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*** Obama's Birth Certificate Debunked Already ***Proof***

 
BrianMoran

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That would mean that Susan Nordyke's BC, used as a base-line of what a real one looks like from the time of Obama's birth, is also fake -

[link to www.wnd.com]
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Anything else birthers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164108


Note that the BC the White House released was electronically created. Anyone can open up the document in Adobe Illustrator and see that it was manufactured and not an actual honest scan of a hard-copy sent from Hawaii's Dept. of Health.

The "issue" the OP brought up is a non-starter, however.

So when you ask "Anything else?" I say yes: if you are going issue a BC, make sure it is a real one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229


I believe you may be referring to the analysis here:

[link to market-ticker.org]

Which shows how the dates and other data were altered using adobe illustrator.

And if you are referring to another person's work, it's always best to give credit where it's due.
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Someone took that whole site down. Unreal.
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so if the birth announcement in the 1961 newspaper is valid...

then Mrs. Anna Obama in a Seattle WA 1961 directory is valid too, right?

this is her address and listed as a student. We know the address

and a 1961 directory would mean she had to be established in Seattle PRIOR to AUGUST 1961... and for anyone that has been researching this man as long as I have it is yet another ISSUE of inconsistent biographical history that will not be addressed...

[link to i477.photobucket.com]

BC issues are just a tiny tip of the iceberg of problems associated with our presidents true identity.
 Quoting: Juliett 484


FOR EXAMPLE:

“The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:

Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992

Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

Sincerely,
Stuart Lau”

****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************

And this:

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson

Office of Public Records

206-543-9180

[link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com]

Note how STANLEY ANN DUNHAM is listed as her name by UH and UW. However in the birth announcement in Hawaii she is recorded with her husband as MR and MRS BARACK H OBAMA. Why is she still running around with her maiden name in Seattle?
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Not sure I buy the 1961 Kenya thing just yet.



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Anything else birthers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164108


Note that the BC the White House released was electronically created. Anyone can open up the document in Adobe Illustrator and see that it was manufactured and not an actual honest scan of a hard-copy sent from Hawaii's Dept. of Health.

The "issue" the OP brought up is a non-starter, however.

So when you ask "Anything else?" I say yes: if you are going issue a BC, make sure it is a real one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229


I believe you may be referring to the analysis here:

[link to market-ticker.org]

Which shows how the dates and other data were altered using adobe illustrator.

And if you are referring to another person's work, it's always best to give credit where it's due.
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Someone took that whole site down. Unreal.
 Quoting: BrianMoran


Running scared.
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You have made him angry.And now you will pay the consequences!
Internet will be shutdown!!!
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Thread: Obama's fake Birth Certificate - do this and find out for yourself
here are the instructions, someone do it!!!
Try the following: Save off a copy of the exact PDF file the White House has released as Obama's birth certificate this morning. Find yourself a copy of Adobe Illustrator (not Photoshop), and load up the PDF file in Illustrator. Then click on the center of the image of the birth certificate, then right-click on the center of the image, and click Release Clipping Mask. Have fun... " Boy! Atta fake! I could make a better forgery
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THE TEABAGGERS WIN AGAIN! 5a
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so if the birth announcement in the 1961 newspaper is valid...

then Mrs. Anna Obama in a Seattle WA 1961 directory is valid too, right?

this is her address and listed as a student. We know the address

and a 1961 directory would mean she had to be established in Seattle PRIOR to AUGUST 1961... and for anyone that has been researching this man as long as I have it is yet another ISSUE of inconsistent biographical history that will not be addressed...

[link to i477.photobucket.com]

BC issues are just a tiny tip of the iceberg of problems associated with our presidents true identity.
 Quoting: Juliett 484


FOR EXAMPLE:

“The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:

Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992

Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

Sincerely,
Stuart Lau”

****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************

And this:

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for:
Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson

Office of Public Records

206-543-9180

[link to atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com]

Note how STANLEY ANN DUNHAM is listed as her name by UH and UW. However in the birth announcement in Hawaii she is recorded with her husband as MR and MRS BARACK H OBAMA. Why is she still running around with her maiden name in Seattle?
 Quoting: rancelot 240916


Well, if it's on a site called atlasshrugs, you know it's 100% fair and balanced.
Dark Zen  (OP)

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Here is link directly to the Hospitals Website !!!

It CLEARLY SAYS name changed in 1978 !


