MARK OF THE BEAST RIDDLE SOLVED!----MUST READ!

Thanks for the link! I haven't seen this one yet but heard about it. I guess I should read up on it since it seems to pop up a lot.

Welcome

yes....

much wisdom can be found with the Hopi....

nuclear symbol for carbon 12 - 666, symbol for carbon 7 - 661, carbon 12 what we are now, we are the beast ?, carbon 7 what we will become once radiated ? solar event ?

whats the oldest known culture / religion ?

Sumerian ? / not islamic !?/ scriptures carved in rock ! no reprints ! ?

carbon 22....

From the article


"For those who seek the answers, however, the Bible does provide some crucial information related to this mark. First and foremost, according to Scripture, the Mark is essentially used as a means to distinguish the followers of the Beast from the followers of God. By accepting the Mark of the Beast one displays his dedication to the Antichrist, and at the same time, his opposition to the God of the Bible.

The Scriptures also tell us that those who take the Mark will be subject to some unique benefits, as well as some extreme punishments. For instance, the Book of Revelation speaks of a time when the only ones allowed to buy or sell will be those who have taken the Mark of the Beast: “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark…” (Revelation 13:17). Conversely, we learn that these same people will be subject to God’s divine punishment for taking the Mark: “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God…” (Revelation 14:10).

With the advent of modern technology, some students of
prophecy have assumed that the Mark may somehow be related to a type of invisible bar code system, or perhaps a microchip implant with the number 666 encoded into it. Although, these scenarios do not seem very realistic or practical when one considers the fact that much of the world’s population—in particular many of the remote
areas in the Middle East—have yet to see a credit card, or a bar code scanner for that matter.

Still other problems crop up that seem to render the technology based scenarios implausible. To begin with, there is the obvious difficulty associated with implanting untold numbers of people with a microchip, or marking them with some type of bar code.

Further, if a microchip tracking system became a reality, it is conceivable that one could approach a person who is sleeping—or in an otherwise vulnerable position—and literally force the mark upon them, thus labeling them as a follower of the Beast without the individual ever having a choice in the matter. The Bible makes it clear that those who take the Mark will be cast into Hell. Considering this, it does not stand to reason that God would allow this
fate to befall those who were forced to take the Mark, and therefore robbed of the opportunity to exercise their free will and refuse it."

thanks !

The sumerian theory is interesting, but I have never seen the actual thousands of scripts they have found. Have you?

My other problem is Sumerian is a dead language. The only interpretations of these stones that hardly anyone has seen is a guess at best.


Also never said islam was old?

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i find Arkaim interesting....


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note the point '66.66'

and that point is on a 'G'.... (look at the picture upside down)



Solomon....

There is a movie recemtly out called the fourth kind, pretty freaky, about alien abductions in anchorage, was live footage and reinactments, they regressed abductees past a block and what happens is trippy, sumerian language, annunaki/ aliens, live footage of abduction happening on police cam,
Aliem/annunaki voice (my child(taking a kid) I am God) trip !

This a brilliant consideration.

Thanks for posting this thread!

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Instead of a hasty assumption that the author of the origional symbol messed it up in translation from an angel,
I think an indepth study of the exact moves made to take the image and rearrange it to say that, may possibly reval more than bad printing.
just a hunch.

Dude Really?
I saw the movie and it was a cool movie, but IT WAS NOT BASED ON TRUTH. Look it up. It was a hollywood stunt to sell the movie and it pissed some people in Alaska off.

Abu Hurairah reported that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said, "The Prophets are like brothers; they have different mothers but their religion is one. I am the closest of all the people to Jesus son of Mary, because there is no other Prophet between him and myself. He will come again, and when you see him, you will recognise him. He is of medium height and his colouring is reddish-white. He will be wearing two garments, and his hair will look wet. He will break the cross, kill the pigs, abolish the Jizyah and call the people to Islam. During his time, Allah will end every religion and sect other than Islam, and will destroy the Dajjal. Then peace and security will prevail on earth, so that lions will graze with camels, tigers with cattle, and wolves with sheep; children will be able to play with snakes without coming to any harm. Jesus will remain for forty years, then die, and the Muslims will pray for him.

