*** Obama's Birth Certificate Debunked Already ***Proof*** | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224261 United States 04/27/2011 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why an allegedly fake BC would be released by the WH makes no sense. There has to be something else we are missing maybe. Quoting: Mysterious StrangerTO KEEP THE ISSUE ABOUT THE BIRTHA AS TRUMP CALLS IT AND NOT ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL FACT THAT HE IS INELIIGABLE BECAUSE HIS DAD OBAMA SNR WAS NEVER AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND TO STOP THE FACT COMING OUT IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IN THE SAME MAGNTUDE AS THE BIRTHA THAT OBAMA HAS BEEN USING A DEAD MANS SSN ISSUED FROM A STATE OBAMA NEVER WAS BORN LIVED OR WORKED IN. Because when you type in all caps people take you more seriously. |
sum_peeps User ID: 1076828 United States 04/27/2011 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC: Quoting: Dark Zen“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ok Birther Haters !!! Watcha got????? What what what ?!?!? Thanks to Charlie's Angel for this ! Antepartum cervical cerclage operations. Analysis at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital from 1957 through 1966. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] Well done. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224261 United States 04/27/2011 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of course it's fake, why would he take this long to show it and have Mondays date stamped on it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359668Why isn't Trump looking into the fact that before Obama was senator of Illinois that he said himself that he was born in Kenya and could not run for president. How many papers reported: Kenyan Born Senator Barack Obama Because one, it's probably delusional wishful thinking, and twisting of the facts by you, and on your second point, because the newspaper wouldn't have special knowledge of where Obama was born (they are not an all knowing being) so it was most likely a journalism mistake. Hope my comment didn't sound negative, just an honest explanation. A report about a Kenyan born in Kenya in a Kenyan newspaper. Why would this be a journalist making a mistake? I believe he is talking about the birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224261 United States 04/27/2011 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you guys. BIRTHERS GRASPING for anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335808You forgot to throw in RACIST. Birthers are racists. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
T. Wills User ID: 1305865 United States 04/27/2011 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I brought this up at work today, and was promptly called a racist. I was shocked. This lady was so mad at the thought of the discussion. The Light Sessions are free-form Spiritually based discussions by a revolving cast of Truth seekers [link to thelightsessions.podbean.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359871 Netherlands 04/27/2011 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've got to be kidding.... He wouldn't have been born in the children's hospital dufus...he would have been born in the Kapi‘olani Maternity Home. I'm not even an Obama supporter but you people are moronic. A children's hospital is for children who are already born. But a maternity home would be a place for pregnant mothers. And just perhaps, the maternity home was DBA "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" before they ACQUIRED Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. Grow up already. |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wikipedia says that in 1978 the name changed to Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Obama's BC says Kapiolani Maternity Home which has been in existence since 1890. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359765Both bc's from the time say the exact same hospital name for the umpteenth time. I guess Susan Nordyke's is fake too? That's what the OP was trying to claim. I am not claiming this is ULTIMATE PROOF.... Is IS proof to me that something doesnt look right.. that's all... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359816 United States 04/27/2011 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wikipedia says that in 1978 the name changed to Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Obama's BC says Kapiolani Maternity Home which has been in existence since 1890. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359765Both bc's from the time say the exact same hospital name for the umpteenth time. I guess Susan Nordyke's is fake too? That's what the OP was trying to claim. I am not claiming this is ULTIMATE PROOF.... Is IS proof to me that something doesnt look right.. that's all... ok, the horse is dead, stop beating it. Aren't we dieing from radiation or something important? |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EPIC FAIL Quoting: sum_peepsHe was born at Kapiolani Maternity Home, which is the same as Kapiolana Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. You are an idiot, that is what it was called before it merged with the children's hospital and changed to Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. All you did was prove that the document is historically accurate. You Could be right.. So explain to me please.... how does Kauikeolani Children's Hospital play into this all then ? It was a separate institution that merged with Kapiolani Maternity Home(name of obamas BC). The two merged in 1978 and gave birth to Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children. I will illustrate. Obama's Birth Hospital, Kapiolani Maternity Home(1890-1978)+ Obama's not Birth Hospital, Kaukeolani(?-1978)= a fusion of Obama's Birth Hospital and not birth hospital, Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children(1978-present) ok... I can buy that but then It raises another question. Did you read my post about how Jeff Rense explained it??? What and why was the Gynecological Name added ? But even if this checks out to be ok.... the others here have brought up planty of Other great questions to be answered... I still think it is fake. Peace ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1349677 United States 04/27/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I brought this up at work today, and was promptly called a racist. I was shocked. This lady was so mad at the thought of the discussion. Quoting: T. WillsI was raised to not talk about politics or religion in polite company. Thank god for GLP, so I can get this shit off my chest, bitches! Muahahaha. |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! Quoting: CaptainHowdyHere's another Hawaiian BC from 1962... AND IT'S CLEARLY FAKE TOO... [link to omgq.com] 1. The Street Address in section 7d is lighter in color. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 2. There are suspicious scribblings in section 7e. 3. The "R" in "Engr" in section 7f is clearly darker than the other letters. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 4. The "LDIER" in "Soldier" in section 12a is clearly darker than the other letters. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 5. There is a very suspicious scribble in section 16. 6. The first name of the Doctor that is typed in section 19 is clearly lighter than the other parts of his name. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 7. The "MD" in Doctor's signature in section 19 is clearly darker than the other letters. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 8. The "2" in "1962" in section 20 is clearly darker than the other numbers. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. 9. The "2" in "1962" in section 22 is clearly darker than the other numbers. IT'S OBVIOUSLY PASTED IN LATER USING PHOTOSHOP. It seems that there must be an epidemic of fake BC in Hawaii from that time period. Either that or a whole lot of you just plain have SHIT FOR BRAINS. LMAO... Funny ! |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1020743Idols on tonight, just sayin! if this was fucking Syria or Iran the people were going to take the streets and have a revolution! we just gonna swallow this shit as usual. Um, only a handful of you idiots actually believe the BC is fake or the POTUS wasn't born in the USA. Go ahead and get it started. I'm sure your fellow righteous patriots will join you. Grab your gun and start waving it around as you march down the street screaming slogans. lol birthers marching down the street with guns... call it... THE BIRTHOCALYPSE!!! WOOT!!! then we shoot those terrorist fools and move on. hehe, i likey. |
