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Who or what is lucifer? (Light Bearer/bringer)

 
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I am just another distorter of the truth. I am nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time I have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.

You is I and I is you. Be mindful of pointing fingers.
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Don't be a retard, ya Libtard.
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly


Your jahve/baal infact kills more people in bible than satan.

Once more the people grow weary of starving and thirsting (who wouldn't?) and they dare to complain. God sends poisonous snakes to kill many of the people. - Numbers 21:6
When the enemy Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant (a magical box that the Israelites think God lived in), God sends a plague of hemorrhoids and mice to the Philistines (See Jehovah's Potty) who then give the Ark back to the Israelites. Silly Israelites, just can't resist the urge to look inside the box and God killed the entire city (50,070 men!) in response to their curiosity. - 1 Samuel 6:19
While transporting the Ark on a cart, the oxen pulling the cart shook the Ark and the cartdriver feared that the Ark may fall or be damaged so he reached out to steady it. God had warned that no one was to touch the Ark except for his specially privileged priests. It didn't matter that the cartdriver was only trying to protect the Ark, God got angry and killed the driver there on the spot. - 2 Samuel 6:7
King David was commanded by God not to conduct a census or count the number of Israelites (the reason God gave this command was that he had told Abraham that he would have so many children that they couldn't be counted and if David counted them, that would make God a liar.). The Bible tells us in one place that God got angry with Israel and made David count them (2 Samuel 24:1). In another place it says that Satan made David number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1). [Editor's note: We don't see the contradiction.] To make David pay for his "sin" of counting the people, God gives him a choice of 7 years of famine or being pursued by his enemies for 3 months or 3 days of pestilence. David leaves the choice up to God who chooses the pestilence and proceeds to kill 70,000 men. When God's angel of death reaches the capital city of Jerusalem, God "repented him of the evil" and made the angel stop killing. At least the Bible admits that the murders were "evil." - 2 Samuel 24:15-16
A man was warned by God not to eat or drink at a certain place, then a prophet lies to him and tells him that an angel said he could eat and drink at that place. The man trusts the prophet and God sends a lion to eat the man because he ate and drank there. Nothing happens to the prophet who lied. - 1 Kings 13:18
Jeroboam becomes the king of God's chosen people and allows the worship of idols. God vows that every member of his family will be slaughtered and left to be eaten by dogs and birds. God decides that the king's son (who is sick at the time) is the only one who is good enough to avoid the upcoming punishment so God rewards him by killing him right away instead of having him suffer along with the rest of the king's family. - 1 Kings 14:1-13
When a captain and his 50 men came to find the prophet Elijah, they asked for the man of God to come down. Elijah responded by saying "If I'm a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven and consume you." God gave Elijah the sign that he asked for and burned up the captain and his 50 men. Another captain was sent with 50 men and God repeats his fiery performance, burning them all to a crisp. - 2 Kings 1:10-11
When the Assyrians camped outside of the city of Jerusalem, God sent his angel to do his dirty work once more and 185,000 Assyrians were slaughtered in one night. Now that's an efficient angel. - 2 Kings 19:35
God threatens to destroy his wayward people because he is "weary of repenting." He tells them that if they take wives and have sons and daughters where they are living, "they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." - Jeremiah 15:6-7, 16:3-4
Not satisfied with this threat, God goes on to say that he will bring a sword among them to kill them and that he will destroy their cities. He then says that he will allow some of them to escape just so they will remember how terrible the Lord was. Those who are near will be killed with the sword and will starve in famine and God will kill those who are far away with disease, "And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that would do this evil unto them." Once more God admits that what he does is evil. God is finally telling the truth! - Ezekiel 6:3-13
Don't be mistaken about the evil of God's intentions, for he admits that his sword will go out against all flesh, both the righteous, right along with the wicked. - Ezekiel 21:3-5
God threatens to send armies after his chosen people in order to stone them and slay them with swords and kill their sons and daughters. - Ezekiel 23:46-47
In his excitement, God says that he will make a great bonfire out of the city of Jerusalem. Commanding, "Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." Once more, God reveals his bloody craving for human barbecue. - Ezekiel 24:9-10
True to his word, God kills his own people. One of the prophets cries out to God, "The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou has slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied." We couldn't have said it better ourselves. - Lamentations 2:21


Care to read your fucking bible for once and while? lol...