[link to www.kapiolani.org]
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Read it again.
It says "The two hospitals joined"
What were the TWO hospitals?
Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home

It did exist in 1961, you are all not reading this correctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359446


It DID NOT Exist... My god some you are hard headed....

WIKI READS AS FOLLOWS...

In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.

IN 1978 IT MERGED w/ Kapiʻolani Maternity Home

TO BECOME

Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children

TO BECOME..... WHEN ????? 1978 !!!

DUH DUH DUH...

NOT 1961

This is the Complete name "Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children"


NOTHEING ELSE!!!!

Not Hopsital
Not SLOPPY JOES
Not Burger King

But This "Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children"

AND NOT UNTIL 1978


geesh...
 Quoting: Dark Zen


How is that search coming along for another Hawaii BC to prove it?
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Not to good... try to pacify the children...

lol
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Here is link directly to the Hospitals Website !!!

It CLEARLY SAYS name changed in 1978 !


[link to www.kapiolani.org]
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Read it again.
It says "The two hospitals joined"
What were the TWO hospitals?
Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home

It did exist in 1961, you are all not reading this correctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359446


It DID NOT Exist... My god some of you are hard headed....

WIKI READS AS FOLLOWS...

In 1978, it merged with Kapi& olani Maternity Home to become Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

IN 1978 IT MERGED w/ Kapi &olani Maternity Home

TO BECOME

Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children

TO BECOME..... WHEN ????? 1978 !!!

DUH DUH DUH...

NOT 1961

This is the Complete name "Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children"


NOTHEING ELSE!!!!

Not Hopsital
Not SLOPPY JOES
Not Burger King

But This "Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children"

AND NOT UNTIL 1978


geesh...
 Quoting: Dark Zen


When was it called "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital"? That is what it says on the new BC,not mentioned on wikipedia at all.
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Just read something from the Fox News site by a poster which is VERY interesting regarding this possible FAKE BC:


“Hate to bring this up, but I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978?”

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

From WIKI

The facility was originally founded by Queen Kapiʻolani as the Kapiʻolani Maternity Home in 1890 for which she held bazaars and luaus to raise $8,000 needed to start the Home. Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with Kapiʻolani Maternity Home to become Kapiʻolani Medical Center for Women and Children.


Check it Out your self at WIKI ! Gives 1978 as the Name Change Date ! GOOD JOB ON POINTING THAT OUT, THAT'S JUST ONE MORE THING THAT DON'T SMELL RIGHT. [link to johnharding.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ok Birther Haters !!! Watcha got????? What what what ?!?!?

Thanks to Charlie's Angel for this !
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Dark Zen  (OP)

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You have made him angry.And now you will pay the consequences!
Internet will be shutdown!!!
[link to www.thedailybell.com]
Thread: !!!INTERNET KILL SWITCH ENGAGED!!!
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LOL Nice !
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WHAT ABOUT THE ADDRESS OF THE HOSPITAL???
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Anything else birthers?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1164108


Note that the BC the White House released was electronically created. Anyone can open up the document in Adobe Illustrator and see that it was manufactured and not an actual honest scan of a hard-copy sent from Hawaii's Dept. of Health.

The "issue" the OP brought up is a non-starter, however.

So when you ask "Anything else?" I say yes: if you are going issue a BC, make sure it is a real one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1295229


I believe you may be referring to the analysis here:

[link to market-ticker.org]

Which shows how the dates and other data were altered using adobe illustrator.

And if you are referring to another person's work, it's always best to give credit where it's due.
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614



Someone took that whole site down. Unreal.
 Quoting: BrianMoran


Cache is your friend! pigchef

You've GOT To Be Kidding Me (Birth Certificate)


Oh do c'mon.... oh Donald, this case is not closed.

You can't possibly by serious.

This document has been altered and whoever did it wasn't even very clever in doing so.

I downloaded the PDF from the White House Web site - the "official copy" right from the "Horse's Mouth." Then I loaded it into Illustrator. Look at these images I then screen-captured - first, the ENTIRE image itself:
[link to market-ticker.org]
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thought his birth name was BARRY! not til he went to that special school, did he change his name to B@r@k!
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So, moranies..

Did you actually think clones got birth certificates ?

5a
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[link to img194.imageshack.us]
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Here is link directly to the Hospitals Website !!!

It CLEARLY SAYS name changed in 1978 !


