutes recommend. They are little higher sometimes, but at least they work. C, D and B vitamin supplements are effective. The Co Q10, from all studies, does nothing. It was probably just the lemon juice, sleep, and vitamin supplements. Be careful with the D and B though, to much can be a bit dangerous. You can take a lot more C than they tell you. I am not sure how good B vitamin supplements are, other than just a multi, when you are not sick. Do you really need that extra energy? They did studies a decade ago, doctors in europe and mexico gave their heart patients coQ10 and they had a higher survival rate. It saved my life in 96, so I know it works. Below is the Wikipedia link to co-q10. The conflicting reports of its benefits, American doctors, surprisingly, not, saying that it doesn't benefit people, and the majority of studies showing that it does. Imagine that, a natural substance pharmaceutical companies can't patent being dismissed despite many studies saying that it helps. Maybe I should be a good citizen and support my institutions in America that say I should buy their 100$ heart pills instead? [link to en.wikipedia.org] Doctors prescribe Fish Oil, exercise, better diet, lifestyle change, all the time. Your point is not based entirely in fact. [link to www.youtube.com] A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.-- Thomas Jefferson |
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Daniel User ID: 368082 United States 07/18/2010 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Aspirin KILLS !!! 101.5 Temp and above KILLS Flu !!! When one takes aspirin to reduce fever = Lengthens Flu and easily get Pneumonia!!! And other Complications!!! Best to Tough it out with the Higher Temp which KILLS the Flu & Cold Germs!!! Daniel |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1050872 Saudi Arabia 07/28/2010 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ban some of these inept posters who wrecked this thread. Where are the mods? I am impressed with NeoFist... who openly admitted that he is a mere 10 points away from retardation. What a breath of fresh air!! Plus, he stood up for himself and provided some vital information. Bravo. I just read today that the Parsees of Iran noticed that birds were dying after eating the corpses of their dead. This is what they do--leave their dead out to be devoured. Anyway, they discovered that Panadol in the corpses' livers was killing the birds. Panadol can stay in the liver for five years. It is not aspirin, but it is the main painkiller here in KSA. I think I took one a few months ago, so my liver is toxic for five years. I don't really care what causes a headache. Mostly, it's stress, and an aspirin cures it. If aspirin did not relieve the pain, I would never use it, and I am certainly not going to see a doctor about a headache. |