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Nailer45 User ID: 1358308 United States 04/27/2011 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The obamatards will never believe their false messiah obammy is not a Natural born US citizen as that truth would crush their will to live.. I say we deport obama and all his supporters to Kenya tha way they can always be with their false messiah and obama will be back home in his place of birth.. Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 53% SAY BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FORGED! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1009463Vote in this poll to prove that the majority of people call BULLSHIT on the fake certificate! [link to www.gazette.com] Current results: YOUR VIEW Is Obama's long-form birth certificate real? Yes, it's the real deal 31% No, it is probably forged 53% Don't know 6% Don't care 10% Total Votes: 1465 UR right... It doesn't' really matter.... the Bankers keep paying our elected officials to screw the herd... The Biggest Lie is that anyone believes that IT EVER CHANGED ! It was this way thousands of years ago... and it's this way today ! That's the Unbelievable part... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1224261 United States 04/27/2011 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The obamatards will never believe their false messiah obammy is not a Natural born US citizen as that truth would crush their will to live.. Quoting: Nailer45Yeah, he somehow managed to slide past immigration for 40+ years, got a passport, a driver's license, be elected to state and national senate and POTUS. So true. We have a whole lot emotionally invested this unlike you cool calculated impartial truth seekers. |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dont miss the proof [link to s668.photobucket.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309466That looks more real to me than this other one. Thanks AC ! |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've got to be kidding.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359871He wouldn't have been born in the children's hospital dufus...he would have been born in the Kapi‘olani Maternity Home. I'm not even an Obama supporter but you people are moronic. A children's hospital is for children who are already born. But a maternity home would be a place for pregnant mothers. And just perhaps, the maternity home was DBA "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" before they ACQUIRED Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. Grow up already. U can't really say for sure.... We don't know the whole story... Would you pass a hospital to get to another one if your wife was in labor? |
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Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *Sits back and laughs at all the stupid birthertards* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349677Glad we could amuse u... |
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Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMPEACH O.B.A.M.A. ..... Do it right next time GLENN BECK for president 2012 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359886Uhhhh Yeah.....no |
pj_whoopie User ID: 919528 United States 04/27/2011 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to jumpinginpools.blogspot.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359637 United States 04/27/2011 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you guys. BIRTHERS GRASPING for anything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1335808You forgot to throw in RACIST. Birthers are racists. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] How better for a shill to try and make a point? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359686 United States 04/27/2011 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From youtube explaining why there are layers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359558It's called OCR (optical character recognition). Acrobat and many scanners do this by default. It detects letters and words on the page and allows you to add selectable text to the document without having to type it in manually. Notice how when you hide a layer, it's white behind it? If it was truly forged, you wouldn't see any of the background missing. It's white because it doesn't know what's behind the text BECAUSE THE TEXT WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS SCANNED. You guys ALMOST had something, almost... Not. Not at all, in most image modification programs if you copy something onto something else it will erase what it was copied on - it'll turn white. I don't know if this is a fraud either way - it is suspicious for sure though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358322 Australia 04/27/2011 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would mean that Susan Nordyke's BC, used as a base-line of what a real one looks like from the time of Obama's birth, is also fake - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229[link to www.wnd.com] Susan's might also be fake if the hospital's name hadn't changed until 1978. [link to www.wnd.com] MAYBE all the certificates are generated on demand by a computer, like it says on this web page: [link to www.wnd.com] Maybe they didn't store scans of the original certificates at all. Maybe they issued numbers to each hospital in Hawaii when they set up the system. When they were doing the data entry, maybe they just entered the number of the Kapiolana Maternity Hospital, because when they made the system, the hospitals had already merged. So they just used the merged hospital for everybody born in those hospitals. Maybe if the hospital changed its name again, and a few months after that he got another copy of his certificate, the hospital name will be different again. Maybe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359918 Australia 04/27/2011 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See? This is why the administration never wanted to release the 'original' in the first place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277549The people who think Obama's an illegal alien are going to think it no matter what they're shown. It doesn't matter if you guys see the original birth certificate or not. Nothing will convince you of his 'legitimacy.' Blah, blah, blah, I know you're just hardnosed truthseekers and concerned citizens who are exposing fraud and corruption, yada, yada, yada. Spare me the bizarre rationalizations for your fixation. You just can't handle the idea that a black guy is actually president. FFS it has nothing to do with race or color . come on now. |