You are just another distorter of the truth. You are nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time you have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.
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No one is distorting anything. It is written in your bible how bloodthirsty your God is. What type of God wants blood sacrifice? And is excited because smell of blood. Lol..but do as you wish, it is your life. It is kinda amazing how christians dont even know their own holy book.
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Lucifer was a spirit son of God the father, just like Christ.
Just like we all are. Sons and daughters.
Lucifer was a son of the morning.
Before the world was, Lucifer rebelled against the plan of Christ, that was laid in anticipation of the plan to
send spirit children to earth to gain mortal bodies.

Satan or Lucifer had his own plan. He said he would reign
on earth, be adored and force everyone back to the kingdom of God whether they liked it or not.

(Of course, an unwilling participant in the kingdom of
God is ludicrous as so much creation goes on there and
to violate the laws of creation would be to introduce chaos and evaporate existence)

The plan of Christ was to let everyone who wanted to come back to be able to do so freely by following an example he would set, to come to earth humbly, live humbly, and to
encourage everyone to worship God the father.

Satan organized many of the spirit children of God, into
followers of his, 1/3 the host actually, and they launched
a war against Christ. They lost and were cast out of the presence of God the father. They can never be born to gain a mortal body, retaining their spirit form forever.

They can and do hang out here. They tempt people into hurting themselves and others. They are still organized under Lucifer and are in a constant state of war against Christ and his followers, always seeking destruction
of creation. We rarely see them, though they can be inches from us. Guardians are also outside our visual frequency, and stay close with us also, to guard us as long as we
want them.

Everyone who has been born, was a follower of Christ before birth or they would not be here. The reward for the followers of Christ is to be involved in creation forever.

The end for the followers of Satan or Lucifer, who never was born to a mortal body and can never be, is to be forever at war as a resurrected being, because everyone gets resurrected, under the orders of Lucifer, the shade,
and forever without the opportunity to be involved in
creation.

There are billions of former followers of Christ here,
who have learned to love destruction. It's sad to see so many who will be lost to the dark side, who were so good
before.
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I absolutely LOVE how you conveniently leave all of the CONTEXT out of your accusations, and completely leave out the fact that those people who were killed, had completely VIOLATED a direct command of God.


Huh, so much about free will right? Sounds like tyrant to me and lucifer represents freedom then in that case...
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Quote:

"Huh, so much about free will right? Sounds like tyrant to me and lucifer represents freedom then in that case..."




I already knew that you were a Satanist (Luciferian if you prefer), but thank you for the affirmation.
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What a vipers nest of Satanic scum.

Have a nice day. And enjoy your remaining time.
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Let's make this simple.

The bible was written by dark skinned people who were being oppressed by people with white skin.

The Prophet Isaiah was making an observation about this when he coined the phrase which has been rendered Lucifer.
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I already knew that you were a Satanist (Luciferian if you prefer), but thank you for the affirmation.
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Some fools might get mad at them for their errors. However keep in mind this is a very sad thing. They wish to believe the father of lies as if he were a "freedom fighter". If anyone is to blame it is the christians.
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I've heard so many stories throughout my life regarding this 'lucifer'. Some say he is good some say he is evil. Some say he was satan before he feel. Some say he never fell, some say he fell because he wouldn't give up his chair to God, whom was tired. Some say he was herme's bestfriend, who would exchange philosophy with him often. Others say he is the bringer of knowledge and wisdom, and innocence. Other say he is the problem, as lucifuge flees from him. Others say he is a brother to Paymon/Paimon, who is in charge of protecting 2 kings. Others believe he was the original human being, who's home/world got blown up. Others believe he was a philosopher, eons ago, who in an world free of harm and danger and doubt, thought another way of living up (nonconforming to his), and imagined a life different from his, innocently (since it was all his imagination) he got caught up in his own whirlwind. Some say the whirlwind was started up by Satan (According to jesus Satan is nothing without lucifer) to fulfill his master plan, some think it was started by his Father, to show him a lesson. Others say he was Jesus, other say he was a babylonian king. Throughout all this confusion, who is lucifer. There are so many stories regarding this being, share some of your stories and opinion...
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I will give you a gift of what the followers of Lucifer think about him. Maybey you can join if you want to or maybe, maybe you will understand and see the truth
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly


Your jahve/baal infact kills more people in bible than satan.