Ibn Masud reported that the Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said, "On the night of the Isra (night journey), I met my father Abraham, Moses and Jesus, and they discussed the Hour. The matter was referred first to Abraham, then to Moses, and both said, 'I have no knowledge of it. Then it was referred to Jesus, who said, 'No-one knows about its timing except Allah; what my Lord told me was that the Dajjal will appear, and when he sees me he will begin to melt like lead. Allah will destroy him when he sees me. The Muslims will fight against the Kafirs, and even the trees and rocks will say, "O Muslim, there is a Kafir hiding beneath me - come and kill him!" Allah will destroy the Kafirs, and the people will return to their own lands. Then Gog and Magog will appear from all directions, eating and drinking everything they find. The people will complain to me, so I will pray to Allah and He will destroy them, so that the earth will be filled with their stench. Allah will send rain which will wash their bodies into the sea. My Lord has told me that when that happens, the Hour will be very close, like a pregnant woman whose time is due, but her family do not know exactly when she will deliver

Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: The Dajjal (Anti-Christ) would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls. (Muslim)

Abu Hurairah (radiallahu anhu) said, "The Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam) said, 'The Hour will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them. When a Jew hides behind a rock or a tree, it will say, "O Muslim, O servant of Allah! There is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!" All the trees will do this except the box-thorn (al-Gharqad), because it is the tree of the Jews.

The Jews mentioned in the Hadith are the Zionist (armed) Jews who FIGHT alongside the anti-Christ against the Muslims, not innocent Jews and Zionists. Not only Jews will be defeated but the Kufar who are occupying Muslim lands with injustice and they will be sent packing back from where they came.

1. This is END TIMES prophecy that deals with only 70,000 Jews who follow the Anti-Christ, not a madate to exterminate all Jews.

2. It signifies a military confrontation.

Explain?

I don't think the author Apostle John messed it up at all. He had a vision of the future, in which he was told by an angel to write down what he saw.


From the Article

"In his vision, rather than being shown the Greek letters that represent the number 666, John may have actually
been shown Arabic words and symbols, which he could not
understand, but nevertheless faithfully recorded to the best of his ability.

Allowing for this possibility, it seems likely that the scribes, who were later commissioned to copy the original text, would have been unable to recognize the foreign (Arabic) words and symbols as recorded by John. Faced with these odd looking characters, they might have done exactly what many people in their position would do, which is to assume a mistake, or perhaps some poor penmanship on John’s part. Thus, in an effort to make sense of these markings,
they may have chosen to slightly modify them into the Greek
characters that they most closely resembled."

I could care less what the Quran has to say.

Last Edited by The Way of Enoch on 11/19/2010 07:10 PM

Thank you proving point about BREAKING THE CROSS. Symbol of Christ.



By the way to the translation of Kafir.

Kafir (Arabic: كافر kāfir; plural كفّار kuffār) is a term used in a Islamic doctrinal sense, usually translated as "unbeliever" or "disbeliever", or sometimes "infidel".


Thank you for helping to prove my point about muslims there buddy.

Crusaders werent bad guys?

Hey, MORAN, 666 is the number of MAN.

Look it up!

oh tru, didn't realise that, yea was a trip movie, lol, still guessing the movie script musta based some story line from sumerian stories.

that is ONE definition....but not the ONLY definition....

The point of the post is the original translation of the mark of the beast in Revelations is in Greek. Most say it means 666, some say 616. The symbols look like Arabic and translate to "In the name of Allah,” followed by two crossed swords which is a universal symbol of Islam.


What that means is this growing cult of billions of muslim people that do crazy shit like blow themselves up now have a logical reason behind their madness.

They worship the devil or anti-christ according to this guy in the article and I believe he is right. It explains what is wrong with these people 100%

Yes it was if the translations of some are right.

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I'm familiar with Shoebat and his theory. However, I'm not 100% sold on it yet. If you haven't read his book on this subject I suggest that you do. It was an interesting read.

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The beast will be the Holy Roman Empire which is coming back and will be headed by Germany.

All the info you will ever need on the mark of the beast. Don't forget, Islam was CREATED by the Catholic church. They BOTH are 666. There is a third 666 also. Guess who.


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VICARIUS FILII DEI
666, The Number of the Beast


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Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Note that according to verse 17, there are three different characteristics that distinguish the beast:

his mark (of authority)
his name
the number of his name (666).
It might be argued by some that 666 must be applied to one man's name, and that this will then help identify him as the antichrist. I would offer the following verse to show that 666 need not apply solely to a man's name:

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

The same Greek word translated as name (onoma: G3686) that appears in Revelation 13:17-18 is also used in chapter 19:16, so clearly the word can also apply to a title, and not just one man's name. Now, we are told that it takes a certain understanding and wisdom to discern just how this number is actually applied. Based on the fact that 666 can apply to a title, below are several words and phrases that have been put forth over the centuries as probable solutions to the enigma of 666.



