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Saturn - WHAT IS IT??? astrology, ancient history, secret society, astro-physics,

 
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Saturn - WHAT IS IT??? astrology, ancient history, secret society, astro-physics,
why did the ancients worship it?

is it a "machine" or a being?

how does is relate to the moon?

why is it the black sun?

what is it its relationship with the star in the center of the solar system?

if we are inhabitants of earth, what are the strategies one can take to HARMONIOUSLY interact with saturn?
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Saturn was once THE sun in this solar system, what i mean by that is Saturn used to produce EM Radiation (like Sol does now) but by the process of cosmic alchemy Saturn now produces gravitational waves. Both EM radiation "waves" and GR radiation "waves" need to "cross" to "create" space time, Earth has been the planet of the crossing for awhile now.

Yes, Saturn is very much like a complex machine, but you need to understand how consciousness is created and maintained. The thought police dont like me talking about that though.

One more thing, you should ask Saturn herself.

Saturn IS the time keeper in this solar system, what i mean by that is Saturn is like a "recorder" and Sol is like the record player.

Saturn is very connected to the black/white hole at the center of this universe, my current understanding is Saturn is a fractal of the black half of the black/white hole in Sag, while Sol is a fractal of the white half of the black/white hole...think quantum spooky action at a distance, whatever happens in the black/white hole in Sag will fractal "down" and "up" to Saturn and Sol.

Greedy humans who think they're the heirs to this planet have hid our real history from us in hopes that we wouldn't find out who our real parents are, look into the constellation Cygnus and Eta Carina.

Saturn is not evil per se, but some humans (and other consciousness that worship Saturn are...

Sorry for typos, typing on phone.

Btw OP, be careful, last time i posted about Saturn i got gang stalked and harassed for weeks. Fucking dumb humans just dont understand there are consciousness' "out there" WAAAY more advanced than them watching.
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The Ancients Personified the planets as gods.

That means they associated them with their gods.


This all started in Ancient Mesopotamia and to personify a planet as a god is called Astrolatry or Astro-theology.


For example

The Sumerian Anunna gods all had their own planet.


Anu was Saturn, and Enlil was Jupiter while Enki was Neptune.


These associations did change over the ages.


Because before Anu was Saturn it was his father Anshar, and Jupiter was his wife Kishar.



The Romans later picked up this habbit of calling the Gods by their Planetary names.

But the Romans chose new names for the Gods.


Anu or El to the Romans was Saturn but to the Greeks he was Cronus.

He was the Father of Enlil and Enki.


But their Roman names were Jupiter and Neptune.

And their Greek names were Zeus and Poseidon.


Another example is Inanna / Isis / Ishtar.

She was personified as Venus, the Goddess Aphrodite.
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PURPLE DAWN THEORY.


Purple Dawn states that earth and mars were locked in a polar orbit with saturn like we were skewerd on a stick. Saturn was once a Brown Dwarf star. Earth and mars were inside a plasma sphere that radiated out of Saturn.
From earth perspective the sky looked PURPLE . from outer space you could not see earth and mars cuz we were inside the Brown Dwarf of Saturn. They are not hot like our current sun. In searching for exolife they are likely to on planets inside a Brown Dwarf.

With our sun acting screwy the possibility of earth breaking orbit with sun and rejoing Saturn remains. Mystery solved
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Purp and yellow

and there is usually blue in there as well.

When you see it now you will know.

PS...all the above posters are SPOT ON.
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is it a "machine" or a being?

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It's a Time machine.
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It's ancient tech AI.

Wake up. You're plugged into it right now.
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Re: Saturn - WHAT IS IT??? astrology, ancient history, secret society, astro-physics,
is it a "machine" or a being?

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It's a Time machine.
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is it a "machine" or a being?

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It's a Time machine.
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Well you don't have to worship it like ancients did in order to understand the simplicity of it. Saturn is second massive planet in solar system, and because of its ring system it has the most stable orbital process. Process is a function of time - this is why Saturn is a master of time, because it has physically mastered it.
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A good question is what do the rings have to do with the situation and how did they get there.
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To worship it would be to master "time" and have a "plan" effectively work over multiple ages or generations.

To actually use it would be to lead your collective into a harmonious time.