Once more the people grow weary of starving and thirsting (who wouldn't?) and they dare to complain. God sends poisonous snakes to kill many of the people. - Numbers 21:6
When the enemy Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant (a magical box that the Israelites think God lived in), God sends a plague of hemorrhoids and mice to the Philistines (See Jehovah's Potty) who then give the Ark back to the Israelites. Silly Israelites, just can't resist the urge to look inside the box and God killed the entire city (50,070 men!) in response to their curiosity. - 1 Samuel 6:19
While transporting the Ark on a cart, the oxen pulling the cart shook the Ark and the cartdriver feared that the Ark may fall or be damaged so he reached out to steady it. God had warned that no one was to touch the Ark except for his specially privileged priests. It didn't matter that the cartdriver was only trying to protect the Ark, God got angry and killed the driver there on the spot. - 2 Samuel 6:7
King David was commanded by God not to conduct a census or count the number of Israelites (the reason God gave this command was that he had told Abraham that he would have so many children that they couldn't be counted and if David counted them, that would make God a liar.). The Bible tells us in one place that God got angry with Israel and made David count them (2 Samuel 24:1). In another place it says that Satan made David number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1). [Editor's note: We don't see the contradiction.] To make David pay for his "sin" of counting the people, God gives him a choice of 7 years of famine or being pursued by his enemies for 3 months or 3 days of pestilence. David leaves the choice up to God who chooses the pestilence and proceeds to kill 70,000 men. When God's angel of death reaches the capital city of Jerusalem, God "repented him of the evil" and made the angel stop killing. At least the Bible admits that the murders were "evil." - 2 Samuel 24:15-16
A man was warned by God not to eat or drink at a certain place, then a prophet lies to him and tells him that an angel said he could eat and drink at that place. The man trusts the prophet and God sends a lion to eat the man because he ate and drank there. Nothing happens to the prophet who lied. - 1 Kings 13:18
Jeroboam becomes the king of God's chosen people and allows the worship of idols. God vows that every member of his family will be slaughtered and left to be eaten by dogs and birds. God decides that the king's son (who is sick at the time) is the only one who is good enough to avoid the upcoming punishment so God rewards him by killing him right away instead of having him suffer along with the rest of the king's family. - 1 Kings 14:1-13
When a captain and his 50 men came to find the prophet Elijah, they asked for the man of God to come down. Elijah responded by saying "If I'm a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven and consume you." God gave Elijah the sign that he asked for and burned up the captain and his 50 men. Another captain was sent with 50 men and God repeats his fiery performance, burning them all to a crisp. - 2 Kings 1:10-11
When the Assyrians camped outside of the city of Jerusalem, God sent his angel to do his dirty work once more and 185,000 Assyrians were slaughtered in one night. Now that's an efficient angel. - 2 Kings 19:35
God threatens to destroy his wayward people because he is "weary of repenting." He tells them that if they take wives and have sons and daughters where they are living, "they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." - Jeremiah 15:6-7, 16:3-4
Not satisfied with this threat, God goes on to say that he will bring a sword among them to kill them and that he will destroy their cities. He then says that he will allow some of them to escape just so they will remember how terrible the Lord was. Those who are near will be killed with the sword and will starve in famine and God will kill those who are far away with disease, "And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that would do this evil unto them." Once more God admits that what he does is evil. God is finally telling the truth! - Ezekiel 6:3-13
Don't be mistaken about the evil of God's intentions, for he admits that his sword will go out against all flesh, both the righteous, right along with the wicked. - Ezekiel 21:3-5
God threatens to send armies after his chosen people in order to stone them and slay them with swords and kill their sons and daughters. - Ezekiel 23:46-47
In his excitement, God says that he will make a great bonfire out of the city of Jerusalem. Commanding, "Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." Once more, God reveals his bloody craving for human barbecue. - Ezekiel 24:9-10
True to his word, God kills his own people. One of the prophets cries out to God, "The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou has slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied." We couldn't have said it better ourselves. - Lamentations 2:21


Care to read your fucking bible for once and while? lol...







