DNA confirms Sumerian story of Creation

because I love when science and history mesh.

Interesting!

I think I've seen this before,

Far Out!

This reminds me of the ending of Battlestar Galactica. But interesting none the less!!

mankind:

Biological material decays too fast

Measurements of the mutation rate of mitochondrial DNA recently forced researchers to revise the age of “mitochondrial Eve” from a theorized 200,000 years down to possibly as low as 6,000 years. DNA experts insist that DNA cannot exist in natural environments longer than 10,000 years, yet intact strands of DNA appear to have been recovered from fossils allegedly much older.

“For example, researchers have calculated that "mitochondrial Eve" the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. Using the new clock, she would be a mere 6000 years old.”
(Gibbons, Ann, “Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock”, Science, Vol 279, No. 5347, Jan 1998, pp. 28 & 29)
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Claim:
The Sumer tablets are the oldest text.

Reply:
Understand how textual dating is done: the physical dating of the text does not date the original text, which is dated by events and confirmed with the sciences.

"The oldest known tablets written in stone," means little, as original biblical texts were copied to parchment repeatedly and the originals destroyed as they were used to the point of being worn out and useless. But by this time there were thousands of copies so originals were unimportant. Older scripture has no validity over the majority text in agreement: Majority coming from different parts of the world, all in agreement. This is what is found with the Textus Receptus Greek New Testament and Hebrew Masoretic Old Testament, King James Version manuscripts. Oldest known does not mean more credible or reliable in textual criticism, just means the originals were destroyed, lost or possibly being kept from us.

But that's not all, in the text are events and figures. The pagan Sumer tablets do not tell of real events, while the books of the Bible are confirmed repeatedly with HISTORY and SCIENCE.

mankind:

Biological material decays too fast

Measurements of the mutation rate of mitochondrial DNA recently forced researchers to revise the age of “mitochondrial Eve” from a theorized 200,000 years down to possibly as low as 6,000 years. DNA experts insist that DNA cannot exist in natural environments longer than 10,000 years, yet intact strands of DNA appear to have been recovered from fossils allegedly much older.

“For example, researchers have calculated that "mitochondrial Eve" the woman whose mtDNA was ancestral to that in all living people lived 100,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. Using the new clock, she would be a mere 6000 years old.”
(Gibbons, Ann, “Calibrating the Mitochondrial Clock”, Science, Vol 279, No. 5347, Jan 1998, pp. 28 & 29)
[link to www.icr.org]
[link to creation.com]


Do you have research you can reference that is more up-to-date to show that mitochondrial Eve is only 6000 years old? The above article was published in 1998. So much has been learned since then in terms of Mtdna and heridity. For instance, the Genographic Project of the National Geographic Society has gone all over the world getting samples mtdna and publishing papers about their anthropological discoveries. (see their website). The scientists on that project are projecting dates and ancestry back to 50,000 bc and older.

OP, habve you watched the Forth Kind?

They have come to a conclusion that all bipedals on this earth are somehow related and their research will be forced to reach this conclusion.

We know a great deal about the earliest known (Sumerian) civilization partly because they were able to both read and write and left surviving written (pictographic) records of their culture in stone or clay.

The rest of the world around them did not know how to read or write, or if they did, they left no surviving artifacts or records of those abilities.

So when the Sumerians finally got around to writing down a creation story, who is to say they were the originators of that story? Just because they were one of the earliest civilizations and were able to read and write?

Whose to say the Sumerians didn't in fact receive the creation story second hand or at several removes through oral transmission of accounts given by peoples who couldn't read or write, complete with distortions and exaggerations?

"Scientists" assume man came from apes.

Perhaps apes came from another time when "Man" was able to mate with something more apelike that is now (perhaps) extinct.

I'll say it again, you MUST use the bible to discern if the science is legit.

Each to his own... :)

Babylon and the Bible

Two hundred years ago, scholars doubted whether Babylon ever existed, and the only record could be found in the Bible. Higher critics used the story of Babylon, and what they called its "non-historic kings", to dismiss Scripture. However in 1898, Babylon was suddenly discovered and excavations started.

We know today that it was one of the first cities in the (post-flood) world. Nimrod was the great-grandson of Noah (Genesis 10:10,11). Archaeologists have found his name on many inscriptions and tablets, while a massive head of Nimrod has been excavated near Calah on the Tigris River.

Nimrod was a very significant man in ancient times, the grandson of Ham and great-grandson of Noah. Nimrod started his kingdom at Babylon (Gen. 10:10). Babylon later reached its zenith under Nebuchadnezzar (sixth century BC).
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people who believe in the babylon/sumer/annunaki theory are the same as the people who believe in intelligent design, actually it is the same just replace god with annunaki. the believers of this theory obviously have a theory to support and gather evidence for it, rather than observe the world look at the evidence then make a theory.

this is pure

humans are the master race, everything else is disinformation

The Dates and time spans that these antichrist scientist always use, is pure hog wash in my humble opinion !


