*** Obama's Birth Certificate Debunked Already ***Proof*** | |
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Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113183That right there is the biggest mistake!! Also Kenya was NOT Kenya in 1961 - it was named: British East Africa Protectorate didnt become Kenya until December 1963! 1960 map of Africa, courtesy NatGeo. Kenya it is. [link to www.maps.com] Yep... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1337927 United States 04/27/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081851 this right here is the smoking gun...how can anyone with design experience not see how easy this is prove that it's fake with Illustrator. Obviously whoever they hired didn't cover their tracks very good and didn't realize how anyone with a simple two year degree in design could prove this. Or, maybe they did realize that they were leaving tracks that could be followed. What if this was sloppily created on purpose for some grand plan that TPTB have or maybe someone on the inside that was involved with the fabrication wanted to leave clues that this was not a real BC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359267 United Kingdom 04/27/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC: Quoting: Dark Zen“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ok Birther Haters !!! Watcha got????? What what what ?!?!? Thanks to Charlie's Angel for this ! OP: sorry to burst your bubble but all birth certificates from that time had the same name. unless you can show some that didnt this is a none issue. can anyone find a birth certificate from that year with the original name for the hospital? . |
BrianMoran User ID: 1357697 United States 04/27/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081851 this right here is the smoking gun...how can anyone with design experience not see how easy this is prove that it's fake with Illustrator. Obviously whoever they hired didn't cover their tracks very good and didn't realize how anyone with a simple two year degree in design could prove this. which means it probably wasn't CIA, it was probably an in house job done at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. You know, the fewer conspirators the better. They probably got hold of Dr. Sinclair's signature, Ms. Dunham's signature and the rest would have been easy. |
cdevidal User ID: 511509 United States 04/27/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DRUDGE POSTED MY LINK! [link to wireupdate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081851Congrats!! You should have ads and make thousands Now your page won't load... spend that money on upgraded servers and bandwidth... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1296504 United States 04/27/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the one presented is an exact copy of the original, should it not say "Barry Soetoro"? I mean it has been proven to have been his name at birth hasn't it? Perhaps it is possible I am just being an airhead and completely overlooking something here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359500 United States 04/27/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is awesome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357955Obama is a communist creation. They swindled the dumb asses (a.k.a. American Public) into electing him, but now they are scrambling to avoid an impeachment. The fact that the name of the hospital is wrong is just plain STUPID! If you're going to try to lie, why not cover ALL bases. They're getting sloppy for some reason. It's either because they are stupid -- or they know that it doesn't really matter any more, because we are all soon going to die. I'd say sloppy because they AREstupid. Such an insult and an embarrassment. |
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Anonymous Coward 04/27/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would mean that Susan Nordyke's BC, used as a base-line of what a real one looks like from the time of Obama's birth, is also fake - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229[link to www.wnd.com] I suspected it from the very beginning. So easily showing one's personal information to entire world... Yep she is shilling because of the error that was made. If they released something that is a demonstrabe forgery this is the beginning of an epic shitstorm. Why do I feel this all connects to the May 21 crap and the feeling I have had for a while now regarding June FEMA camp grand openings? We are on the same page. Once again Obama has dangled another forgery carrot in front of us. The forgeries are done on purpose imo. This should keep truth seekers busy for a few months at the least. |
Juliett 484 User ID: 1024761 United States 04/27/2011 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey...just out of curiosity... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1296504If the one presented is an exact copy of the original, should it not say "Barry Soetoro"? I mean it has been proven to have been his name at birth hasn't it? Perhaps it is possible I am just being an airhead and completely overlooking something here? NO NO NO. This was his mother's next husband... and he supposedly adopted Barack changing his name to Barry Soetoro... or that's the story as Barack told it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 271513 United States 04/27/2011 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081851 this right here is the smoking gun...how can anyone with design experience not see how easy this is prove that it's fake with Illustrator. Obviously whoever they hired didn't cover their tracks very good and didn't realize how anyone with a simple two year degree in design could prove this. Or, maybe they did realize that they were leaving tracks that could be followed. What if this was sloppily created on purpose for some grand plan that TPTB have or maybe someone on the inside that was involved with the fabrication wanted to leave clues that this was not a real BC. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359487 United States 04/27/2011 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why is this version different? [link to news.bbcimg.co.uk] that one looks more official, i guess they only released direct image scans to few sources the one on the whitehouse is for everyone else? somethign stinks |