You are just another distorter of the truth. You are nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time you have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.


No one is distorting anything. It is written in your bible how bloodthirsty your God is. What type of God wants blood sacrifice? And is excited because smell of blood. Lol..but do as you wish, it is your life. It is kinda amazing how christians dont even know their own holy book.
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Finnish people are alright. You are relatives.
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go to www.urantia.org and use their search feature to get the TRUTH
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go to www.urantia.org and use their search feature to get the TRUTH
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Yeah, I already tryed pointing them toward "the truth" but they want to believe the lies.
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LOL!! Funny you should say that. Here is a short list of the worst of the worst, when it comes to sheer stupidity:


Netherlands (and all the Scandinavian countries)
Canaduh
Australia
UK



Looks like you came in second.
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Nothing pales in comparison to your ignorance and stupidity.
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I already knew that you were a Satanist (Luciferian if you prefer), but thank you for the affirmation.


Some fools might get mad at them for their errors. However keep in mind this is a very sad thing. They wish to believe the father of lies as if he were a "freedom fighter". If anyone is to blame it is the christians.
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I never said I was worshipping such entity or being. I have read bible couple of times myself, I was just pointing obvious flaws. Most people think it is ok if God slaughters babies and his servants if they dont obey him...they dont even think twice about it. Because they think it is his right to do so because he is !"SUPREME BEING" lol...
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Why do I even bother?
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I am just another distorter of the truth. I am nothing but a disposable servant of Satan.

Enjoy the time I have left, doing the will of the father of lies. The accuser of the brethren.

You is I and I is you. Be mindful of pointing fingers.





Don't be a retard, ya Libtard.
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It is said that the story of Lucifer is actually the symbolic story of the destruction of the planet Maldek.
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Why do I even bother?
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Egotisim and Vainty.
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I already knew that you were a Satanist (Luciferian if you prefer), but thank you for the affirmation.


Some fools might get mad at them for their errors. However keep in mind this is a very sad thing. They wish to believe the father of lies as if he were a "freedom fighter". If anyone is to blame it is the christians.


I never said I was worshipping such entity or being. I have read bible couple of times myself, I was just pointing obvious flaws. Most people think it is ok if God slaughters babies and his servants if they dont obey him...they dont even think twice about it. Because they think it is his right to do so because he is !"SUPREME BEING" lol...
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Read it again and you will know.

Tack för att du öppet erkände att du inte är en ateist. Alla dina vänner är ateister eller hur? De är inte det det är bara som du tror.

All scandinavian people are deeply in love with christs rules even though thay do not understand it.
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Venus.
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Lucifer/Satan/Lightbringer,all the same being.He is Hatered,and a Murderer,and a great liar.He Hates all humanity with no exceptions.But he has is followers who are twisted sick minded people who think they can share in his empire of death and destruction of humanity.He is the force behind all wars,he laughs at us because we are so stupid that we do his work for him by killing each other. He is not Jesus or Christ.He is a supernatural entity of hate nothing good comes from him or his supporters or followers,have none of him or those who support him,do not be deceived for he is the king of lies. Love Selly


Your jahve/baal infact kills more people in bible than satan.