You would think they made a religion out of their need to ignore, and in fact put down the The BIBLE. Most of the Stars you see at night have long since stopped giving off their light. Just like these Science Faither's have..

Good stuff, but the problem I have is why didn't they use any other important symbols that are just as important as the DNA itself?

Why is there no archaic symbols for microscope, cells etc...

Turn it around, you must use science to determine the validity of the Bible. But, sometimes it does, and that's cool.

I have always had trouble with the notion that all of mankind descended from Adam and Eve. You would then need to acknodledge the fact that in order for the population to exponentially grow, the offspring had to copulate with each other..which totally goes against any moral principle in the bible anyway.

It seems to make more sense that DNA manipulation would be responsible for the exponential growth in our population.

agree...or disagree?

not the op here, but yes I saw it, great 'movie'
..and spot on.

the vedic texts are older. the sumerian heiroglyphs are 'flame letters.' they represent different parts of the tree of life or dna as it spins around its axis. the syntax is so advanced that it is the basis for artificial intelligence.

humans were designed by aeons, those who came from source. their intention was for a universal body that developed out from a garden of beauty and harmony and beauty.

the body was instinctual and beautiful. there was no pain nor sorrow in the earliest times. they were immortal and androgynous. there was no death, disease or need for food. the climate was perfect.

at a certain point, another creator race took dna from that race of humans and produced clones, or 'golem', i believe the bible calls them, which have no soul = a blank slate, in order to have a slave race.

the 'god' enki slipped angelic - which is source - dna into the clones. this allowed humans to procreate and multiply, which they did at an alarming rate. they were no longer compliant. they could tell 'good' from 'evil' and they became 'rebellious.'

the uncloned humans, the adam kardmons, rescued the adam2 race. by that time, the 'gods' had created many temple compounds, landing pads and monolithic structures.

they knew a flood was coming, so they decided to just leave and call it a good time gone awry. but creator had other ideas. the gods 'fell' or were quarantined along with humans, who survived through noah and other remnants scattered throughout the globe. after the flood all, adam kardmons, adam2 and the gods lost their immortality and began the cycle of reincarnation.

the cataclysms and flooding occured about 26k yrs ago. after that, there was an ice age that only started receding about 12-13k yrs. ago. the popuation of 'men of renown' had dwindled down to a few, who went underground. some humans went underground, too. the pre-flood days had a great variety of humanoids and other 'creatures,' like gnomes and fairies, etc.

after the now mortal 'gods' and both adamic races interbred, there was a select group of those with more of the 'god' gene who kept the secret of science, the dark magicians, to themselves, who decided once again, to mess with the dna of man. they added reptilian dna to the mix, which caused man to have a nervous system and brain stem that could be controlled by frequencies and psychological torture.

many have tried to warn. they have tried to show what this means. the flail, in egypt, that the pharoh holds is a clue. the 'snake' an the kundalini. yoga was developed for the express purpose of breaking the grip the matrix has on us from our nervous system. sometimes i wonder if the brain was a byproduct - after all, it is split, not whole, and it is just full of grey matter. the egyptians had no traces of brain in their mummies. trepination was an obsession with certain mystics... there are cases of people who lived fully functional lives, who upon autopsy after death, it was discovered had encephalitis - water instead of brain. one was a cambridge mathematician. yoga is literally translated as 'yoke.'

the bible is the book of the sect of beings who still consider themselves as gods.

all writings are the creation of the bloodline of the usurper gods. if you follow the bible, which does contain many, many profound and dense truths, to the letter, you are a slave. no better than the cloned adam2. worse, you've denied your higher faculties in order to be 'obedient.' it was, after all, more comfortable. no nervous tics and pain from the system, which is an internal punishing program.

they all began introducing writings about 7 - 6k years ago. the 'good' ones taught humans how to write in different places, which is why the sumerian and vedic texts tell the same stories, except from the human vantage point - which i find the most interesting of the accounts. the 'bad' ones also used flame letters and created their own book, which was all about enslaving you. it's called hebrew and the book is the bible.

I like the parallel between the entwined snakes and the double helix. But have you ever seen snakes getting it on? I've seen them wrap around each other like that. I'm not sure what that has to do with medicine though...

this is a huge load of bullshit, this is a ll imaginative speculation based on ancient myths.

If any area of modern science or the scientific method confirmed something like creation, then I am convinced now more than ever before that the Sumerian creation story is a lie.

divided nucleic acid

So which branch of science confirmed the creation only account of all things. BTW how would that account for epigenetics and it overwhelming evidence of what past science says about DNA/RNA/Membranes bein totally, dead, wrong.


You name it and we'll discus it.

Last Edited by Enlilson on 02/06/2010 09:33 PM

Discern, who...... you?


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If it expects or demands worship, it is not divine!!

You are but a creature. Your creator deserves worship more than your parents deserve respect.