Abortion Doctor George Tiller Dead

typical rhetoric i heard when i was young and pregnant
I am so selfish to want my baby. I did not say i wanted an abortion I was pointing out that adopting is as painful if not more

Why adopt it then? Was there no possibility of you keeping the child?

I do understand that it may not have been possible to keep the child however, that should be used as an excuse to abort in itself.

Karmically, it is still far worse to abort.

I know that BIRTH is a staggering concept.

But being BORN makes fetus into a baby and a person.

I think that the notion of BIRTH is how nature decided a baby has gone from being a fetus to an individual.

If you're Catholic, tho, the act of emitting semen belongs to God, to the point where if you interfere with the semen getting to the egg you are disrupting the life God planned. Which is why Catholics say masturbation and birth control are sins. So going by religious doctrine, condoms are murder.

How many condom-wearers have you executed this week?

Hello, as I read your post, I just wanted to reach out and hold you, and for you to hold me. I wish you were closer to talk with, though I'm on the other side of the world.
I wonder if we could chat somehow? I had an abortion; how I wish I would have not. I also felt your heart when you said for the past 25 years how its on your mind each day, another reason I'd love to hug you so you knew someone really cared.

From the moment of birth the child is able to live outside the womb. That nature directs when a child is born, for a particular species, puts nature in charge of that decision.

So, let me get this straight...
A baby is only an individual human being once "it's" been exposed to air? Until then "it's" an "it" and a non-living non-person? A section of mom, until "it" hits the table?
Yep, that's brilliant science.

Putting nature in charge...?

What was nature doing whilst the child was living inside the womb. LoL

I will tell you who the sick fuck is. I think it is Obama who made Sebelius the Secretary of Health and Human Services. What is healthy about killing a baby? What kind of human service does killing a baby provide. Yet Obama, the sick fuck that he is, put Kathleen Seblius who was best buddy with George Tiller to the point of giving him a reception in her governors mansion, into the position of Secretary of Health. What a sick joke that is.

I hope Kathleen Sebelius isn't next on the killers list!!!

Yes, we both see the paradox then. That's also what Andromeda just told me in her last response :-)

The good doctor was the recipient of a VERY late term abortion.

Is the AC still here, if you are, lets see if we can connect

WICHITA KS

I'd say that Dr. Tiller's legacy will be threads such as this.

The names/case histories may fade into oblivion: unless, of course we here in KS have another crusading AG who thinks patients' histories are public info!

POINT: Tiller was relentlessly pursued by a previous KS AG who demanded his records be made PUBLIC - a case that Tiller fought and WON at great cost to himself and his practice. AND: which created a legal PRECEDENT of stopping governmental inspection of the medical records of PRIVATE CITIZENS.

STARTING TO GET THE PICTURE?

Tiller was essentially fighting the NWO [or whatever name you attach to it] while he was championing the individual rights of his patients.

I wonder what Hippocrates would have to say about today's developments?

Last Edited by GSB/LTD on 05/31/2009 06:36 PM

So if I shove you up an elephant's ass, by this logic you then become part of the elephant. Poor elephant.

This has convinced me more than anything seen on GLP, You religious right "humans" are evil.

Breaking, the post that Anti-Abortion people will hate because of the truth:

Thread: the life of one adult is ethically more valuable than the life of 100 fetuses

Moron...compare ONLY yourself to an animal.

I have no sympathy.

AND HOWCOME THIS ISN'T PINNED????

Nice buzz-words (Right & religious)

U fail.

Nothing "shill" about that post.

The whole premise of the religious right is to politicize religion and use the pulpit for programmed activism. Combining religion and politics always leads to abuse and evil.

I'm not sure that I'd agree that the individual Christians who are in the religious right are "evil". I think that most of them are tools, being programmed from the pulpit and exploited for political and other agendas.

Has nothing to do with believing Jesus Christ is eaxactly who He said He is

nothing at all to do with that...

