A Serious Question About Monkeys

We could not have evolved FROM monkeys, this is illogical.
No serious scientist has ever put forth this theory.
Because in order to evolve from something, the something would no longer exist.
And moneys exist.
We evolved alongside monkeys, from a similar type of species.

Why must the monkey die off as a species in order for evolution to take place. 2 species can certanly exist side by side in the same habitat.

A Poodle and a Beagle can live together in the same apartment under the same owner, and co-exist quite nicely.


There seems to be no law of nature saying that one speicies MUST die off to create another. That seems like a premise of conveniance to allow putting forth the idea of evolution.

It seems like trying to evolve an African black man from a monkey would end the discussion once and for all. Either it would work, or it would fail. Yet no one tries this easy experiment.

The RH-Negative Factor, HLA-B27+ Genetic Marker and Autoimmune Disease...Plus my story of the CHUCK! Please read!

"WE" are NOT Taught to KNOW just how different we ARE!

Here is some information about the HLA-B27 genetic marker that runs positive in my family for generations. This explains the reasoning for testing both the RH- Status of your blood and the HLA-B27 Genetic Marker if you have Undiagnosed Pain or Joint Issues or have an Autoimmune Disease.

Ankylosing Spondylitis and Rheumatoid Arthritis are just two of many autoimmune disease that may be more prevalent to those people who are tested positive for a genetic marker called HLA-B27 and which tend to lap over each other making for hard diagnosing of the conditions.

My theory that the Rh-Negative & Recessive Blood Factors are associated with HLA-B27 positive genetic marker readings, is based on the research that 85+% of individuals diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis or "AS"; happen to test positive for the HLA-B27 genetic marker, which is said to be had by only about 8% of the population or less, based on geographical location. I saw a connection because the blood type O- also appears in about 7% of the population and again that percentage varies by the geographical location of the population. After researching this connection and family history, I felt confidant enough to lay out my theory for my mothers' doctors, they listened and tested her for the genetic marker and it came back positive, as did mine, my children's and my grandmother's. Again this is a genetic marker that supposedly only 8% of the world carry.

You do not need to be Rh-Negative to come from an Rh- Blood line...like me. I am 1 of 11 kids and the only Rh- but my parents are both 1/2 breeds :) as in they have a Rh- RECESSIVE blood factor. Some interesting info.

1.) The HLA-B27 genetic marker is said to be had by approx. 8% of the world's population. Similarly Type O- blood is had by about 7% of the world. Both share traits that show their migration pattern through geographical location and ethnic background, nearly hand in hand.

2.) Rh- (- -) and Rh+ (+ +) people have different immune systems. Rh-Negative people have a stronger immune system response. Medical professional's don't even acknowledge people who are Rh (+ -) and the implications it may have on their individual immune system type.

3.) Copper and Inflammation - Copper in an important factor in the body's immune response. It is said that Rh- people are more cooper based and Rh+ people are more iron based. Since Auto immune diseases like AS can cause inflammation, I believe copper levels should be looked at more seriously, especially in relationship to the natural levels for that persons specific blood type. If iron is taken so seriously with anemia, why not look at the connection to copper, inflammation and neuropathy that so many of us complain of.

4.) We process CO2 more efficiently.

5.) We have Vitamin and Mineral Absorption Issues. Especially Vitamin D, B12, B6 and sometimes K, as well as Iron, Zinc and Copper Influxes and Imbalances.

There are other clues I used to put my theory together. So far, I have proven it correct in my family. My mother's doctors never tested her for HLA-B27 or auto immune until I approached them with this information. It was enough to make them take a look at it as a possibility and she was positive. My mother is HLA-B27+ and blood type O+, but she is really blood type OO+ - and to simplify it, her blood type becomes O+. So while she is Rh+...she is also Rh-. If this is not a true statement, she cannot be my mother.

I am type AO - - = Type A-

My hubby OO - + = Type O+

Kid 1 is AO - += Type A+

Kid 2 is OO - + = Type O+

I also believe that the disease manifests itself differently in symptom based on this theory, as it seems Rh- and Rh+ people show the predominance of certain issues and symptoms as a group. Meaning more Rh+ people have issues A,B,& C while Rh- people experience more of D, E, & F. I believe it would be much easier to see these trends with less confusion if there were 12 blood type classifications.