Once more the people grow weary of starving and thirsting (who wouldn't?) and they dare to complain. God sends poisonous snakes to kill many of the people. - Numbers 21:6
When the enemy Philistines capture the Ark of the Covenant (a magical box that the Israelites think God lived in), God sends a plague of hemorrhoids and mice to the Philistines (See Jehovah's Potty) who then give the Ark back to the Israelites. Silly Israelites, just can't resist the urge to look inside the box and God killed the entire city (50,070 men!) in response to their curiosity. - 1 Samuel 6:19
While transporting the Ark on a cart, the oxen pulling the cart shook the Ark and the cartdriver feared that the Ark may fall or be damaged so he reached out to steady it. God had warned that no one was to touch the Ark except for his specially privileged priests. It didn't matter that the cartdriver was only trying to protect the Ark, God got angry and killed the driver there on the spot. - 2 Samuel 6:7
King David was commanded by God not to conduct a census or count the number of Israelites (the reason God gave this command was that he had told Abraham that he would have so many children that they couldn't be counted and if David counted them, that would make God a liar.). The Bible tells us in one place that God got angry with Israel and made David count them (2 Samuel 24:1). In another place it says that Satan made David number Israel (1 Chronicles 21:1). [Editor's note: We don't see the contradiction.] To make David pay for his "sin" of counting the people, God gives him a choice of 7 years of famine or being pursued by his enemies for 3 months or 3 days of pestilence. David leaves the choice up to God who chooses the pestilence and proceeds to kill 70,000 men. When God's angel of death reaches the capital city of Jerusalem, God "repented him of the evil" and made the angel stop killing. At least the Bible admits that the murders were "evil." - 2 Samuel 24:15-16
A man was warned by God not to eat or drink at a certain place, then a prophet lies to him and tells him that an angel said he could eat and drink at that place. The man trusts the prophet and God sends a lion to eat the man because he ate and drank there. Nothing happens to the prophet who lied. - 1 Kings 13:18
Jeroboam becomes the king of God's chosen people and allows the worship of idols. God vows that every member of his family will be slaughtered and left to be eaten by dogs and birds. God decides that the king's son (who is sick at the time) is the only one who is good enough to avoid the upcoming punishment so God rewards him by killing him right away instead of having him suffer along with the rest of the king's family. - 1 Kings 14:1-13
When a captain and his 50 men came to find the prophet Elijah, they asked for the man of God to come down. Elijah responded by saying "If I'm a man of God, then let fire come down from heaven and consume you." God gave Elijah the sign that he asked for and burned up the captain and his 50 men. Another captain was sent with 50 men and God repeats his fiery performance, burning them all to a crisp. - 2 Kings 1:10-11
When the Assyrians camped outside of the city of Jerusalem, God sent his angel to do his dirty work once more and 185,000 Assyrians were slaughtered in one night. Now that's an efficient angel. - 2 Kings 19:35
God threatens to destroy his wayward people because he is "weary of repenting." He tells them that if they take wives and have sons and daughters where they are living, "they shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." - Jeremiah 15:6-7, 16:3-4
Not satisfied with this threat, God goes on to say that he will bring a sword among them to kill them and that he will destroy their cities. He then says that he will allow some of them to escape just so they will remember how terrible the Lord was. Those who are near will be killed with the sword and will starve in famine and God will kill those who are far away with disease, "And they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that would do this evil unto them." Once more God admits that what he does is evil. God is finally telling the truth! - Ezekiel 6:3-13
Don't be mistaken about the evil of God's intentions, for he admits that his sword will go out against all flesh, both the righteous, right along with the wicked. - Ezekiel 21:3-5
God threatens to send armies after his chosen people in order to stone them and slay them with swords and kill their sons and daughters. - Ezekiel 23:46-47
In his excitement, God says that he will make a great bonfire out of the city of Jerusalem. Commanding, "Heap on wood, kindle the fire, consume the flesh, and spice it well, and let the bones be burned." Once more, God reveals his bloody craving for human barbecue. - Ezekiel 24:9-10
True to his word, God kills his own people. One of the prophets cries out to God, "The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou has slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed and not pitied." We couldn't have said it better ourselves. - Lamentations 2:21


Care to read your fucking bible for once and while? lol...
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The Israelites took strange wives who diluted the blood. There had to be culling to keep things in check.
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Lucifer is the anthropomorphization of a very beautiful concept. Lucifer bears the light that shines into the shadows of superstition, ignorance and fear. The light of education that Lucifer carries is the enemy of the ignorance and superstition that organized religions use to hold adherents in thrall. As a result of this many organized religions make up stories about Lucifer and present it as an evil entity that is to be feared. What they fear is the enlightenment of their members, who if they see into the dark corners of superstition will fall away from churches and stop paying the tithes and offerings that the priests and ministers need. They would then need to get honest work.
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Why do I even bother?