I do not condone the murder of anyone, even vile murderous late term murder "doctors". That having been said, I'm not losing any sleep over this one. A career murder got justice the old fashion way. Someon who just couldn't take it any more put an end to him.

It's an abomination that this baby killer had to get whacked in the "church" he attended. Any place that claims to worship God and allows someone like that to remain a member for years on end is piling up God's judgement on themselves.

There are no religious right, or left. there is just religion and then there are those who follow blindly, and those you do not.

Most Christians and atheists serve the same master of matter.

Again, the main question that must be asked is in the protection of life and how to understand it.

This proceeds everything - including privacy.

Donkey's (and other animals) do not get privacy...think!@

Many years ago I helped my sister who was then 16 (and I was 20) get a "legal" abortion in CA. Team of 3 psychiatrists "certified" it would endanger her "mental health" to carry the pregnancy to term and presto- the doors opened and 15 minutes later with a uterine vac she was no longer preggers.

The fee for this "legal" abortion was then 4500 for the three shrinks and 1500 for the abortion itself. Total $6000.

Six months later she was pregnant AGAIN! (Different boyfriend - "the rubber broke" was the story.) I paid for a 2nd legal (in CA) abortion.

By the time she was 22 she had a complete breakdown and shattered into a multiple personality. It's taken over 20 years of therapy to reintegrate her multiple personalities. Later when I was in Med School and taking abnormal psych classes, I learned there was often a correlation between multiple personality disorder (among women) and those who'd undergone multiple abortions! It's not in the "glossy brochures" that family planning clinics so generous distribute, but the correlation is very real. So is a myriad of other types of mental illness. For me, I felt real guilt about helping her to terminate these pregnancies for many years. It took a long time in therapy for me to stop feeling guilt about it, and have the courage to take to to God and ask for forgiveness for what I had done what I was younger, thought it was "just a group of cells" and was scared to death that my folks would have kicked her out on the streets and I could not support her while I was going to college - although I would have dropped out and tried to do so, somehow.

By the time I was 45 I finally felt as though I'd forgiven myself and accepted the forgiveness that God offers all of us.

Today when I see women patients who are developing unexplained mental illness, I often find in taking their histories, that there are at least a single and often multiple abortions in their past medical history. It takes a toll on the human mind and soul to do such a thing and the toll is not something that most women even have a passing awareness of before they go under the knife to terminate a pregnancy. If my own daughter were pregnant today I would move heaven, earth and hell to avoid her having an abortion - because of the extremely high chance of severe depression all the way up to full blown psychosis developing over the next 20 years in those women who do have abortions. Not all do, but statistically enough that it almost an "expected" side effect of an abortion today, but one that women are almost NEVER told about by their abortion docs.

BTW: the suicide rate for women who've had abortions is something like 14 times higher (per 100k of population) than it is for those who have not had an abortion. Figure it out. This is NOT good for anyone! Maybe rare exceptions in cases of rape or incest, but across the board this is an unhealthy and risky thing for women to consider.

I am moved by your post and I'm so sorry to hear of went your your younger sister experienced.

I guess Tiller should not have gone to Church. He probably figured in church God would protect his baby killing ass but noo.

That is just about what I was thinking 625292, it is yet another sign of our backslidden useless church/religious system.

I too am sorry to hear about your years of hurt, for you and your sister. I had two abortions when very young. How I reget that so much. There is a book called 'And They Still Weep' published by the British Abortion Syndrome, or the links to the book. I recommend people who are still struggling with coming to terms after an abortion, or who feel there is an inner rage or void within. In this book are testimonies of a woman's life spiralling out of control, outward behaviours, relationships and general well being are so markedly affected. Also look up Rachel's Vineyard it offers healing seminars for women, retreats to have questions answered to heal finally. I cried reading the book, I finally realised where the hurt began. It is also very common for woment who chose abortion to have had incest and rape, or both, especially around 18-21 years.

I would never judge the doctor, I only praise that a few more children may now live as this tragedy may help reverse a decision.

Key your child, give them the chance to see the most wonderful eyes in their world when they are born, yours.

Keep your child I meant to say.