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How is the drink cart supposed to get down the aisle? This is ridonkulous!
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so many rude people. what if its a funeral or family reunion he is going to. he has no choice and he knows he will be ridiculed by rude people.
and he is obviously chatting with the guy next to him, their heads are turned in each others direction like they are chatting, maybe even flying together.

nobody is perfect and we all have our vices, most of us can hide them and not be ridiculed out in public, but we should have compassion for the ones who cant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4959545


Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
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I am a flight attendant and here's the issue in a nutshell. First of all, we all know that fuel prices have been through the roof for some time now, and airplanes take on the amount of fuel need for the distance they will travel and the weight they will carry. They are in the business of transporting people and luggage by the pound. Each seat has an average weight assigned to it, that weight being 180 lbs (on my airline). This amount also includes that 80 lbs steamer trunk you just stuffed in the overhead bin. If weight is grossly underestimated there can be all kinds of reprocussions including having to divert to take on more fuel or in a rare situation problems with airworthiness.
Basically what it means is that in the long run everyone ends up paying for HIS extra weight in their ticket price, their time, and their safety. Believe it or not, most airline actually do research on the average size of a passenger to come up with the size (width) of the seat.
Moving on to safety. What's shown in the picture is not acceptable per faa regulations. He has to be able to put the aisle armrest down for takeoff and landing for obvious reasons. He also cannot be sitting on or otherwise hindering any portion of the seatbelt of his seatmate. End of story.
My father was a large man, 6'5" & 260lbs, so I understand the delicacy of the situation, but the nuts and bolts of this argument is safety, 'plane' and simple. He needed to purchase a 2nd seat if the flt was full, and the agent @ the gate should have taken car of the issue before he boarded to avoid embarrassment. But that man also had to know he wasn't going to fit and may have been intentionally playing the odds that no one wanted to confront him so he didn't have to pay for another seat. Which reminds me: if you are a passenger of size and you run into this problem on a full flight thinking 'I'm in my seat no one can do anything about it now' you are wrong. You will be the person removed. So buy the extra seat (chich is usually only $50 anyway) as your insurance policy.
 Quoting: no one 35


The guy in the picture is an extreme example. You say the average seat is designed for s 180 pounder. Say a 220 pound man is in his seat. It's tight, but no where tight enough to need a second seat. And you have one of the jerks from this forum next to him, squirming and complaining because he thinks that the 220 pounder takes up to much room?
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so many rude people. what if its a funeral or family reunion he is going to. he has no choice and he knows he will be ridiculed by rude people.
and he is obviously chatting with the guy next to him, their heads are turned in each others direction like they are chatting, maybe even flying together.

nobody is perfect and we all have our vices, most of us can hide them and not be ridiculed out in public, but we should have compassion for the ones who cant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4959545


Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
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The simple fact of the matter is he should never have been allowed on the plane like that. If he had bought two seats fine. However, having him perched like that was an unacceptable hazard for all on board.
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guys really ????? that is a bad photo shop . i fly all the time and im 5ft 9 and my head is about ear level with the back of the seat when sitting down . the top of the seat is in his lower back area when sitting so hes 1 about 7ft 10 or 2 its a photo shop ....I go for 2
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The doctors office that I go to now has refurnished their waiting rooms.The chairs are now bigger than a regular chair but not quiet as big as a loveseat.Other sections just have a long couch like seating area .Its unreal how many people you see that will no longer fit comfortably in a single chair.Many of the health workers are very overweight too.
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You should have to pay for 2 seats if you are that fat.
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guys really ????? that is a bad photo shop . i fly all the time and im 5ft 9 and my head is about ear level with the back of the seat when sitting down . the top of the seat is in his lower back area when sitting so hes 1 about 7ft 10 or 2 its a photo shop ....I go for 2
 Quoting: preist943


I'd say you are wrong with both.

He is either standing up, or is sitting with his fat arse on the arm rest.
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I feel sorry for him. He must have felt very uncomfortable and humiliated.

I am a normal sized person and it would be unfair to have to sit next to this guy because it would make you very uncomfortable. But on the other hand, he is a human being that deserves dignity.
 Quoting: BlondeQT


Dignified people would buy TWO seats so as not to impose on anyone else. I was stuck sitting next to an obese passenger spilling into MY seat that I paid for and that is wrong!
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I doubt if the plane was able to even take off.