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rancelot User ID: 240916 United States 04/27/2011 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see the layering in Adobe, but that is just likely a product of the software. However, the "security paper" used for the alleged copy shows white space behind where the moved text was, as if preexisting elements had been "whited out" to accommodate new text. This document is somewhat suspicious. I have a few doubts if this document is what it purports to be. |
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Least Servant User ID: 1062754 United States 04/27/2011 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are on the same page. Once again Obama has dangled another forgery carrot in front of us. Quoting: Phoenix 2012The forgeries are done on purpose imo. This should keep truth seekers busy for a few months at the least. We do they have to run this society into the ground before people will accept the change that is necessary for ALL of our survival? :romaflag: Not enough to fight, too many to die. |
jellybean224 User ID: 967614 United States 04/27/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would mean that Susan Nordyke's BC, used as a base-line of what a real one looks like from the time of Obama's birth, is also fake - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229[link to www.wnd.com] Anything else birthers? Note that the BC the White House released was electronically created. Anyone can open up the document in Adobe Illustrator and see that it was manufactured and not an actual honest scan of a hard-copy sent from Hawaii's Dept. of Health. The "issue" the OP brought up is a non-starter, however. So when you ask "Anything else?" I say yes: if you are going issue a BC, make sure it is a real one. I believe you may be referring to the analysis here: [link to market-ticker.org] Which shows how the dates and other data were altered using adobe illustrator. And if you are referring to another person's work, it's always best to give credit where it's due. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359371 Poland 04/27/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That would mean that Susan Nordyke's BC, used as a base-line of what a real one looks like from the time of Obama's birth, is also fake - Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229[link to www.wnd.com] Not correct. The Nordyke BC lists the Tripler Medical Center. Try again. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1081851 United States 04/27/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DRUDGE POSTED MY LINK! [link to wireupdate.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1081851Congrats!! You should have ads and make thousands Now your page won't load... spend that money on upgraded servers and bandwidth... not my site, just a link I sent them here is the content |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1325240 United States 04/27/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BTW: Heres a youtube link for the layers video [link to www.youtube.com] That site is getting hammered hard (wireupdate) |
Dark Zen (OP) User ID: 1151242 United States 04/27/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we need another bc from the early 60s from that hospital and double check the name of the hospital. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951582Good Call.... I will try to find ! they all say the same as Big O's. the twins birth certificate shows the same. [link to www.biasedmediaboycott.com] it is a non-issue. It was apparently commonly called by this name in 1961. the fact that the BC is a layered composite is IMPORTANT. I'm Not Buying that AC.... Susans BC is Prob fake as well... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1000164 United States 04/27/2011 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your not making since to me.... Spell it out for the dumb Birther I am... Quoting: Dark ZenThe document the WH released is obviously an electronically created document. It is not proof of anything. However, look at Susan Nordyke's BC, a BC that is used to debunk the president's - [link to www.wnd.com] It clearly also states "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" as well. If what you say is true, then Susan Nordyke's BC is fake too. However, I am more inclined to believe that the "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital" is the genuine way it was written in 1961 based on Susan Nordyke's BC. This "evidence" is a red herring. It is not going to lead to any truth. may have already been suggested but it shouldn't be hard to locate someone else born at that hospital at the same year. compare the 2 if the other doesn't have the same hospital name its 100% proof of fake. they want us to impeach him now or revolt otherwise they wouldn't make these "mistakes" |
cdevidal User ID: 511509 United States 04/27/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC: Quoting: Dark Zen“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?” [link to www.whitehouse.gov] From WIKI The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children. Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Ok Birther Haters !!! Watcha got????? What what what ?!?!? Thanks to Charlie's Angel for this ! Confirmation: [link to www.rense.com] |