Pay attention to the difference or pay another way!
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A good question is what do the rings have to do with the situation and how did they get there.
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Saturn rings are formed this way obviously because of specific form of gravity, and since not much is known about the real source of gravity - we could just conclude it so to fulfill the principle of diversity of forms in the universe.
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To worship it would be to master "time" and have a "plan" effectively work over multiple ages or generations.

To actually use it would be to lead your collective into a harmonious time.

Pay attention to the difference or pay another way!
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The older you become, the more you know. The more you know, the more you know right. This is a gift of time - the experience and true knowledge.
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A gas planet with interesting weather patterns and pretty rings? It looks really cool.
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thank you for all the responses...


1) why is saturn worship tied to human sacrifice, particularly an only child? certainly this ties into the mythology of eating his children.....which begat what? how did this narrative come about?

2) saturn female??? please expand...

3) sun - saturn connection: like opposite side of same coin (duality-ish)? how does this play into siruis a, b, c and our sun's relationship with that?

4) saturn worship seems to also connect directly to sex cult as well....whats this connection?

5) what about the pheoncians? the more i learn about them, the more confusing it gets and they are were a major saturn/el/baal culture....btw they were the purple people as well



i am currently reading my children a wrinkle in time and it is quite obviously a saturn metaphor. it deals with a tesseract, time travel/manipulation, dark presence, total conformity (order), and the list goes on. everywhere i look, saturn keeps coming up.

i am curious but hesitant to proceed.
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that hexagon-shaped storm on Saturn is strange.
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Yes, Saturn is very much like a complex machine, but you need to understand how consciousness is created and maintained. The thought police dont like me talking about that though.
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when you say "like a complex machine" do you mean that it is actually something else, but it has a machine-like effect on our physical world?

the rings, hexagon/cube, eye - they are mechanism of something else, right? what are they mechanisms of? saturn has a lot of undesirable qualities (jealous, controlling, cannibalism, etc)...is this due to bad press, misunderstanding, or should it be approached with the same decorum as walking through a viper pit?
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thank you for all the responses...


1) why is saturn worship tied to human sacrifice, particularly an only child? certainly this ties into the mythology of eating his children.....which begat what? how did this narrative come about?

No good deed goes unpunished

When very wicked deeds are done here, very "positive" energy is received there. See below

A child's innocence shines like a beaming light. To take a child's life is one, but they also sodomise young children through their root Chakra and obtain the same results.

2) saturn female??? please expand...

Saturn is neither male NOR female. It is androgynous in the strictest sense having qualities of both.
Saturn's actions in this realm take on a feminine aspect to them because it is the reflection of the two pillars.
Mercy and Severity.
Sex and Destruction.
Life and Death

Example: The first atomic test was done in the Bikini Atolls. A woman was even pictured as the personification of that event.

Now, what do women wear? Bikini's

This is just one.

Red hair is a symbol for these. The bitch, the whore, the harlot...they all represent the destructive and creative aspect of Saturn. Red hair is the "mark of Cain" it is the personified Wisdom. The owl, the Shekinah Glory, the Holy Spirit...feminine.

In movies this can also be a red or auburn haired woman who's name is Sophia...or any dirivative.

Da Vinci Code: Sophie
"Golden" Girls: Sophia
Carnevale: Sophie

The Golden Age of Saturn

The Lord of the "Rings"

When you we'd your bride, you place on her "Saturn finger" the golden ring of Saturn.

In the 90's, what was the most popular woman's fragrance?

Elizabeth Arden's Sunflowers

A symbol for the black sun or Saturn


Elsie the cow for Borden Cheese. It's El...see? And Elsie is a female Cow...and the cow is who? Baal or Molech.

3) sun - saturn connection: like opposite side of same coin (duality-ish)? how does this play into siruis a, b, c and our sun's relationship with that?

Yes. The Tree of Life has a mirror counterpart. The Quibloth. When things are in chaos here, or negative energy, negative polarity energy, like for real. Electrical Current...it creates positive polarity or positively charged energy "There."

There as in that realm, the realm of the fallen. No biblical attachment necessary to understand that concept.

As Above, So Below is a "Law." It is a declarative statement of fact, not a catchphrase. What is generated here is also generated there, but it is the mirror image, just like you see "aasb" depicted in imagery.

4) saturn worship seems to also connect directly to sex cult as well....whats this connection?

Pretty well addressed already.