Rh-Positive Types: A+, B+, AB+ & O+

Rh-Negative Types: A-, B-. AB- & O-

Rh-Neutral Types: A+/-, B+/-, AB+/- & O+/-


Over time we've been given the almost unchanging statistics of:

15% are RH- and 85% are RH+

First of all, most people do not know their blood type...so where does this statistic come from???

Since we get one blood type and one blood factor from each parent - WE HAVE TWO.

If your 2 blood factors are -- they call you RH-
If your 2 blood factors are ++ they call you RH+
If your 2 blood factors are +- they still call your RH+ and
YOU ARE NOT.

You'd be a half breed :) 1/2 Rh+ and RH-. If Rh+ are built one way and Rh- are built a completely different way...What about the person in the middle - They RH+/-? They must be different as well. Our immune systems, transfer systems, oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, iron and copper levels and more!

My story of the Chuck... If a chicken (Rh++) and a duck (Rh--) try to mate, they do NOT create a CHUCK (Rh+/-)naturally....BUT if there was an animal called a CHUCK (RH+/-) it would have an easier time mating with both the chick (Rh++) and the duck (Rh--), because it is 1/2 of what it is trying to mate with...

I think the confusion in the body of the CHUCK Rh+/- creates a "dis-eased" condition.

I also think the stats have to be more like 15-20% Rh-, 25-30% RH+ and the rest 50-60% Rh+/-

Hope this helps you understand how I began down this road of research. My parents, siblings and kids are all CHUCKS....I am the only rare DUCK!

That is what I always say...I mean my great-great-great-great...grandparents and great-great-great-great grandkids will and have always seen monkeys; so until one looses all of its hair, stands up straight, structurally morphes its body and hands, starts speaking and walks out of a zoo....I cal Bullshit.

Because that's what "evolved from" means, once we were reptiles, amphibians.
However there is still reptiles and amphibians right?
We are just another species that went through that type of evolution.
We didn't evolve "from" them, every species has its own evolutionary process.
We are just 1 unique species.
When we were monkey like monkeys were probably goats or something.

Soooo there was like magical pixie dust placed on some monkeys only so they could evolve into humans....hmmmmm....nope, I cannot get on board with that. I do believe evolution happens, you know like a tadpole becomes a frog but not monkey to human; black, brown, yellow, white or otherwise.

I read your whole post. Very interesting theory. You may be onto something here about blood. It does not relate directly to monkeys and evolution, but it is a very interesting theory nonetheless.

So explain me....no one else can. I am Rh-Negative. They have ONLY been able to recreate it by cross species breeding and we share more with reptiles and other critters biologically than monkeys and we do not have the rhesus factor AND our body tries to kill offspring that is Rh+, as it is seen as a foreign object like a virus....explain this into the monkey story.

Thanks! It does relate to monkeys though. You cannot have a human evolution theory that says we came from monkeys and not include 15% of the population.

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Unfortunately its not really explainable, more theorizing it.
All life forms, specific individual species, have probably been blended from and into everything else at one time or another.
I mean we are talking 6 billion + years, its kind of hard to fathom.
There is bits left over, like the appendix for example from when we were solely herbivores.
I mean that was even longer ago than we can even imagine.
We were probably cows or something.

Lets say for conversation that there were monkey people and there were God's creation, Adam and Eve. How could they mate? 2 different species. Someone would have had to be 1/2 monkey man and 1/2 God's creation in order to get them to cross breed. I do not buy it....but I do know there are 4 different human species, if you will when we genetically look at the blood type and its distribution through the world. We have Rh+/+ and Rh-/- and then there are the half breeds and which side of them is stronger Rh+/- and Rh-/+ if you will.

This is a copy paste from my own reply on another thread but it is appropriate....

Racism is a false flag to distract us from the real human condition and the different "species", if you will of humans, not based on the color of there skin but the body the skin is wrappped around...

Rh+ and think the Rh-Negative Factor does not effect your life??

The current "powers that be" have all but completely wrote us the Rh-Negs out of current "public" medical science except when pregnant and they do not educate us on our differences; from super immune system, to iron vs. copper content and more.

We are different and they don't know why, so we get ignored and not treated for the bodies we have - but as the general public, which we are not.

