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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1408236 Sweden 05/31/2011 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | man alot of jew hating europeans Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771i hope the states and israel take over europe so those people don;t start gassing babies again with their new muslim youth oh yeah, we already puppet them lol LoL look at the ignorance of that yank. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1408236 Sweden 05/31/2011 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes we are dumb here because we don;t think gassing babies is nice Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771a muslim swede oh hi muslim swede tthat ran away from his countrt or his coward parentsw did because it is a crap ass land with crap ass rat people how are you Hey mate, how about use something called a "spell checker" so we at least can understand your hillbilly ramblings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 699679 United States 05/31/2011 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes we are dumb here because we don;t think gassing babies is nice Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771a muslim swede oh hi muslim swede tthat ran away from his countrt or his coward parentsw did because it is a crap ass land with crap ass rat people how are you Stop drinking, asswipe... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 699679 United States 05/31/2011 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771yes the jews that fought in the battle of bulge were bad too it is wrong to kill nazis and stuff lets focus on a little boat incident that happened in 36 BC and say "man, them jews" lol Okay well then you can concentrate on the Israel AIPAC spy ring busted by the FBI a few months ago: Thread: New FBI Files Alleging AIPAC Theft of Government Property and Israeli Espionage Released |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402771 United States 05/31/2011 06:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as long as they hold the western front in the middle east-who cares a stratgic deployment with allies that sometinmes $@#$#^@%^ up- nothing new, no big deal more important is that flank, with afghanistan and iraq we can watch paki nukes, and add a flank to iran same with china- we have japan and tawain and s korea |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402771 United States 05/31/2011 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if anything the states tells israel when and when not to attack - and they probably don;t like that but we held their hand in the forst iraq war when skuds hit thier land and they are like a bad ass military and i bet they were itching to pulverize someone they should have just taken gaza and said to all these countires and peoples that cry about the palestineans - here- give them food and land and crap |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 699679 United States 05/31/2011 06:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | as long as they hold the western front in the middle east-who cares Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771a stratgic deployment with allies that sometinmes $@#$#^@%^ up- nothing new, no big deal more important is that flank, with afghanistan and iraq we can watch paki nukes, and add a flank to iran same with china- we have japan and tawain and s korea Too bad everything you just mentioned has been an epic fail, much like your posts... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 699679 United States 05/31/2011 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if anything the states tells israel when and when not to attack - and they probably don;t like that Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771but we held their hand in the forst iraq war when skuds hit thier land and they are like a bad ass military and i bet they were itching to pulverize someone they should have just taken gaza and said to all these countires and peoples that cry about the palestineans - here- give them food and land and crap You mean like there failed war in Lebanon? Seriously kid get off the internet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 699679 United States 05/31/2011 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry- don't take orders from strangers on a conspiracy message board that think they are psychic Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1402771And we don't think anything about intellectually dysfunctional people like you who can't even construct simple sentences. See how this works? |
Channing User ID: 1408282 Germany 05/31/2011 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it symbolic that TPTB were not able to sink a ship called 'Liberty'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1402771 United States 05/31/2011 06:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh no, and here is was ready to discuss pascal and spinoza with the jew haters lol but i am convinced. what are we going to do? i say lets all gather and have a protest and hold up "the liberty was attacked" signs. and then write about it from stuff we read on the net lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1189871 New Zealand 05/31/2011 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Part 2.. Quoting: NoSilenceUSS LIBERTY Just another WordPress.com weblog Post-Attack on the USS Liberty–Israel’s Blood Bath December 15, 2007 On the horizon we could see another helicopter coming at our ship. We thought to ourselves “Oh no, here we go again…more bloodshed from our so-called “friends” in Israel.” The helicopter hovered above the main deck of the ship and then, to our surprise, dropped a brown paper bag containing an orange and, to our even greater surprise–a business card. On the front of the card read ‘Commander Ernest Castle, Naval Attaché USN’ and on the back of the card, handwritten it asked ‘Have you casualties?’… As if the dummies couldn’t tell we had casualties after what our ‘allies’ had just done to us after a million armor-piercing rounds, a thousand rockets and 5 torpedoes. Rick Aimetti took the card to the bridge and gave it to the Captain, who was obviously in no mood to deal with this new lunacy. He told them clearly to get the hell away from his ship, finishing his remarks with ‘We want no help from you.’ They left the area and soon were out of sight. There were many heroes that day who put life and limb on the line in order to save their shipmates in harm’s way. I found out later that the boiler tenders never left their battle stations, even though the boiler was Israel’s main target. Israel did her homework ahead of time and knew that a direct hit on the boiler would have blown the ship into tiny pieces and that would have been that. For Gary Brummett, J.P. Newel, Gene Owens, it turned out that their bravery saved our ship. Now was the time to care for our wounded, damage control, plugging holes, putting out fires, etc. The mess deck was full of men because we were using it as the main triage center. Every table had a body on it, as well as the deck itself and there was almost no room to move…So many wounded were there, so much blood. I and others were the walking wounded and, judging by what we saw, we were very lucky. We had two corpsmen onboard and only one doctor, Richard Kiepfer. We kept hoping for help from our government, but nevertheless the seconds dragged on like hours and the hours dragged on like years and soon reality set in and we figured out that we were on our own. The heat of the day gave way to the darkness, which was a welcome change, as the blistering heat cooked our crippled ship, making the smell of blood and death all the more impossible to ignore. I had no idea how that night would change my life forever, but I was about to find out. The wounded were screaming in pain, bleeding everywhere. Every sailor who could help was doing all he could to calm our fallen shipmates. They had head wounds and bodies full of shrapnel. Lt. Commander Philip Armstrong the (executive officer of the Liberty) was on one of the tables. I stopped to check on him and he asked me to light him a cigarette…I did and gave it to him. He took long drags off it and soon it was gone and he wanted another so I gave it to him. He smoked it the same as he had the first. As I was talking to him I thought he would be fine. It seemed to me he would make it, but as it turned out, I was wrong. A few moments later he was dead. I was shocked and saddened but knew that there would be time to weep later, as others needed help. As the night wore on I was told to go to the Officers’ Mess. There I saw Dr. Kiepfer with his life jacket around his waist. Little did I know that his belly had been cut to pieces and he was using the life jacket to keep pressure on his wounds so as not to bleed to death while he tended to the wounded. He never uttered a word of complaint. My job was to hold a light for Doc Kiepfer as he did his work. While he was working on Gary Blanchard, Gary asked me to take off his socks because he said his ‘feet were burning’. I did as he asked, took his socks off and it seemed to ease him a bit. Doc started cutting him open from his chest bone on down, working as hard as he could, but it was obvious even to me that it was too late. Gary’s kidneys were all shot up and a few moments later he died. This wonderful young man was gone and it was at this point that I began to hate the murderers who did this to us. What did we do to deserve this? This was not the action of a friend, it was like being sucker-punched the way Judas did to Jesus. They had overflown us for hours earlier in the day and knew who we were. We felt safe, and it was at this moment I figured out that what they were really doing was reconnaissance, finding our weak points so as to better kill us. Doc put a few stitches in him to keep his insides from falling out all over the place and then it was on to the next person. How Doc was able to do what he did was something not human. It was something from another world, and by that I mean probably from heaven, as no human could have done what he did and I will never forget it as long as I live. The Captain stayed on the bridge and would not take any medical help until the crew was looked after first. As the sun began to rise Captain wanted his ship cleaned up, and for that Rick Aimetti and I got the gruesome duty. We got pressure to our firehoses and began the grim task that still brings me nightmares. Body parts were all over, blood and a shoe with a foot still in it. We had no clue who it belonged to. We did as we were ordered and began washing the body parts of our American brothers over the side of the ship to be forever interred in the sea. Their families would never get the chance of seeing them at their wake…No lock of hair, no goodbye kiss, nothing. The tears were rolling down my face as I did this unholy thing of giving to the sea my friends and shipmates and as I did this I begged their forgiveness. The gun tubes were full of blood that a fire hose was not going to remove, as the blood was baked onto the haze gray paint of our ship. Blood was streaming down the starboard bulkhead wall. We made are way down to the main deck and finally, after what seemed to be an eternity, our gruesome job was over. What I had just done has been a burden on my soul everyday for 40 years, which by my math is somewhere close to 15,000 days. It is now about 10 am and we see American ships on the horizon. At that moment my body gave out and I laid on the deck…I was exhausted… It was hard to move and I felt relieved that help was there but also anger that help did not come when we needed it the most. Where was my country? Where was my navy? Where was my government? How the hell could they do such a thing to 300 men who swore to give their lives if necessary for the defense of America? My world, my faith in everything that I knew growing up had just been shattered like broken glass, and even though I didn’t know it at the time, this was to be the event that changed me forever, like Saul who, while on his way to Damascus to kill the followers of this new religion known as Christianity, was knocked off his horse, blinded and turned into someone and something new. Little did I know that my work had only just begun. Now, 40 years later, I am here to tell the story of what happened on June 8th, 1967 to nearly 300 American boys onboard a ship known as the USS Liberty when it was attacked by Israel for nearly 2 hours. People may dismiss what I say as the rantings of an angry old man, but given what is taking place today regarding the war in the Middle East and everything that may happen, my suggestion is that–while there is time–people turn off the Britney Spears, the Desperate Housewives and the football games and listen, listen carefully to what happened, as it is likely to happen again, because, as the old saying goes, ‘a leopard does not change its spots.’ Phil Tourney Survivor of the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty and contributing editor for American Free Press newspaper |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1401436 United States 05/31/2011 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #1 PIN. YES. It's way overdue. OP is correct trust but verify, As anyone who will honestly look into this incident will find this was completly covered up, And as you peel back the layers of the onion you will see the how American service members were sacraficed for the sake of the elite to profit from yet another illegal incursion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1189871 New Zealand 05/31/2011 07:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here we are folks.. Living in a barbaric world.. Quoting: NoSilenceWe have poison our planet. We have not evolved at all. We are going in reverse. Everything is upside down. Nothing makes since anymore. But the solution is at our finger tips.. We all have the power to change the ebb of tides, without violence. We must set the example with piece and love. NO MORE VIOLENCE..... the one thing (they) hate is for people to be as one in love and peace. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1408319 United States 05/31/2011 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was a case of mistaken identity and failure of communication by the Liberty's chain of command. Quoting: FocusThe Liberty was somewhere she shouldn't have been. _________________________ [link to en.wikipedia.org] "On the night of June 7 Washington time, early morning on June 8, 01:10Z or 3:10 AM local time, the Pentagon issued an order to 6th Fleet headquarters to tell the Liberty to come no closer than 100 nmi (120 mi; 190 km) to Israel, Syria, or the Sinai coast (Oren, p. 263).[18](pages 5 and Exhibit N, page 58). According to the Naval Court of Inquiry[19] (p. 23 ff, p. 111 ff) and National Security Agency official history,[20] the order to withdraw was not broadcast on the frequencies that the Liberty crew was monitoring for orders until 15:25 Zulu, hours after the attack, due to a long series of administrative and communications problems. The Navy said a large volume of unrelated high-precedence traffic, including intelligence intercepts related to the conflict, was being handled at the time and it also faulted a shortage of qualified radio men as a contributing factor to the failure to send the withdrawal message to Liberty in time Yeah, right... And I guess the numerous highly visible US flags on the ship were "somewhere they shouldn't have been" too ? LOL... The Israeli pilots had a perfect view on the ship and its flags, and they kept on bombing it for an eternity. Many survivors have witnessed to that fact. |
sailor101 User ID: 1005950 United States 05/31/2011 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was a case of mistaken identity and failure of communication by the Liberty's chain of command. Quoting: FocusThe Liberty was somewhere she shouldn't have been. _________________________ [link to en.wikipedia.org] "On the night of June 7 Washington time, early morning on June 8, 01:10Z or 3:10 AM local time, the Pentagon issued an order to 6th Fleet headquarters to tell the Liberty to come no closer than 100 nmi (120 mi; 190 km) to Israel, Syria, or the Sinai coast (Oren, p. 263).[18](pages 5 and Exhibit N, page 58). According to the Naval Court of Inquiry[19] (p. 23 ff, p. 111 ff) and National Security Agency official history,[20] the order to withdraw was not broadcast on the frequencies that the Liberty crew was monitoring for orders until 15:25 Zulu, hours after the attack, due to a long series of administrative and communications problems. The Navy said a large volume of unrelated high-precedence traffic, including intelligence intercepts related to the conflict, was being handled at the time and it also faulted a shortage of qualified radio men as a contributing factor to the failure to send the withdrawal message to Liberty in time ARE YOU NUTS....you will not believe the first hand account of the attack yet you will believe what wiki prints. Knowing full well anyone at any time can change anything. There are whith house tapes to prove Johnson wanted "The God damn ship to go to the bottom!" Sad but true |
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Man from Modesto User ID: 1137629 United States 05/31/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NSA agents that joined the ship were 6 Arabic linguists, which included Allen Blue. Quoting: Man from ModestoThis goes against the Israeli conspiracy, in my mind. Not conclusive, surely. [link to www.nsa.gov] Looking at this again... sections of this part (page 25 of 83) are redacted. It looks like this: Six Arabic __________________ linguists joined USN-855 for the expected work on U.A.R. _______________ communications. It would be a reasonable guess to consider that the redacted portions were: ...and Hebrew... ...and Israel... But, the rest of the page opens more questions. Pray or be defeated. My YT channel: www.youtube.com/knowjesusknowpeace My blog: can be found via my YT channel. |
lancifer93 User ID: 1343739 Canada 05/31/2011 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355436[link to www.gtr5.com] Let the witnesses speak Silence only protects the criminals Keeping it quiet makes ALL governments involved guilty for 40 years <----- EVIL AS HIS SPERM DONOR If he told the truth his "friends" would KILL HIM. Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas or in this case, Lay down with swine, stay down UNCLEAN Thanks, very well said.. Glad this thread is still alive! Plant or Perish |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1066008 United States 05/31/2011 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not going anywhere. Someone dig up the name of the treasurer of the Defense Department shortly before 9/11. Someone look up just how many Israelis occupied American corridors of power. The situation is going to change very quickly. Few are going to be able to hold on, as it should be. But those who emerge will have a power of spirit that has yet to be known in human form. Undefinable to those left behind. |