Egotisim and Vainty.
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Actually, no. I'm really only seeking to find wise responses. Instead people concentrate on nonsense and extraneous dogmas.
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It's an anthropomorphic concept used to demonize something you don't like.
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Yes.
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Let's make this simple.

The bible was written by dark skinned people who were being oppressed by people with white skin.

The Prophet Isaiah was making an observation about this when he coined the phrase which has been rendered Lucifer.
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....
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The Gods of the bible appear to actually be the prince of liars that have tricked people into worshiping them as gods.
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....

The Gods of the bible appear to actually be the prince of liars that have tricked people into worshiping them as gods.
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Playing both sides, good and bad cop...lol...
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Either way, God of bible is much worse with his all blood sacrifices, genocide....etc...Lord is man of war...


If you compare Satan in the bible to God. You can actually notice God is much worse lol....

The Gods of the bible appear to actually be the prince of liars that have tricked people into worshiping them as gods.


Playing both sides, good and bad cop...lol...
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Dunno, but when Satan called himself Yahweh, he was pulling for himself only.
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All scandinavian people are deeply in love with christs rules even though thay do not understand it.

Lucifers freemasons are falling in scandinavia. Nobody wants to join them anymore. I do not think its cause they've been exposed as luciferians. I think everybody just "instinctively" think they are all crap.
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"Who or what is lucifer? (Light Bearer/bringer)"





He is the one who deceived you into the clueless state that you now exist in.

Here Christard, open your bible and learn something about your Lovely God.

The Bible reveals an important, yet often overlooked trait of God's nature and that is his thirst for blood. From the beginning of his dealings with man he has shown his preference for spilled blood; he accepted Able's offering of sheep's blood and rejected Cain's offering of grains and plants (Genesis 4:3-5). God has told man that the shedding of blood is required to be forgiven of sins (Leviticus 17:11, Hebrews 9:22). In the Old Testament, millions of animals were slaughtered and their blood poured onto altars and burned in a futile attempt to please God. The smoke from the burning flesh and blood was such a sweet scent to God (Exodus 29:18, Leviticus 1:9), that his anger was appeased when he smelled the sweet, burning blood (Genesis 8:21) Even the human/god sacrifice of Jesus is compared to the sweet smelling barbecue of an animal (Epehsians 5:2). Why is blood so sweet to this vampiric God? Why is blood required to be spilled in order to receive forgiveness from this "merciful" God? Don't ask these questions, "just believe," you will be told. Besides why risk ending up in an eternal barbecue just because things smell a little
strange to you?


God sends fire and brimstone down onto the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, then kills Lot's wife when she looks back at the city by turning her into a pillar of salt. - Genesis 19:24-26
When a man is forced to have intercourse with his dead brother's wife (who God had recently killed), God's stark fist drops down and kills him also. (See Dirty, Disgusting Discharges) - Genesis 38:1-10
God kills uncounted humans and animals in Egypt, just so he can show off his great powers. (See Moses and Pharoh) - Exodus 12:29, 14:27

For more...if this doesnt make you think twice what type of being you are worshipping actually...
[link to luciferianliberationfront.org]
 Quoting: Mustis


God doesn't kill people. He warns people about what they can and cannot do under certain circumstances. Lot's wife
was warned, do not look back. She did and the result of that was evaporation.

God warned the people of Sodom and Gomorrah also, but they laughed in his face. There are levels of evil that he will not tolerate, and they were past it.

The laws of Moses, which you talk about from the old testament, were a kindness to the Israelites, freed from
bondage in Egypt, which he visited instead of destruction,
when they proved they could not deal with the normal
commandments.

The explanations were written by people who lived in another time, and they would not seem normal to you,
who live in these times. Our days would not seem sane to them.

You've got to look at a bigger picture. You've got to look outside yourself.





GLP