Visit [link to www.RhNegativeRegistry.com] for more information and origin theories. Although, as of today's world, there is still no real knowledge of where we came into the picture.

What's the real conspiracy?

Think about it...WHY is it we only really get taught about Hitler killing Jewish people, not about the Roma Gypsy's or other cultures. Even now when France is again removing the Gypsy's the "Jews" still get all of the coverage!

Think about WHY a person would think blonde hair and blue eyes leads to superior humans or WHY he studied twins.

I think we've been DUPED by our history books and lead to believe a story created around small foundations of truth and corupted to tell "His-story"!

What is the REAL truth, WHAT is the REAL Conspiracy.

ALL of you RH+ people may think this DOES NOT effect you BUT a great portion of you are HIGHLY Mistaken!
The Rh-Negative Blood Factor is GENETIC and we have a Misunderstanding of our blood types IF we even KNOW what it is at all! And I dare you GLP to just try and get your doctor to test it if you don't know...WHAT A HASSLE!

We get one factor from mom and one from dad and each child may vary.

MOM is Type O- She is actually OO-- so lets say;
DAD is Type A+ He could be AA+- AA++ AO+- or AO--

If he is AA++
If she is AA--

The offspring will be AA+- meaning 1 from mom (A-) and one from dad (A+) the only options. SO the child is TYPE AA+- but will always be referred to as A+ because you are only Rh-negative if you have 2 negative Factors (--).

This child, maybe YOU are a Recessive Rh-Negative Blood Factor. Your children may one day be Rh- like me! This is a human condition ignored that effects medication, immune system, donor pools and more.

So what is the the real conspiracy?

Any of you experience lower back pain in the MORNING that improves with movement. How about Achilles Tendon pain, especially in the morning. How about rheumatoid arthritis? Auto Immune Disease - Crohn's, IBD, Colitis? If you suffer from some or all of these things, like my mother who is O+ but really OO+- for the long call name; how many medications do you want to take topped on top of each other to bandaid the conditions? Would it not be better to address the CAUSE!

By learning this STUFF....I have diagnosed Juvenile RA in my child and can NOW slow the progression of the disease.

I gave my child a 50 year head start on his health and physical condition by being PROACTIVE. I knew his pains were not growing pains.

And, appearantly the Doctor's at Phoenix Children's Hospital thought high enought of my theory to test for the HLA-B27 genetic marker, give x-rays and prescribe physical therapy for my kids...

So I guess you can think it is not important OR you can think they don;t tell us shit and maybe we should look for answers on our own. My mom suffered for 4 years and no doctor picked up on this until I proved it with documentation, demended her tested and guess what right again, picking out a genetic marker that 8% of the world has, with the help of common sense, family history and google. I guess doc's don't use goole...squeecky wheels are always assumed to need brake pads, sometimes it is a rotor, alignment or a bad drum...

Did you know there is a Patent on O-Negative Blood and it is used in a treatment for RH+ AIDS Patients to slow the progression of the disease 2-5 years.

If our Rh- Immune system is so strong it can kill our offspring, what if we could manipulate it to attack cancer?

Because of people like Hitler and words like Eugenics - this subject is Taboo! It does not have to be!

We can look at this information together, out in the open and figure out why we are diffent and if we can benefit each other better. Genetics can be a good thing when it is not ONLY in the hands of EVIL people.

When they pricked your child's or your heel in the hospital at birth, someone recieved your genetic information already, so it is out there, stored on a computer or in a file; depending on the state you live in, for 3 months to forever. Shouldn't you know more about your body than the state, government or "TPTB" do?

Sorry, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, theories and reasoning....but I for one do not feel I am an accidental growth of nature...I feel I am an on purpose...who's purpose, well that I do not know but an on purpose and designed creation for sure. Are you familiar with the Golden Ratio? Why is our foot purposefully the size of our inner forearm, elbow crack to wrist? Why is the circumference of our hand the length of our feet? I think one day, long ago, we were near perfect beings.

The human evolution that IS NOW occuring at a scary rate is BAD...cancers, autoimmune, disease...this is the human evolution that we can SEE happening over generations. We killed so many diseases like Mumps, Plague and Rhubella....but we have created just as many new conditions to replace them.