Perhaps it just "taxied" to its destination.


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Fly business, or first class. The only way to fly.
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so many rude people. what if its a funeral or family reunion he is going to. he has no choice and he knows he will be ridiculed by rude people.
and he is obviously chatting with the guy next to him, their heads are turned in each others direction like they are chatting, maybe even flying together.

nobody is perfect and we all have our vices, most of us can hide them and not be ridiculed out in public, but we should have compassion for the ones who cant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4959545


Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


When YOUR vice imposes on me I have every right to get upset. Fat asses should be required to buy two seats and if they are so rude and low class that they don't we have every right to ridicule them.
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so many rude people. what if its a funeral or family reunion he is going to. he has no choice and he knows he will be ridiculed by rude people.
and he is obviously chatting with the guy next to him, their heads are turned in each others direction like they are chatting, maybe even flying together.

nobody is perfect and we all have our vices, most of us can hide them and not be ridiculed out in public, but we should have compassion for the ones who cant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4959545


Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


When YOUR vice imposes on me I have every right to get upset. Fat asses should be required to buy two seats and if they are so rude and low class that they don't we have every right to ridicule them.
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No, you don't.
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Obese Air Passenger in Economy Seat Has Picture Taken
Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Telegraph UK: An image of an obese passenger squeezed into an economy airline seat has reopened a debate about how airlines deal with growing numbers of oversized passengers.

The picture, posted on an aviation blog, was reportedly taken by a flight attendant to illustrate to airline managers the difficulty of dealing with passengers who cannot fit into seats.

It is unclear if the man was aware his picture was being taken or whether the flight, on US carrier American Airlines, took off with the passenger spilling out of his seat.

Airlines already offer extended seatbelts to larger passengers to comply with safety rules but a number of carriers now insist obese customers buy an extra seat.

Read more
[link to www.momlogic.com]
 Quoting: LeoJuly24


i'm thinking bullshit on that photo on several counts. it isn't photoshopped, but it could be an image of him getting up from his seat, or getting into it. there is NO WAY that is how he would have been allowed to actually fly. he cant put his belt on, and he's blocking the aisle.

this whole thing is bullshit.

i'm calling bullshit on the 'flight attendant taking it' thing too.

fucking Telegraph again!

why is it always the BRIT papers coming up with this vomit inducing stuff they THINK is 'news'?
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Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Telegraph UK: An image of an obese passenger squeezed into an economy airline seat has reopened a debate about how airlines deal with growing numbers of oversized passengers.
 Quoting: LeoJuly24


What a fat prick. I mean theres no way you could safely fly like that.
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so many rude people. what if its a funeral or family reunion he is going to. he has no choice and he knows he will be ridiculed by rude people.
and he is obviously chatting with the guy next to him, their heads are turned in each others direction like they are chatting, maybe even flying together.

nobody is perfect and we all have our vices, most of us can hide them and not be ridiculed out in public, but we should have compassion for the ones who cant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4959545


Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


When YOUR vice imposes on me I have every right to get upset. Fat asses should be required to buy two seats and if they are so rude and low class that they don't we have every right to ridicule them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2340809


No, you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


Yes I do. Because the "self-absorbed jerk" is the one spilling his fat into MY seat.
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Agreed. People in our society have become such self-absorbed jerks. The way they treat each other is sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


When YOUR vice imposes on me I have every right to get upset. Fat asses should be required to buy two seats and if they are so rude and low class that they don't we have every right to ridicule them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2340809


No, you don't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5663338


Yes I do. Because the "self-absorbed jerk" is the one spilling his fat into MY seat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2340809


You may get your head slammed when you ridicule the wrong person. You need to mind your manners, creep.
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He isn't even sitting IN the chair but ON the armrest. Those Boeing armrests are fixed in place. That's why the guy appears to be tall when in fact, he isn't.
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Head slammed? Sounds like you're one of those rude self-centered fat asses.
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Head slammed? Sounds like you're one of those rude self-centered fat asses.
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No, I'm not. But I have little patience for worthless little creeps such as you.
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Head slammed? Sounds like you're one of those rude self-centered fat asses.
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No, I'm not. But I have little patience for worthless little creeps such as you.
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Sounds to me that YOU are the little creep. jmho
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Head slammed? Sounds like you're one of those rude self-centered fat asses.
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No, I'm not. But I have little patience for worthless little creeps such as you.
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How many twinkies have you had today? ........... Be honest.
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Head slammed? Sounds like you're one of those rude self-centered fat asses.
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No, I'm not. But I have little patience for worthless little creeps such as you.
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How many twinkies have you had today? ........... Be honest.
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I feel sorry for him. He must have felt very uncomfortable and humiliated.