5) what about the pheoncians? the more i learn about them, the more confusing it gets and they are were a major saturn/el/baal culture....btw they were the purple people as well

The ancient Phoenician peopke became the Israelis and they were "God's" chosen people. The Jews. The people of the Old Testement and their God was El...their God was and still is...Saturn.



i am currently reading my children a wrinkle in time and it is quite obviously a saturn metaphor. it deals with a tesseract, time travel/manipulation, dark presence, total conformity (order), and the list goes on. everywhere i look, saturn keeps coming up.

i am curious but hesitant to proceed.
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Yes, Saturn is very much like a complex machine, but you need to understand how consciousness is created and maintained. The thought police dont like me talking about that though.
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when you say "like a complex machine" do you mean that it is actually something else, but it has a machine-like effect on our physical world?

the rings, hexagon/cube, eye - they are mechanism of something else, right? what are they mechanisms of? saturn has a lot of undesirable qualities (jealous, controlling, cannibalism, etc)...is this due to bad press, misunderstanding, or should it be approached with the same decorum as walking through a viper pit?
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This is due to a retrograde Saturn. damned
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This is due to a retrograde Saturn. damned


please explain!
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i will study this for later thankz
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PURPLE DAWN THEORY.


Purple Dawn states that earth and mars were locked in a polar orbit with saturn like we were skewerd on a stick. Saturn was once a Brown Dwarf star. Earth and mars were inside a plasma sphere that radiated out of Saturn.
From earth perspective the sky looked PURPLE . from outer space you could not see earth and mars cuz we were inside the Brown Dwarf of Saturn. They are not hot like our current sun. In searching for exolife they are likely to on planets inside a Brown Dwarf.

With our sun acting screwy the possibility of earth breaking orbit with sun and rejoing Saturn remains. Mystery solved
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Read through some of the Purple Dawn. Searched around trying to find out where they found the purple atmosphere. Looks like they were the 1st to mention it, so other sites led back to them. They did mention the Electric Sky, Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts does not mention a purple haze or atmosphere, more like dusty. Depending on the type of gas, as to the color of plasma. Right now I forget which gas would give plasma a purplish color, but an easy search.

Thunderbolts Project has a few short videos proving their interesting theory. This video does not go in depth like the short videos, but is easier to watch, & not so much repetition of material. It does show their theory of Saturn as Sun (Sol), how Venus was "birthed", & how close Mars was, before this set was pulled into orbiting the Sun. The mythology, statues, ring formation, the etching of Mars surface, etc. 1 hr 18 min. I watched quite a few of their videos, and there are 2 more that follow this video. They are approx the same length as this one.
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This is due to a retrograde Saturn. damned
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please explain!


It is explained well in Astrology.
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The Canaanites called him El/Saturn and sacrificed children to him, he was the god of the Patriarchs. The god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Later in the form of a burning bush, Moses is told by the God El, i appeared to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as El, but did not reveal my name yahweh to them.

The Greeks called him Cronus and sacrificed children to him.

The Romans called him Saturn and sacrificed children to him.

He is the old bearded one, the father of all, who lives on a mountain in a tent like structure with a throne that has cherubin, the bull, the horned God.
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Really interesting thread and posts!
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According to The Oxford Companion to World Mythology, It seems almost certain that the God of the ____ evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the god of_____.

Fill in the blanks...
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humans make a lot of things from the simplest observations

it's a PLANET
that's ALL
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It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites. Cronus then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only begotten son, whom they on this account called Iedud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians; and when very great dangers from war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.

The account also relates that Thoth:

... also devised for Cronus as insignia of royalty four eyes in front and behind ... but two of them quietly closed, and upon his shoulders four wings, two as spread for flying, and two as folded. And the symbol meant that Cronus could see when asleep, and sleep while waking: and similarly in the case of the wings, that he flew while at rest, and was at rest when flying. But to each of the other gods he gave two wings upon the shoulders, as meaning that they accompanied Cronus in his flight. And to Cronus himself again he gave two wings upon his head, one representing the all-ruling mind, and one sensation.

This is the form under which Ēl/Cronus appears on coins from Byblos from the reign of Antiochus IV (175–164 BCE) four spread wings and two folded wings, leaning on a staff. Such images continued to appear on coins until after the time of Augustus.
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It should say EL/Cronus in the above quote^^





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