Very interesting post. What is your theory on addressing the cause for those so afflicted?

Why argue with moronic idiots, it’s what they want to bring you down to their level of stupidity.

What to me is interesting is what’s happening with intelligence with our species. By examining the Religious Right, it seems we are going headlong down into the shit-hole.

I was watching this political debate with this woman running for senate that had no clue about the separation of church and state, and why it’s so dangerous to religious freedom to create a Christian theocracy.

The most frightening thing to me is that the Tea Party candidates are so popular, because that means the level of intelligence in the U.S. has dropped to their level.

Basically what I am seeing proves beyond a doubt that we all are fucked.

I would say abundant food accounts for over-breeding, and genetic intelligence flaws, although natural selection will kick in with the upcoming resource wars.

I suppose one good thing to come out of World War III will be that people finally begin to realize that Middle Eastern monotheism is very dangerous.

The Rh+ and Rh- bodies are different, Co2 transfer, immune system, copper levels, iron levels, light sensitivity, pregnancy, vitamin and mineral absorbsion and deficiency.

I think we need to study the 4 types of human bodies and see were each body sits naturally and balance from there, throw away the big pharm prescription pills that just mask the symptom with a bandaid but do not get to the cause and balance it naturally.

If I naturally have a high copper level, it can lower my iron level which can effect my zinc - all related to the immune system. If I have low copper, I can also have iron and zinc imbalances.

Science cannot explain the origin of the Rh-Negative People. But if we play 20 questions to find out "Who you are & Where do you live" the inner earth or TSHTF Cave dwellers may be an explaination for the Rh- Factor. Food for thought!!!!

RH-Neg Differences:

1. We have a stronger immune system.

Ex - This could occur from us being in close proximity to each other in a small area where infections and viruses are passed back and forth eventually building a natural immunity, which eventually reshaped our total immune system response.

2. Autoimmune Conditions and the HLA-B27 genetic marker.

Ex - We are prone to autoimmune conditions and to a degree seem to be almost allergic to the environment, some with food others malabsorbtion, vit deficiency etc. Also the immune system may be less actively fighting disease in a more open environment and therefore it turns on the body.

3. We tend to be fair skinned and light eyed, as well as having Melanin imbalances and Vit. D Deficiency

Ex - This could be because of a long time dwelling away from the exposure to the sun.

4.) We process CO2 more efficiently.

Ex. - Lock 10 people in an air tight room and with every exhale the air becomes more CO2 and less Oxygen, this could result form living in an underground area with limited exposure to new high oxygen air to enter. We would've had to learn to breath the new environmental air, just as we all learned to survive in amniotic fluid in the womb, the body adjusts. We also tend to be shallow breathers.

5.) We tend to have Iron/Copper imbalances.

Ex - This could either result from food environment or living closer to the magnetic core of the earth or the inner sun

Here is why it could be important. If there is an inner earth it would be a different environment and protected from the effects that we could feel from outside space influences like asteroid, comets, meteors and the sun...

If you are familiar with the Golden Ratio and Fibonacci Codes AND have ever sliced open an orange or an apple, they are built by this natural equation and they have an exterior, interior, vein-like cavities and a core. Why would the creator build everything natural on the planet this way and not the planet itself...

If you take your foot and put it on your forearm, your toes should reach the base of your wrist and your heal should cradle at the inner creek of your elbow. If you wrap a sock around your FIST heal to toe, it will fit your foot.

This measurements and creation tactics seem to be done vary on purpose and who knows where that stops. If this thread was mythbusters - I would say plausible!

It is a different approach to an age old question...where do Rh-Negative Fit into the whole story, as Darwin leaves us out.

Rather than ask where the Rh-Negative people came from, we are asking where would the Rh-Negative Body live naturally to have these features.

If I say, I have 4 legs, long hair, drool, sleep on a floor, poop outside and get parvo; you are likely to conclude that I am a dog.

So if an Rh-Negative Person processes CO2 more efficiently, has a lower body temperature, a sensitivity to light while prone to light eyes and skin, a very strong immune system, increase autoimmune issues, breathes more shallowly, is more nocturnal in nature, eats a different diet to stay in optimal health, has protein variation on the blood cells for RH+, etc. Where would this Physical body live most prosperously and/or what kind of environment would cause these difference to mutate and manifest in a human body.