I am a normal sized person and it would be unfair to have to sit next to this guy because it would make you very uncomfortable. But on the other hand, he is a human being that deserves dignity.
 Quoting: BlondeQT


Kind response.
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I am a flight attendant and here's the issue in a nutshell. First of all, we all know that fuel prices have been through the roof for some time now, and airplanes take on the amount of fuel need for the distance they will travel and the weight they will carry. They are in the business of transporting people and luggage by the pound. Each seat has an average weight assigned to it, that weight being 180 lbs (on my airline). This amount also includes that 80 lbs steamer trunk you just stuffed in the overhead bin. If weight is grossly underestimated there can be all kinds of reprocussions including having to divert to take on more fuel or in a rare situation problems with airworthiness.
Basically what it means is that in the long run everyone ends up paying for HIS extra weight in their ticket price, their time, and their safety. Believe it or not, most airline actually do research on the average size of a passenger to come up with the size (width) of the seat.
Moving on to safety. What's shown in the picture is not acceptable per faa regulations. He has to be able to put the aisle armrest down for takeoff and landing for obvious reasons. He also cannot be sitting on or otherwise hindering any portion of the seatbelt of his seatmate. End of story.
My father was a large man, 6'5" & 260lbs, so I understand the delicacy of the situation, but the nuts and bolts of this argument is safety, 'plane' and simple. He needed to purchase a 2nd seat if the flt was full, and the agent @ the gate should have taken car of the issue before he boarded to avoid embarrassment. But that man also had to know he wasn't going to fit and may have been intentionally playing the odds that no one wanted to confront him so he didn't have to pay for another seat. Which reminds me: if you are a passenger of size and you run into this problem on a full flight thinking 'I'm in my seat no one can do anything about it now' you are wrong. You will be the person removed. So buy the extra seat (chich is usually only $50 anyway) as your insurance policy.
 Quoting: no one 35


Finally, a sensible response. If someone is so sensitive about their weight that they are willing to endanger the safety of everyone else on the plane, then yes they are most certainly in the wrong. I see no reason why people beyond a certain weight shouldn't have to buy an extra seat. If people can't handle that, then they shouldn't fly.
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Not only Obese... he's frickin huge!
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TAX THE TALL!!!!!
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and obese
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4392932


This guy should sign the Kyoto protocol to reduce his methanol and carbon emissions !!
He is a huge fat-ass indeed !!

cruise
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I feel sorry for him. He must have felt very uncomfortable and humiliated.

I am a normal sized person and it would be unfair to have to sit next to this guy because it would make you very uncomfortable. But on the other hand, he is a human being that deserves dignity.
 Quoting: BlondeQT


I agree!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444651


5* comment..... when will mankind STOP being so cruel??

Try love and compassion.....

No one here knows if that man has a medical condition or not.
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I feel sorry for him. He must have felt very uncomfortable and humiliated.

I am a normal sized person and it would be unfair to have to sit next to this guy because it would make you very uncomfortable. But on the other hand, he is a human being that deserves dignity.
 Quoting: BlondeQT


I agree!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1444651


5* comment..... when will mankind STOP being so cruel??

Try love and compassion.....

No one here knows if that man has a medical condition or not.
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+1000
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Instead of selling "seats", they should sell "spaces".

The word "seat" implies a place for one person to sit, big or small. A "space" would be x inches of width.

This would protect them from lawsuits and discrimination claims.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


That is actually a good idea. These modern planes are such that the armrests can be folded up turning three seats into what is essentially a sofa.

Calling them 'spaces' over seats would take the sting out of the notion of buying extra space over buying an extra seat.
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