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FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.

 
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FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
PHOENIX The U.S. Justice Department on Tuesday filed a lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of Arizona's new law targeting illegal immigrants, setting the stage for a clash between the federal government and the state over the nation's toughest immigration crackdown.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Phoenix argues that Arizona's law requiring state and local police to question and possibly arrest illegal immigrants during the enforcement of other laws such as traffic violations usurps federal authority.

"In our constitutional system, the federal government has pre-eminent authority to regulate immigration matters," the lawsuit says. "This authority derives from the United States Constitution and numerous acts of Congress. The nation's immigration laws reflect a careful and considered balance of national law enforcement, foreign relations, and humanitarian interests."

The government is seeking an injunction to delay the July 29 implementation of the law until the case is resolved. It ultimately wants the law declared invalid.

The government contends that the Arizona law violates the supremacy clause of the Constitution, a legal theory that says federal laws override state laws. It is already illegal under federal law to be in the country illegally, but Arizona is the first state to make it a state crime and add its own punishment and enforcement tactics.

State Sen. Russell Pearce, the principal sponsor of the bill co-sponsored by dozens of fellow Republican legislators, denounced the lawsuit as "absolute insult to the rule of law" as well as to Arizona and its residents.

"It's outrageous and it's clear they don't want (immigration) laws enforced. What they want is to continue their non-enforcement policy," Pearce said. "They ignore the damage to America, the cost to our citizens, the deaths" tied to border-related violence.

State Rep. Kyrsten Sinema, a Phoenix Democrat who opposes the law, said the suit should help settle questions over what states can do when they don't think federal laws are being adequately enforced.

"I hope this galvanizes Congress to gain the moral courage they need to address this (immigration) crisis," Sinema said.

Tuesday's action has been expected for weeks. President Barack Obama has called the state law misguided. Supporters say it is a reasonable reaction to federal inaction on immigration.

Gov. Jan Brewer's spokesman called the decision to sue "a terribly bad decision."

"Arizona obviously has a terrible border security crisis that needs to be addressed, so Gov. Brewer has repeatedly said she would have preferred the resources and attention of the federal government would be focused on that crisis rather than this," spokesman Paul Senseman said.

Three of the five Democrats in Arizona's congressional delegation, who are facing tough re-election battles, had also urged Obama not to try to block the law from going into effect.

Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and John McCain of Arizona also lashed out at the administration's decision, saying "the American people must wonder whether the Obama Administration is really committed to securing the border when it sues a state that is simply trying to protect its people by enforcing immigration law."

The law requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to question a person's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion that they are in the country illegally.

Arizona passed the law after years of frustration over problems associated with illegal immigration, including drug trafficking and violent kidnappings. The state is the biggest gateway into the U.S. for illegal immigrants, and is home to an estimated 460,000 illegal immigrants.

Obama addressed the Arizona law in a speech on immigration reform last week. He touched on one of the major concerns of federal officials, that other states were poised to follow Arizona by crafting their own immigration enforcement laws.

"As other states and localities go their own ways, we face the prospect that different rules for immigration will apply in different parts of the country," Obama said. "A patchwork of local immigration rules where we all know one
clear national standard is needed."

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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
we all know one clear national standard is needed."
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Dear Mr Soreto, we do have a notional standard in place. You just need to enforce it.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
I hope arizona stands up to these people. I 100% support what they are doing and would do my part.

I have lost all confidence in my president and the system. I have not voted the past 2 elections because I did not like my choices. Anyway I voted was supporting one of the people I did not like.

please please please god. Give me someone who stands up for the people and this country. Not someone loyal to the Repubs or dems. it seems this has caused the biggest problem to our nation.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
so this bear goes both ways or has a head issue?
you're a dick mr. hand
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
I say we all move to Arizona, pick up a gun,stand a post and defend this land from all threats foreign and domestic.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
so this bear goes both ways or has a head issue?
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Just the issues...lol. I don't do that "both ways" thing.
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Secede already
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Az should sue them back for not protecting the border and not enforcing the laws that already exist
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i say if the obamanites try to force this issue arizona say fine and comply, and vow to not do the gun checks and other federal shit for the government and tell them to do their own work.
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I'm gonna laugh when Gov Brewer and the AZ legislature does this to washington no matter what the outcome is:

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How can the federal government sue to stop enforcement of it's own law?

The fed is going to lose... badly.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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gosh, i wonder which side JEW-diciary will rule in favor of ??


