Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." | |
Poster 8398 User ID: 1509896 United States 09/08/2011 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." Cause and Effect Quoting: Sickscent The law of cause and effect always works. When anything goes wrong with you or with the world, your are or humanity in general is responsible, not God. ... God’s doing God’s part is what Creation or the outworking of cosmic law means. Therefore, instead of asking God to fulfil God’s part, attain knowledge of cosmic law so that you can harmoniously work with God to fulfil your desire. Anything that is wrong with you is of your own making; therefore, gain knowledge of the cause and of cosmic law. … … people who ask God for fulfilment of their desires forget that material things are created only through two-way action. Material things are not created by rubbing an Aladdin lamp or through wishful thinking. They are created through balanced action and reaction. (Walter and Lao Russell, Home Study Course in Cosmic Consciousness, Unit 7, Lesson 28) [link to www.walter-russell.org] The whole universe (and everything in it)is duality , this means that everything interacts, reacts and fluctuates - to various degrees - between all the opposing and conditional polarities. This truth alone implies that connection, peace, harmony and stability can only ever exist for the brief moments of time (the neutralising balance and harmony of compromise), but it can never long-term nor universal, especially at the macro organic level (for example as in humans)..we can see this reality everyday in our own family relationships, in our school classrooms, work places and communities and so on up to national and internal levels. The problem (sorry I mean truth) is that most find it difficult to firstly accept and then embrace the chaos of duality...and I can already hear the twitches of people minds, desperate for only the good and the positve LOL Awesome. Indeed it is often the enforcement of what we seek that often brings (causes) the adverse to occur. |
Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." If we see it, it will be seen. If we wall be it what will it mean? Survival of one team, the human gene? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959953Whats your thoughts as to material effects on our reality if this mentality was commonality? So no pain, so what no hunger, would we still know the joy of freedom when we long forgot our fallen mothers. lighting and thunder cause one cause another, Still light of sight created another. For every fearfull child and lonely man is there not another man with a cup in hand and laughter and lust wherever he stand? All I know is that I don't know and Opposition is essential. Have you never had a spiritual experience? Opposition does not have to exist in extremes...and there are ways to transcend opposition. Opposition exists in the physical world only, not in the higher states...like consciousness/spirit. I love this. Sick - Do you have a mirrored account? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/08/2011 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." If we see it, it will be seen. If we wall be it what will it mean? Survival of one team, the human gene? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959953Whats your thoughts as to material effects on our reality if this mentality was commonality? So no pain, so what no hunger, would we still know the joy of freedom when we long forgot our fallen mothers. lighting and thunder cause one cause another, Still light of sight created another. For every fearfull child and lonely man is there not another man with a cup in hand and laughter and lust wherever he stand? All I know is that I don't know and Opposition is essential. Have you never had a spiritual experience? Opposition does not have to exist in extremes...and there are ways to transcend opposition. Opposition exists in the physical world only, not in the higher states...like consciousness/spirit. I love this. Sick - Do you have a mirrored account? |
Always Looking User ID: 1037013 United States 09/08/2011 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." As always SS your information is profound and well recieved. Thanks for bumping this one I missed it. Last Edited by Always Looking on 09/08/2011 12:22 PM Truth and Facts - The two words liberals hate most! Suffering is burning emotional energy on the uncontrollable! The architect of the universe did not build a stairway to nowhere! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1277938 United Kingdom 09/08/2011 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." Of all mystics, Jesus was the outstanding example of all time. He was the only One in all history to have known complete cosmic-conscious unity with God. Quoting: SickScent Whilst I find Walter's stuff intriguing, i find this statement by him to be wholy inaccurate, and also perhaps a hint that he wasn't completely sincere (saying only Jesus had this experience, and that he knows this by virtue of his own). Cosmic Consciousness is perhaps the next stage in our evolution, but it is not the final or maximum experience a human can have. There is a difference between them, Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Sahaja Samadhi. My only other concern is.. what is the point of all his work? What practical use is it to any of us? Tesla produced stuff and gave us things we could use, but Walter's stuff just seems like creative ramblings to me, which is why i would say Tesla is so much more than Walter. Not to be a wet blanket but i think some criticism can be useful before jumping onto a potential bandwagon, that's all. |
Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." If we see it, it will be seen. If we wall be it what will it mean? Survival of one team, the human gene? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959953Whats your thoughts as to material effects on our reality if this mentality was commonality? So no pain, so what no hunger, would we still know the joy of freedom when we long forgot our fallen mothers. lighting and thunder cause one cause another, Still light of sight created another. For every fearfull child and lonely man is there not another man with a cup in hand and laughter and lust wherever he stand? All I know is that I don't know and Opposition is essential. Have you never had a spiritual experience? Opposition does not have to exist in extremes...and there are ways to transcend opposition. Opposition exists in the physical world only, not in the higher states...like consciousness/spirit. I love this. Sick - Do you have a mirrored account? One account is listed as "Sickscent", theother is "SickScent" The threads started by one do not show on the other's profile. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/08/2011 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." ... Quoting: Sickscent Have you never had a spiritual experience? Opposition does not have to exist in extremes...and there are ways to transcend opposition. Opposition exists in the physical world only, not in the higher states...like consciousness/spirit. I love this. Sick - Do you have a mirrored account? One account is listed as "Sickscent", theother is "SickScent" The threads started by one do not show on the other's profile. OH! No, I just updated my name one day with the two capital SS's. That's all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540502 India 09/08/2011 12:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." Cause and Effect Quoting: Sickscent The law of cause and effect always works. When anything goes wrong with you or with the world, your are or humanity in general is responsible, not God. ... God’s doing God’s part is what Creation or the outworking of cosmic law means. Therefore, instead of asking God to fulfil God’s part, attain knowledge of cosmic law so that you can harmoniously work with God to fulfil your desire. Anything that is wrong with you is of your own making; therefore, gain knowledge of the cause and of cosmic law. … … people who ask God for fulfilment of their desires forget that material things are created only through two-way action. Material things are not created by rubbing an Aladdin lamp or through wishful thinking. They are created through balanced action and reaction. (Walter and Lao Russell, Home Study Course in Cosmic Consciousness, Unit 7, Lesson 28) [link to www.walter-russell.org] Thanks sicksent |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." Dear Chad, Me and you must be connected in ways we don't know because we are always on the same wavelength. I have been a fan of Walter Russel for a while now and I am sure he has received knowledge from the Super Soul within his heart as he has described. It is because of Walter Russel that we discovered PLUTONIUM, and it was Walter Russel and his wife who wrote a book warning us about nuclear death. Just yesterday I was reading Shrimad Bhagavatam and I was given a lesson on cause and effect. I feel like I should pass this information on to you as I know it will be revealed in your heart as truth. I'm sorry if it looks like a gigantic wall of text but please take the time to read it if you can. This is in the 12th Canto of the Shrimad Bhagavatam, the 4th chapter called The Four Categories of Universal Annihilation and this is starting at Verse 13 where it has described how the Universe at the time of annihilation will fill up with water. I am leaving all the Sanskrit words and texts, and the Synonyms so you can see the meaning of each word has not been changed. Try to understand the analogies. Analogies are perfect ways to understand grand ideas. The Olive colored verses are ones I'm specifically pointing out, but they are all contextually appropriate. Bolded any color are especially appropriate. Feel free to skim over the sanskrit and synonyms and just jump straight to the TRANSLATIONS and PURPORTS. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.13 tata ekodakam visvam brahmanda-vivarantaram SYNONYMS tatah -- then; eka-udakam -- a single body of water; visvam -- the universe; brahma-anda -- of the egg of creation; vivara-antaram -- within. TRANSLATION At that time, the shell of the universe will fill up with water, forming a single cosmic ocean. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.14 tada bhumer gandha-gunam grasanty apa uda-plave grasta-gandha tu prithivi pralayatvaya kalpate SYNONYMS tada -- then; bhumeh -- of the earth; gandha-gunam -- the perceptible quality of fragrance; grasanti -- takes away; apah -- the water; uda-plave -- during the flooding; grasta-gandha -- deprived of its fragrance; tu -- and; prithivi -- the element earth; pralayatvaya kalpate -- becomes unmanifest. TRANSLATION As the entire universe is flooded, the water will rob the earth of its unique quality of fragrance, and the element earth, deprived of its distinguishing quality, will be dissolved. PURPORT As clearly explained throughout Srimad-Bhagavatam, the first element, sky, possesses the unique quality of sound. As creation expands, the second element, air, comes into being, and it possesses sound and touch. The third element, fire, possesses sound, touch and form, and the fourth element, water, possesses sound, touch, form and flavor. The earth possesses sound, touch, form, flavor and aroma. As each element loses its unique distinguishing quality, it naturally becomes indistinguishable from the more subtle elements and is thus effectively dissolved as a unique entity. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.15-19 apam rasam atho tejas ta liyante 'tha nirasah grasate tejaso rupam vayus tad-rahitam tada liyate canile tejo vayoh kham grasate gunam sa vai visati kham rajams tatas ca nabhaso gunam sabdam grasati bhutadir nabhas tam anu liyate taijasas cendriyany anga devan vaikariko gunaih mahan grasaty ahankaram gunah sattvadayas ca tam grasate 'vyakritam rajan gunan kalena coditam na tasya kalavayavaih parinamadayo gunah anady anantam avyaktam nityam karanam avyayam SYNONYMS apam -- of water; rasam -- the taste; atha -- then; tejah -- fire; tah -- that water; liyante -- dissolves; atha -- after this; nirasah -- deprived of its quality of taste; grasate -- takes away; tejasah -- of fire; rupam -- the form; vayuh -- the air; tat-rahitam -- deprived of that form; tada -- then; liyate -- merges; ca -- and; anile -- in wind; tejah -- fire; vayoh -- of the air; kham -- the ether; grasati -- takes away; gunam -- the perceptible quality (touch); sah -- that air; vai -- indeed; visati -- enters; kham -- the ether; rajan -- O King Parikshit; tatah -- thereupon; ca -- and; nabhasah -- of the ether; gunam -- the quality; sabdam -- sound; grasate -- takes away; bhuta-adih -- the element of false ego in the mode of ignorance; nabhah -- the ether; tam -- into that false ego; anu -- subsequently; liyate -- merges; taijasah -- false ego in the mode of passion; ca -- and; indriyani -- the senses; anga -- my dear King; devan -- the demigods; vaikarikah -- false ego in the mode of goodness; gunaih -- along with the manifest functions (of false ego); mahan -- the mahat-tattva; grasati -- seizes; ahankaram -- false ego; gunah -- the basic modes of nature; sattva-adayah -- goodness, passion and ignorance; ca -- and; tam -- that mahat; grasate -- seizes; avyakritam -- the unmanifest original form of nature; rajan -- O King; gunan -- the three modes; kalena -- by time; coditam -- impelled; na -- there are not; tasya -- of that unmanifest nature; kala -- of time; avayavaih -- by the segments; parinama-adayah -- transformation and the other changes of visible matter (creation, growth and so on); gunah -- such qualities; anadi -- without beginning; anantam -- without end; avyaktam -- unmanifest; nityam -- eternal; karanam -- the cause; avyayam -- infallible. TRANSLATION The element fire then seizes the taste from the element water, which, deprived of its unique quality, taste, merges into fire. Air seizes the form inherent in fire, and then fire, deprived of form, merges into air. The element ether seizes the quality of air, namely touch, and that air enters into ether. Then, O King, false ego in ignorance seizes sound, the quality of ether, after which ether merges into false ego. False ego in the mode of passion takes hold of the senses, and false ego in the mode of goodness absorbs the demigods. Then the total mahat-tattva seizes false ego along with its various functions, and that mahat is seized by the three basic modes of nature -- goodness, passion and ignorance. My dear King Parikshit, these modes are further overtaken by the original unmanifest form of nature, impelled by time. That unmanifest nature is not subject to the six kinds of transformation caused by the influence of time. Rather, it has no beginning and no end. It is the unmanifest, eternal and infallible cause of creation. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.20-21 na yatra vaco na mano na sattvam tamo rajo va mahad-adayo 'mi na prana-buddhindriya-devata va na sannivesah khalu loka-kalpah na svapna-jagran na ca tat sushuptam na kham jalam bhur anilo 'gnir arkah samsupta-vac chunya-vad apratarkyam tan mula-bhutam padam amananti SYNONYMS na -- not; yatra -- wherein; vacah -- speech; na -- not; manah -- the mind; na -- not; sattvam -- the mode of goodness; tamah -- the mode of ignorance; rajah -- the mode of passion; va -- or; mahat -- the mahat-tattva; adayah -- and so on; ami -- these elements; na -- not; prana -- the vital air; buddhi -- intelligence; indriya -- the senses; devatah -- and the controlling demigods; va -- or; na -- not; sannivesah -- the particular construction; khalu -- indeed; loka-kalpah -- of the arrangement of the planetary systems; na -- not; svapna -- sleep; jagrat -- waking condition; na -- not; ca -- and; tat -- that; sushuptam -- deep sleep; na -- not; kham -- ether; jalam -- water; bhuh -- earth; anilah -- air; agnih -- fire; arkah -- the sun; samsupta-vat -- like one who is fast asleep; sunya-vat -- like a void; apratarkyam -- inaccessible to logic; tat -- that pradhana; mula-bhutam -- serving as the basis; padam -- the substance; amananti -- great authorities say. TRANSLATION In the unmanifest stage of material nature, called pradhana, there is no expression of words, no mind and no manifestation of the subtle elements beginning from the mahat, nor are there the modes of goodness, passion and ignorance. There is no life air or intelligence, nor any senses or demigods. There is no definite arrangement of planetary systems, nor are there present the different stages of consciousness -- sleep, wakefulness and deep sleep. There is no ether, water, earth, air, fire or sun. The situation is just like that of complete sleep, or of voidness. Indeed, it is indescribable. Authorities in spiritual science explain, however, that since pradhana is the original substance, it is the actual basis of material creation. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.22 layah prakritiko hy esha purushavyaktayor yada saktayah sampraliyante vivasah kala-vidrutah SYNONYMS layah -- the annihilation; prakritikah -- of the material elements; hi -- indeed; eshah -- this; purusha -- of the Supreme Lord; avyaktayoh -- and of His material nature in its unmanifest form; yada -- when; saktayah -- the energies; sampraliyante -- merge totally; vivasah -- helpless; kala -- by time; vidrutah -- disarrayed. TRANSLATION This is the annihilation called prakritika, during which the energies belonging to the Supreme Person and His unmanifest material nature, disassembled by the force of time, are deprived of their potencies and merge together totally. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.23 buddhindriyartha-rupena jnanam bhati tad-asrayam drisyatvavyatirekabhyam ady-antavad avastu yat SYNONYMS buddhi -- of intelligence; indriya -- the senses; artha -- and the objects of perception; rupena -- in the form; jnanam -- the Absolute Truth; bhati -- manifests; tat -- of these elements; asrayam -- the basis; drisyatva -- because of being perceived; avyatirekabhyam -- and because of being nondifferent from its own cause; adi-anta-vat -- which has a beginning and an end; avastu -- is insubstantial; yat -- whatever. TRANSLATION It is the Absolute Truth alone who manifests in the forms of intelligence, the senses and the objects of sense perception, and who is their ultimate basis. Whatever has a beginning and an end is insubstantial because of being an object perceived by limited senses and because of being nondifferent from its own cause. PURPORT The word drisyatva indicates that all subtle and gross material manifestations are made visible by the potency of the Supreme Lord and again become invisible, or unmanifest, at the time of annihilation. They are therefore in essence not separate from the source of their expansion and withdrawal. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.24 dipas cakshus ca rupam ca jyotisho na prithag bhavet evam dhih khani matras ca na syur anyatamad ritat SYNONYMS dipah -- a lamp; cakshuh -- a perceiving eye; ca -- and; rupam -- a perceived form; ca -- and; jyotishah -- from the original element fire; na -- not; prithak -- distinct; bhavet -- are; evam -- in the same way; dhih -- intelligence; khani -- the senses; matrah -- the perceptions; ca -- and; na syuh -- they are not; anyatamat -- which is itself completely distinct; ritat -- from the reality. TRANSLATION A lamp, the eye that views by the light of that lamp, and the visible form that is viewed are all basically nondifferent from the element fire. In the same way, intelligence, the senses and sense perceptions have no existence separate from the supreme reality, although that Absolute Truth remains totally distinct from them. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.25 buddher jagaranam svapnah sushuptir iti cocyate maya-matram idam rajan nanatvam pratyag-atmani SYNONYMS buddheh -- of intelligence; jagaranam -- waking consciousness; svapnah -- sleep; sushuptih -- deep sleep; iti -- thus; ca -- and; ucyate -- are called; maya-matram -- merely illusion; idam -- this; rajan -- O King; nanatvam -- the duality; pratyak-atmani -- experienced by the pure soul. TRANSLATION The three states of intelligence are called waking consciousness, sleep and deep sleep. But, my dear King, the variegated experiences created for the pure living entity by these different states are nothing more than illusion. PURPORT Pure Krishna consciousness exists beyond the various stages of material awareness. Just as darkness vanishes in the presence of light, so illusory material intelligence, which is experienced as normal perception, dreaming and deep sleep, completely vanishes in the brilliant presence of pure Krishna consciousness, the constitutional condition of every living entity. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.26 yatha jala-dhara vyomni bhavanti na bhavanti ca brahmanidam tatha visvam avayavy udayapyayat SYNONYMS yatha -- just as; jala-dharah -- the clouds; vyomni -- in the sky; bhavanti -- are; na bhavanti -- are not; ca -- and; brahmani -- within the Absolute Truth; idam -- this; tatha -- similarly; visvam -- universe; avayavi -- having parts; udaya -- because of generation; apyayat -- and dissolution. TRANSLATION Just as clouds in the sky come into being and are then dispersed by the amalgamation and dissolution of their constituent elements, this material universe is created and destroyed within the Absolute Truth by the amalgamation and dissolution of its elemental, constituent parts. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.27 satyam hy avayavah proktah sarvavayavinam iha vinarthena pratiyeran patasyevanga tantavah SYNONYMS satyam -- real; hi -- because; avayavah -- the ingredient cause; proktah -- is said to be; sarva-avayavinam -- of all constituted entities; iha -- in this created world; vina -- apart from; arthena -- their manifest product; pratiyeran -- they can be perceived; patasya -- of a cloth; iva -- as; anga -- my dear King; tantavah -- the threads. TRANSLATION My dear King, it is stated [in the Vedanta-sutra] that the ingredient cause that constitutes any manifested product in this universe can be perceived as a separate reality, just as the threads that make up a cloth can be perceived separately from their product. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.28 yat samanya-viseshabhyam upalabhyeta sa bhramah anyonyapasrayat sarvam ady-antavad avastu yat SYNONYMS yat -- whatever; samanya -- in terms of general cause; viseshabhyam -- and specific product; upalabhyeta -- is experienced; sah -- that; bhramah -- is illusion; anyonya -- mutual; apasrayat -- because of dependence; sarvam -- everything; adi-anta-vat -- subject to beginning and end; avastu -- unreal; yat -- which. TRANSLATION Anything experienced in terms of general cause and specific effect must be an illusion, because such causes and effects exist only relative to each other. Indeed, whatever has a beginning and an end is unreal. PURPORT The nature of a material cause cannot be perceived without perception of the effect. For example, the burning nature of fire cannot be perceived without observing the effect of fire, such as a burning object or ashes. Similarly, the saturating quality of water cannot be understood without observing the effect, a saturated cloth or paper. The organizational power of a man cannot be understood without observing the effect of his dynamic work, namely a solid institution. In this way, not only do effects depend upon their causes, but the perception of the cause also depends upon observation of the effect. Thus both are defined relatively and have a beginning and an end. The conclusion is that all such material causes and effects are essentially temporary and relative, and consequently illusory. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the cause of all causes, has no beginning or end. Therefore He is neither material nor illusory. Lord Krishna's opulences and potencies are absolute reality, beyond the interdependence of material cause and effect. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.29 vikarah khyayamano 'pi pratyag-atmanam antara na nirupyo 'sty anur api syac cec cit-sama atma-vat SYNONYMS vikarah -- the transformation of created existence; khyayamanah -- appearing; api -- although; pratyak-atmanam -- the Supreme Soul; antara -- without; na -- not; nirupyah -- conceivable; asti -- is; anuh -- a single atom; api -- even; syat -- it is so; cet -- if; cit-samah -- equally spirit; atma-vat -- remaining as it is, without change. TRANSLATION Although perceived, the transformation of even a single atom of material nature has no ultimate definition without reference to the Supreme Soul. To be accepted as factually existing, something must possess the same quality as pure spirit -- eternal, unchanging existence. Srimad Bhagavatam 12.4.30 na hi satyasya nanatvam avidvan yadi manyate nanatvam chidrayor yadvaj jyotishor vatayor iva SYNONYMS na -- there is no; hi -- indeed; satyasya -- of the Absolute Truth; nanatvam -- duality; avidvan -- a person not in true knowledge; yadi -- if; manyate -- he thinks; nanatvam -- the duality; chidrayoh -- of the two skies; yadvat -- just as; jyotishoh -- of the two celestial lights; vatayoh -- of the two winds; iva -- as. TRANSLATION There is no material duality in the Absolute Truth. The duality perceived by an ignorant person is like the difference between the sky contained in an empty pot and the sky outside the pot, or the difference between the reflection of the sun in water and the sun itself in the sky, or the difference between the vital air within one living body and that within another body. We are always trying to figure out things from a limited perspective, by limiting the universe. But if we start with the stance that there is an Absolute Truth, and the universe is the effect of the the Absolute Truth, then we can start making better estimations of our existence. [EDIT] Cleaned up text so its more readable. Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 09/08/2011 12:57 PM "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
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Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." PURPORT Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities The nature of a material cause cannot be perceived without perception of the effect. For example, the burning nature of fire cannot be perceived without observing the effect of fire, such as a burning object or ashes. Similarly, the saturating quality of water cannot be understood without observing the effect, a saturated cloth or paper. The organizational power of a man cannot be understood without observing the effect of his dynamic work, namely a solid institution. In this way, not only do effects depend upon their causes, but the perception of the cause also depends upon observation of the effect. Thus both are defined relatively and have a beginning and an end. The conclusion is that all such material causes and effects are essentially temporary and relative, and consequently illusory. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the cause of all causes, has no beginning or end. Therefore He is neither material nor illusory. Lord Krishna's opulences and potencies are absolute reality, beyond the interdependence of material cause and effect. TRANSLATION There is no material duality in the Absolute Truth. The duality perceived by an ignorant person is like the difference between the sky contained in an empty pot and the sky outside the pot, or the difference between the reflection of the sun in water and the sun itself in the sky, or the difference between the vital air within one living body and that within another body. I took out most of the quote to save space. This is EXACTLY what we have been talking about! Truely I feel we are all on a fact finding mission of effect. And this understanding may indeed be part of the "First Mystery". Indeed I set my own reality and effect through my intent! LOL PS - This also helps me continue to understand the dynamic and polarising forces in the world, which many see as evil. Very enlightening! Last Edited by Poster 8398 on 09/08/2011 01:14 PM |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." PURPORT Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities The nature of a material cause cannot be perceived without perception of the effect. For example, the burning nature of fire cannot be perceived without observing the effect of fire, such as a burning object or ashes. Similarly, the saturating quality of water cannot be understood without observing the effect, a saturated cloth or paper. The organizational power of a man cannot be understood without observing the effect of his dynamic work, namely a solid institution. In this way, not only do effects depend upon their causes, but the perception of the cause also depends upon observation of the effect. Thus both are defined relatively and have a beginning and an end. The conclusion is that all such material causes and effects are essentially temporary and relative, and consequently illusory. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the cause of all causes, has no beginning or end. Therefore He is neither material nor illusory. Lord Krishna's opulences and potencies are absolute reality, beyond the interdependence of material cause and effect. TRANSLATION There is no material duality in the Absolute Truth. The duality perceived by an ignorant person is like the difference between the sky contained in an empty pot and the sky outside the pot, or the difference between the reflection of the sun in water and the sun itself in the sky, or the difference between the vital air within one living body and that within another body. I took out most of the quote to save space. This is EXACTLY what we have been talking about! Truely I feel we are all on a fact finding mission of effect. And this understanding may indeed be part of the "First Mystery". Indeed I set my own reality and effect through my intent! LOL PS - This also helps me continue to understand the dynamic and polarising forces in the world, which many see as evil. Very enlightening! Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