GREEK
The numeric equivalents of Greek letters can also be found in the Encyclopedia Britannica under "Languages of the World", Table 8.

The ancient Greek word for "the Latin speaking man" is LATEINOS

L = 30 lambda
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
E = 5 epsilon
I = 10 iota
N = 50 nu
O = 70 omicron
S = 200 sigma
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666

NOTE: Latin is the official language of the Roman Catholic Church. Church Documents are usually published first in Latin, and then translated from the Latin into other languages. The association of "Lateinos" with 666 was first suggested by Irenæus (ca. 130-202 A.D.) who proposed in his Against Heresies that it might be the name of the fourth kingdom in Daniel 7:7.

Then also Lateinos has the number six hundred and sixty-six; and it is a very probable [solution], this being the name of the last kingdom [of the four seen by Daniel]. For the Latins are they who at present bear rule: I will not, however, make any boast over this [coincidence].

Source: Against Heresies, by Irenæus, Book 5, chapter 30, paragraph 3.
St. Irenaeus biography online at the New Advent Catholic web site.

The ancient Greek for
"The Latin Kingdom" is
HE LATINE BASILEIA
BASILEIA is Strong's # G932 The ancient Greek for
"Italian Church" is
ITALIKA EKKLESIA
EKKLESIA is Strong's # G1577 And in ancient Greek
the word APOSTATES And in ancient Greek
the word for "tradition"
PARADOSIS
Strong's # G3862
H = 0 (transliterated)
E = 8 eta

L = 30 lambda
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
I = 10 iota
N = 50 nu
E = 8 eta


B = 2 beta
A = 1 alpha
S = 200 sigma
I = 10 iota
L = 30 lambda
E = 5 epsilon
I = 10 iota
A = 1 alpha

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666
I = 10 iota
T = 300 tau
A = 1 alpha
L = 30 lambda
I = 10 iota
K = 20 kappa
A = 1 alpha


E = 5 epsilon
K = 20 kappa
K = 20 kappa
L = 30 lambda
E = 8 eta
S = 200 sigma
I = 10 iota
A = 1 alpha

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666
A = 1 alpha
P = 80 pi
O = 70 omicron
ST = 6 stigma*
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
E = 8 eta
S = 200 sigma

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666

* Stigma is a now obsolete Greek character, but it appears in the New Testament in Rev 13:18 to give the value 666 (chi xi stigma - See Strong's Concordance, # G5516).

P = 80 pi
A = 1 alpha
R = 100 rho
A = 1 alpha
D = 4 delta
O = 70 omicron
S = 200 sigma
I = 10 iota
S = 200 sigma

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666







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LATIN

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NUMERAL NAME VALUE
I unus 1
V quinque 5
X decem 10
L quinquaginta 50
C centum 100
D quingenti 500
M mille 1000


VICARIUS FILII DEI
THE LITERAL MEANING: VICARIUS - substituting for, or in place of
FILII - means son
DEI - means God



V = 5 F = no value D = 500
I = 1 I = 1 E = no value
C = 100 L = 50 I = 1
A = no value I = 1 --------
R = no value I = 1 501
I = 1 --------
U/V = 5 53
S = no value
-------- 112 + 53 + 501 = 666

112



DUX CLERI
translated means Captain of the Clergy

D = 500
U = 5
X = 10

C = 100
L = 50
E = no value
R = no value
I = 1
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666


LUDOVICUS
translated means Vicar of the Court

L = 50
U = 5
D = 500
O = no value
V = 5
I = 1
C = 100
U = 5
S = no value
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666





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HEBREW

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The numeric equivalents of Hebrew letters can be found in the Encyclopedia Britannica under "Languages of the World", Table 50.

ROMIITH
means the Roman Kingdom

R = 200 resh
O = 6 waw (vav)
M = 40 mem
I = 10 yod
I = 10 yod
TH = 400 taw
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666


ROMITI
means the Roman Man

R = 200 resh
O = 6 waw (vav)
M = 40 mem
I = 10 yod
T = 400 taw
I = 10 yod
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666

Will read this website later tonight when get a chance. Thanks for input.