[link to www.kapiolani.org]
 Quoting: Dark Zen


Read it again.
It says "The two hospitals joined"
What were the TWO hospitals?
Kauikeolani Children's Hospital and Kapi‘olani Maternity Home

It did exist in 1961, you are all not reading this correctly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359446


It DID NOT Exist... My god some of you are hard headed....

WIKI READS AS FOLLOWS...

In 1978, it merged with Kapi& olani Maternity Home to become Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children.

IN 1978 IT MERGED w/ Kapi &olani Maternity Home

TO BECOME

Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children

TO BECOME..... WHEN ????? 1978 !!!

DUH DUH DUH...

NOT 1961

This is the Complete name "Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children"


NOTHEING ELSE!!!!

Not Hopsital
Not SLOPPY JOES
Not Burger King

But This "Kapi& olani Medical Center for Women and Children"

AND NOT UNTIL 1978


geesh...
 Quoting: Dark Zen


When was it called "Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital"? That is what it says on the new BC,not mentioned on wikipedia at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1341713


Well let me provide you with a screen shot of WIKI page then....

I am uploading the shot and I will post it ASAP.
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This is awesome.

Obama is a communist creation.

They swindled the dumb asses (a.k.a. American Public) into electing him, but now they are scrambling to avoid an impeachment.

The fact that the name of the hospital is wrong is just plain STUPID!

If you're going to try to lie, why not cover ALL bases.

They're getting sloppy for some reason.

It's either because they are stupid -- or they know that it doesn't really matter any more, because we are all soon going to die.
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Are yout high lol? What has Obama done that is "communist" all he has done is support globalist interests and raise the influence of big business....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286385


The end result is what matters, not what he's currently doing.

Follow the path
Which is the most universal human characteristic, fear or laziness?
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okay, I've been trying to keep an open mind. I was speculating that only a legit document would have the errors of race etc, but this new info makes it hard to ignore the doubters. This document is bogus! Yep, you glpers, for the first time in 3 years, have change my mind!
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So CNN has three commentators saying why the birthers are stupid. Spin equals win for them.
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So, moranies..

Did you actually think clones got birth certificates ?

5a
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Or aliens? hiding

uhoh

monster

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Wikipedia is such a reliable source...

You honestly think they would try to fake this knowing you tards were going to dissect it???

Meds please take your meds
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guy teh hospital on the bc is just the maternty/gyno hospital no womens center or mention of childrens


and there used to be just the maternity hospitla

i'm with you on the PDF stuff, but not this ?
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1rof1
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You're all sheep, and wool is pulled tightly over your eyes.

You have passion for this issue, that's true. But passion and anger don't make you correct, or sane. Dogs also have passion for snausages, doesn't make them political dynamo's. And neither are you guys. You're just bitter racists waving torches and pitchforks and chasing wild geese.

Please use your passion more constructively, like dismantling corporate power and preventing them from buying out our entire government and our freedoms instead.

This birther thing is a plot created by people like the koch brothers, trump, and mccain/palin to herd you sheep into the NWO agenda. Distract you from the real issues and ignite your rage at red herrings.

Fucking fools.
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Oh do c'mon.... oh Donald, this case is not closed.

You can't possibly by serious.

This document has been altered and whoever did it wasn't even very clever in doing so.
[link to market-ticker.org]
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OMG!!!

According to the link you posted, the DEEP DARK secret is... that he wasn't born in 1961!!!

SHIT FOR BRAINS IDIOT.

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It seems like Mr. Obama needs to hire forgers who don't secretly hate his guts.
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You're all sheep, and wool is pulled tightly over your eyes.

You have passion for this issue, that's true. But passion and anger don't make you correct, or sane. Dogs also have passion for snausages, doesn't make them political dynamo's. And neither are you guys. You're just bitter racists waving torches and pitchforks and chasing wild geese.

Please use your passion more constructively, like dismantling corporate power and preventing them from buying out our entire government and our freedoms instead.

This birther thing is a plot created by people like the koch brothers, trump, and mccain/palin to herd you sheep into the NWO agenda. Distract you from the real issues and ignite your rage at red herrings.

Fucking fools.
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It's all one team derptard.

w00tsign

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That's the problem with a Conspiracy.


When you have too few people PROOF-READING your forged
documents, you inevitably will forget something important.


Tricky Dicky, meet Barry Obami
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Obama was born on aug 4th with a cert number issued 10641 but go back to Susan Nordyke was born Aug 5th and a number of 10637.

How is that possible since obama was born first.





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