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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
i say if the obamanites try to force this issue arizona say fine and comply, and vow to not do the gun checks and other federal shit for the government and tell them to do their own work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1027284


Agreed. Make them enforce every little federal law, bog them down, drain them of every little bit of man power and money.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
Az should sue them back for not protecting the border and not enforcing the laws that already exist
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Agreed. sue them for damages caused by no border security.

Has AZ declared this an emergency? Remember in Katrina, they said the Gov was the one to blame for not declaring an emergency and asking for Natl Guard troops soon enough.

Az should ask for National Guard.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
Ya know, if you replace slavery with immigration, it is starting to look like the mid-late 1800's again...Feds too big, states fighting back... just need to more to join in...I got a bad feeling this is going to lead to all out civil war if something doesn't happen.

Grant it, I think we need a civil war... at least that way we could get the shit out of washington...
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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Well then...Sieg Heil!
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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So is Obama being the prez...with no proof of citizenship. So therefore anything he says or does should not matter.
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NWO NWO NWO


SLAVE LABOR



NWO NWO NWO
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
Ya know, if you replace slavery with immigration, it is starting to look like the mid-late 1800's again...Feds too big, states fighting back... just need to more to join in...I got a bad feeling this is going to lead to all out civil war if something doesn't happen.

Grant it, I think we need a civil war... at least that way we could get the shit out of washington...
 Quoting: Lord Ergo



Solid point. Watch the movie GANGS OF NEW YORK. The similarities are there.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
Not only is the AZ law constitutional, it is the standard practice throughout the rest of the world.

If you have ever traveled out of this county (legaly), then you know that you must carry your passport and/or visa with you at all times. And you can be ask to show your passport and/or visa at any time by an authority of that country.

It's the way it is everywhere else - why should it be any different here in the USA - especially in cases where we know illegals are crossing the border and causing problems.

This is not hard to understand and tax payer money should not have to defend such nonsense.
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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And if you support the status quo and illegal immigration, you are a fascist, pro slavery, government shill! sheep
Calling an illegal alien an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.

I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics"
they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone!

Herbert Spencer, originator of the term, "Survival of the Fittest," said it best - "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.


So is Obama being the prez...with no proof of citizenship. So therefore anything he says or does should not matter.
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you are such an idiot, this has nothing to so with who is in office. You want to get checked if you are late on any bills or have paid your taxes?, etc. etc. next time your stopped???

that is what is next, this is just the first step.
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I say we all move to Arizona, pick up a gun,stand a post and defend this land from all threats foreign and domestic.
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As Bob Barker would say. (Arizonian)

'Come on Down'
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The gov't will not allow this law to be enacted. If the gov't looses it suit, it sets a precedence to allow the other border states to enact laws which throws a wrench into Barry's immagration agenda (i.e. he want's as many illegals in this country as possibele so that when he rams thru ammnesy he has the 15-20 million voters he wants).
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the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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No it isn't and you are a moran
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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No it is not.
Read it
[link to www.azleg.gov]
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Re: FUN FUN..Feds sue to block Arizona illegal immigrant law.
Supremacy clause?

It clearly states in the Constitution that the Federal Government derives its power (is given its power) by the States, who get their power from THE PEOPLE, who get their power from GOD.

It also says that those downwind from God (i.e.,the Feds) cannot have more power than those who gave them power (i.e., the States). And that the Power RESTS with the People. NOT the government.

And THAT is the REAL Supremacy clause!

And I don't give a shit what MSNBC says: WE ARE SOVEREIGNS. Kings of our own land, every last one of us who own property.
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Why do Democrats not have a comprehesive immigration reform right now?


What are they thinking??? If they can't get it done this summer, their party is FINISHED.


Another broken promise from Obama. Obama needs to do something about it. Otherwise, everything is out of control.
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the arizona law is unconstitutional and if you support it you are a nazi.
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You sir, are an Obamabot, and as such can bite my shiny metal ass!
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Supremacy clause?

It clearly states in the Constitution that the Federal Government derives its power (is given its power) by the States, who get their power from THE PEOPLE, who get their power from GOD.

It also says that those downwind from God (i.e.,the Feds) cannot have more power than those who gave them power (i.e., the States). And that the Power RESTS with the People. NOT the government.

And THAT is the REAL Supremacy clause!

And I don't give a shit what MSNBC says: WE ARE SOVEREIGNS. Kings of our own land, every last one of us who own property.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1016629


So true! Over the weekend, I saw a good bumper sticker - it was a quote from Thomas Jefferson. It said...

"A Government so big to give you everything you want is also big enough to take all you have"

We should be careful and watchful of these things - it seems they are starting right before our very eyes.





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