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Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." PURPORT Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities The nature of a material cause cannot be perceived without perception of the effect. For example, the burning nature of fire cannot be perceived without observing the effect of fire, such as a burning object or ashes. Similarly, the saturating quality of water cannot be understood without observing the effect, a saturated cloth or paper. The organizational power of a man cannot be understood without observing the effect of his dynamic work, namely a solid institution. In this way, not only do effects depend upon their causes, but the perception of the cause also depends upon observation of the effect. Thus both are defined relatively and have a beginning and an end. The conclusion is that all such material causes and effects are essentially temporary and relative, and consequently illusory. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the cause of all causes, has no beginning or end. Therefore He is neither material nor illusory. Lord Krishna's opulences and potencies are absolute reality, beyond the interdependence of material cause and effect. TRANSLATION There is no material duality in the Absolute Truth. The duality perceived by an ignorant person is like the difference between the sky contained in an empty pot and the sky outside the pot, or the difference between the reflection of the sun in water and the sun itself in the sky, or the difference between the vital air within one living body and that within another body. I took out most of the quote to save space. This is EXACTLY what we have been talking about! Truely I feel we are all on a fact finding mission of effect. And this understanding may indeed be part of the "First Mystery". Indeed I set my own reality and effect through my intent! LOL PS - This also helps me continue to understand the dynamic and polarising forces in the world, which many see as evil. Very enlightening! Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. Complete surrender and self (ego) destruction. Not as easy a process (for the ego) as some may think. |
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SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." PURPORT Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities The nature of a material cause cannot be perceived without perception of the effect. For example, the burning nature of fire cannot be perceived without observing the effect of fire, such as a burning object or ashes. Similarly, the saturating quality of water cannot be understood without observing the effect, a saturated cloth or paper. The organizational power of a man cannot be understood without observing the effect of his dynamic work, namely a solid institution. In this way, not only do effects depend upon their causes, but the perception of the cause also depends upon observation of the effect. Thus both are defined relatively and have a beginning and an end. The conclusion is that all such material causes and effects are essentially temporary and relative, and consequently illusory. The Supreme Personality of Godhead, although the cause of all causes, has no beginning or end. Therefore He is neither material nor illusory. Lord Krishna's opulences and potencies are absolute reality, beyond the interdependence of material cause and effect. TRANSLATION There is no material duality in the Absolute Truth. The duality perceived by an ignorant person is like the difference between the sky contained in an empty pot and the sky outside the pot, or the difference between the reflection of the sun in water and the sun itself in the sky, or the difference between the vital air within one living body and that within another body. I took out most of the quote to save space. This is EXACTLY what we have been talking about! Truely I feel we are all on a fact finding mission of effect. And this understanding may indeed be part of the "First Mystery". Indeed I set my own reality and effect through my intent! LOL PS - This also helps me continue to understand the dynamic and polarising forces in the world, which many see as evil. Very enlightening! Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. Complete surrender and self (ego) destruction. Not as easy a process (for the ego) as some may think. No, not complete Ego destruction. We are personalities. We have always been personalties. We will always have Ego. What we need to destroy is False Ego. False Ego is the conception that you are the body. That you are a man, you are a woman, you are an American, you are an Australian. That is False Ego. Real Ego is I am a Spirit Soul. I am part and parcel of God. Qualitatively I am of the same substance as God, but quantitatively he is Unlimited where as I am limited. God has an unchanging, unlimited, eternally blissful and knowledgeable body, and I have a body that I must change at the time of death. I can get out of this entanglement of birth and death by recognizing my original position as a spiritual spark Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 09/08/2011 01:36 PM "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." ... Quoting: Poster 8398 I took out most of the quote to save space. This is EXACTLY what we have been talking about! Truely I feel we are all on a fact finding mission of effect. And this understanding may indeed be part of the "First Mystery". Indeed I set my own reality and effect through my intent! LOL PS - This also helps me continue to understand the dynamic and polarising forces in the world, which many see as evil. Very enlightening! Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. Complete surrender and self (ego) destruction. Not as easy a process (for the ego) as some may think. No, not complete Ego destruction. We are personalities. We have always been personalties. We will always have Ego. What we need to destroy is False Ego. False Ego is the conception that you are the body. That you are a man, you are a woman, you are an American, you are an Australian. That is False Ego. Real Ego is I am a Spirit Soul. I am part and parcel of God. Qualitatively I am of the same substance as God, but quantitatively he is Unlimited where as I am limited. This is a great lesson for me and something I was looking for this past 24 hours. Some of these I have done, or started, and others I have yet to comprehend. Thank you! Last Edited by Poster 8398 on 09/08/2011 01:36 PM |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." ... Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. Complete surrender and self (ego) destruction. Not as easy a process (for the ego) as some may think. No, not complete Ego destruction. We are personalities. We have always been personalties. We will always have Ego. What we need to destroy is False Ego. False Ego is the conception that you are the body. That you are a man, you are a woman, you are an American, you are an Australian. That is False Ego. Real Ego is I am a Spirit Soul. I am part and parcel of God. Qualitatively I am of the same substance as God, but quantitatively he is Unlimited where as I am limited. This is a great lesson for me and something I was looking for this past 24 hours. Thank you! If you enjoy that you will enjoy all the teachings of the Gaudiya-vaishnava Acharyas. [link to vedabase.net] and Bhagavad-gita as It Is is considered to be the Sum and Substance of ALL Vedic Teachings. The first lesson of the Bhagavad-gita is that you are not that body, but are a spirit soul. [link to vedabase.net] The Teachings of Lord Chaitanya are a great place to start also. Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 09/08/2011 01:38 PM "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." ... Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities Yes this is the transcendental wisdom of the Absolute Truth. He reveals these things to us. We may think we have a hand in understanding, but we only have a hand in surrendering and accepting. Complete surrender and self (ego) destruction. Not as easy a process (for the ego) as some may think. No, not complete Ego destruction. We are personalities. We have always been personalties. We will always have Ego. What we need to destroy is False Ego. False Ego is the conception that you are the body. That you are a man, you are a woman, you are an American, you are an Australian. That is False Ego. Real Ego is I am a Spirit Soul. I am part and parcel of God. Qualitatively I am of the same substance as God, but quantitatively he is Unlimited where as I am limited. This is a great lesson for me and something I was looking for this past 24 hours. Some of these I have done, or started, and others I have yet to comprehend. Thank you! by the way I edited my post and added a few more words after to clarify more vividly. "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
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SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." I'm in the process of reinstalling a PDF reader to go back over The Secret of Light by Walter Russel. Also, the Universal One: Alchemy & Chemistry "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
SaveTheLivingEntities User ID: 1534085 United States 09/08/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." AUTHOR'S FOREWORD Jesus said, "GOD IS LIGHT," and no man of that day knew what He meant. The day is now here when all men must know what Jesus meant when He said "GOD IS LIGHT." For within the secret of Light is vast knowledge yet unrevealed to man. Light is all there is; it is all we have to deal with, but we do not yet know what it is. The purpose of this message is to tell what it is. Today's civilization has advanced far in knowing HOW to deal with matter but we do not know WHAT matter is nor the WHY of it. Nor do we know what energy, electricity, magnetism, gravitation and radiation are. Nor do we know the purpose of the inert gases and WHAT they are. Nor do we know the structure of the elemental atoms nor the gyroscopic principle which determines that structure. Nor are we aware of the fact that this is a two way continuous universe of balance in all effects of motion and not a one-way discontinuous universe. Nor have we even yet heard of or suspected the most important of all principles in physics, THE VOIDANCE PRINCIPLE and the mirrors and lenses of space which are the cause of illusion in all moving things. Nor do we even consider the entire material electric universe to be the illusion which it is; there being no reality to it whatsoever. Nor have we the slightest inkling of the cause of curvature of space, nor the voidance of that curvature in planes of zero curvature at wave field boundaries.No one now knows how it is that crystals get their various shapes. It will amaze the world to know that those shapes of crystals are determined in space by the shapes of the wave fields which bound the various elemental structures. Nor have we the slightest conception of what constitutes the life principle, nor the principle of growth, nor the simultaneous unfoldment-refoldment principle which repeats all patterns in Nature sequentially and records and voids them as they are repeated. Nor are we aware of that recording principle by means of which the Creator carries forth the sum totals of every sequential cycle in His unfolding and refolding universe unto the very end of its manifestations upon one planet and its beginning on anew one. Nor are we dynamically aware of the souls and seeds of things. These roots of universal repetition are now but metaphysical abstractions to religion and physical guesswork to science. Within the secret of Light is the answer to all of these heretofore unanswered questions, and many more, which the ages have not yet solved. This revelation of the nature of Light will be the inheritance of man in this coming New Age of greater comprehension. Its unfoldment will prove the existence of God by methods and standards acceptable to science and religion alike. It will lay a spiritual foundation underthe present material one of science.The two greatest elements in civilization, religion and science, will thus find unity in marriage of the two. Likewise human relationships will become more balanced because of greater knowledge of universal law which lies behind all of the processes which light uses to interweave the patterned forms of this electric wave universe. There is no department of life which will not be vitally affected by this new knowledge of the nature of Light, from the university to the laboratory, from government to industry, and from nation to nation. I therefore give it to you with all of its clarity as I myself have become aware of it from behind the scenes of this cosmic cinema of light illusion which is our universe. -Walter Russel [link to www.scribd.com] Last Edited by SaveTheLivingEntities on 09/08/2011 02:05 PM "A sense of common interest can be fostered among individuals, if they know that they are inter-connected, are parts of one Organic System and are the sons and daughters of one Father. Here is the task of all religions; to teach people that all beings of the world are closely inter-related. Although steadfastness or firm belief in God (Nistha) according to some particular faith and eligibility of the individual is congenial for healthy spiritual growth of every individual, religious bigotry which begets enmity is condemnable, as it is against the real interest of the individual and society. Real religion teaches love for one another. Lord Sri Krishna Chaitanya Mahaprabhu propagated the cult of all-embracing Divine Love which brings universal brotherhood on a transcendental plane. (Srila Bhakti Dayita Madhava Maharaja ) "If one loves Krishna, he must love Lord Jesus also. And if one perfectly loves Jesus he must love Krishna too. If he says, "Why shall I love Krishna? I shall love Jesus," then he has no knowledge. And if one says, "Why shall I love Jesus? I shall love Krishna", then he has no knowledge either. If one understands Krishna, then he will understand Jesus. If one understands Jesus, you'll understand Krishna too" (Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada - Room conversation with Allen Ginsberg, May 12, 1969 / Columbus - Ohio) Transmigration Of The Soul. All you need to know about REINCARNATION Thread: YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS IS A PRODUCT OF ALL YOUR PAST LIVES ***Transmigration of the Soul: Proof of Re-Incarnation*** ( 11 part video documentary ) link for thread |
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GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 1383040 United States 09/08/2011 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." VERY deep. I have always maintained that God did his part with creation. All the rest has been a manifestation of ours and others partial understanding. We are what we believe. I think this is what Christ tried to tell us. He showed us, yet we didn't believe it, yet it is all around us all the time. VERY GOOD THREAD!! THANK YOU. I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
Poster 8398 User ID: 1297697 United States 09/08/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Cause and Effect - Nikola Tesla to Walter Russell - "The public is not ready for your teachings..." AUTHOR'S FOREWORD Quoting: SaveTheLivingEntities Jesus said, "GOD IS LIGHT," and no man of that day knew what He meant. The day is now here when all men must know what Jesus meant when He said "GOD IS LIGHT." For within the secret of Light is vast knowledge yet unrevealed to man. Light is all there is; it is all we have to deal with, but we do not yet know what it is. The purpose of this message is to tell what it is. Today's civilization has advanced far in knowing HOW to deal with matter but we do not know WHAT matter is nor the WHY of it. Nor do we know what energy, electricity, magnetism, gravitation and radiation are. Nor do we know the purpose of the inert gases and WHAT they are. Nor do we know the structure of the elemental atoms nor the gyroscopic principle which determines that structure. Nor are we aware of the fact that this is a two way continuous universe of balance in all effects of motion and not a one-way discontinuous universe. Nor have we even yet heard of or suspected the most important of all principles in physics, THE VOIDANCE PRINCIPLE and the mirrors and lenses of space which are the cause of illusion in all moving things. Nor do we even consider the entire material electric universe to be the illusion which it is; there being no reality to it whatsoever. Nor have we the slightest inkling of the cause of curvature of space, nor the voidance of that curvature in planes of zero curvature at wave field boundaries.No one now knows how it is that crystals get their various shapes. It will amaze the world to know that those shapes of crystals are determined in space by the shapes of the wave fields which bound the various elemental structures. Nor have we the slightest conception of what constitutes the life principle, nor the principle of growth, nor the simultaneous unfoldment-refoldment principle which repeats all patterns in Nature sequentially and records and voids them as they are repeated. Nor are we aware of that recording principle by means of which the Creator carries forth the sum totals of every sequential cycle in His unfolding and refolding universe unto the very end of its manifestations upon one planet and its beginning on anew one. Nor are we dynamically aware of the souls and seeds of things. These roots of universal repetition are now but metaphysical abstractions to religion and physical guesswork to science. Within the secret of Light is the answer to all of these heretofore unanswered questions, and many more, which the ages have not yet solved. This revelation of the nature of Light will be the inheritance of man in this coming New Age of greater comprehension. Its unfoldment will prove the existence of God by methods and standards acceptable to science and religion alike. It will lay a spiritual foundation underthe present material one of science.The two greatest elements in civilization, religion and science, will thus find unity in marriage of the two. Likewise human relationships will become more balanced because of greater knowledge of universal law which lies behind all of the processes which light uses to interweave the patterned forms of this electric wave universe. There is no department of life which will not be vitally affected by this new knowledge of the nature of Light, from the university to the laboratory, from government to industry, and from nation to nation. I therefore give it to you with all of its clarity as I myself have become aware of it from behind the scenes of this cosmic cinema of light illusion which is our universe. -Walter Russel [link to www.scribd.com] And more reading to do! This was absolutly beautiful. Been struggling with the words to use on some of the things I have been experiencing, and they are encapsulated, and expanded on, above. |