You can read more Origin theories and shared traits on my site and I am getting ready to add links to read everything I have researched in a very organized fashion. [link to www.RhNegativeRegistry.com] please bookmark it.

FYI, My fingers do not keep up with my though process, I can't spell and I abuse punctuation; I have gotten over it - I hope you can too! :)

I would love to hear some opinions on my Rh-Negative Theory in consideration to the inner earth theory or a deluge situation, etc..

If we do not know the natural state of a persons body and WHY it is that way - how can we expect to fix it?

Yes it should be theoretically possible to do so if the type of monkeys which are our closest relative would actually still be around, but it would require several thousand generations at least and not the few generations you claim it would need since you are comparing them to dog breeds :S (better analogy would be to breed up a Chihuahua to be the size of a danish dog without interbreeding it with other dog kinds, still sure it would only take a "few" generations?).

But I got one for you, why don't you actually provide statistical or empirical evidence that your God actually exists and was responsible for writing whatever holy text you believe? Oh wait then you wouldn't call it faith anymore...

So Americans and Ausies can't have come from Europe because Europeans still exist?

Interesting... Did a good just poof them into existence as well?

Oh and by all accounts we still ARE monkeys, just as snakes are still lizards.

FYI, my site looks funky tonight - I just got in from the hospital and saw it. Please check it tomorrow, as I just emailed the hosting company to let them know there is an issue with the appearence, everything is streched out and weird. sorry, should be fixed by morning.

You just don't get it obviously.
Like the retards on youtube who attempt to make videos, or the retards who make porno's they spend 15 videoing someones elbow thinking the effects look nice.
People who think they are special, bust are just another average dullard.

Your premise is incorrect.

Apes and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor, humans did not arise from monkeys nor apes.

This is an unfortunate common myth-representation of Evolution.

It is most probable that monkeys and apes could be bred or even naturally evolve into a hominid-like intelligent tool using species, however they will not develop into humans Homo sapiens.

The Family tree of primates is found here: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Were Hominidae family breaks down into ape, human, etc.

Gorilla(as one example) broke away from the Hominidae line around homininae The human line continued to hominini then homo. Gorilla continued on to gorillini then evolved to gorilla.

[link to www.associatedcontent.com] Goes into greater depth on the split off the the Homo species (Homo sapiens, homo eretcus, homo Neanderthals (Neanderthal), etc.)

At the same time modern apes and monkeys were being descended from their family line.

1. The family Hylobatidae consists of 4 genera and 12 species of gibbons, including the Lar and the Siamang, collectively known as the "lesser apes";
2. The family Hominidae consisting of gorillas, chimpanzees, orangutans, and humans, collectively known as the "great apes"

However, branching from the line of hominidae resulted in the great apes, humans are but one branch from that earlier 'trunk'

I read your whole site. It is very well done, and looks like a great humanitarian effort too.

If anyone is interested in this very interesting blood type, your site looks like the go-to place for information about it.

:-)

We are evolving INTO monkeys, that's for sure. :)

You see, the reason you want to know this is to prove whatever religious book you have on mind. :)

Just so you know, poodles and beagles are the same species.

Well, it could also di-prove what I beleive. In which case I would rethink my beleifs about this.

But, it seems strange that no-one has tried an experiment of this nature.

So many proponents of evolutionist simply rely on FAITH. Faith that there are missing links. Faith that those who have dug up old bones are not hoaxing the scientific community (this does happen). Ect...

With a proper experiment it seems like the theoretical veiw that evolution has taken place could either be proven or disproven quite easily.

Yet, this is never undertaken, or even discussed.

The Creation side seems more open to provable scientific facts then the evolution side in this argument. To me the Evolution side seems to be hiding their heads in the sand as far as recreatable scientific experiments involving monkeys goes.

Why not put the teory to a test of science rather than try to persuade people to have blind faith in an untried theory?

Thank you!

That's because every theory lets others control and manipulate your mind. We live here and now, and you chose what exactly you put into your mind. In case you're interested to know how the things have been made in the past, then why don't you ask why that was done? And I don't think the reason it was done this way is to give you the chance to waste your time asking unnecessary questions instead of simply enjoying your life while you can. :)