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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309528 United States 06/14/2011 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much water would have to be gathered together in one place so as to initiate nuclear fusion of the hydrogen portion of the water? Quoting: MackHow large a diameter/volume would it be? a drop is enough. A drop is enough for fusion to take place, but not under its own gravity, as I believe OP implied. |
Anonymous Heart User ID: 1249869 United States 06/14/2011 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How much water would have to be gathered together in one place so as to initiate nuclear fusion of the hydrogen portion of the water? Quoting: MackHow large a diameter/volume would it be? a drop is enough. Anything is possible, you know... and wouldn't that just be something? :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309528 United States 06/14/2011 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The density of liquid water is not great enough for gravitational confinement to imitate fusion. It would have to happen in stages, IE pushing the Oxygen out first, and then the H2 would have to further split in to free protons. Its not possible with water as we know it, but it could certainly happen via an unknown/unobserved process. I tend to think of water as the 'ashes' of stars or super nova. Water all by its self appears to be in a particularly low energy configuration. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309528 United States 06/14/2011 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting responses; I thought that the gravity of enough water in one place could bring about fusion of the hydrogen. From the answers, it seems to be not possible. Quoting: MackIf you had ENOUGH of it, it would dissociate and then it wouldn't really be water anymore. It COULD happen but it would have to happen in stages. Food for thought, some researchers have shown (mathematically anyway) that matter making up super-massive black holes may have a density close to that of /air/. |
Dr. House User ID: 1398844 United States 06/14/2011 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3-5 Jupiter masses. However this would be a short (very short) blast as the energy release of fusion would blow off enough mass to stop the fusion process. Theoretically, minimum mass of a star (able to maintain fusion) is estimated to be about 75 times the mass of Jupiter. Assuming of course they are composed largely of hydrogen. Helium would require more mass to ignite and maintain fusion. Long before you reached enough mass to undergo and maintain fusion (as a star does) the hydrogen and oxygen of the water molecules would have disassociated (split apart) and layered within the body of the total mass with oxygen (near metallic state) sinking to the core and hydrogen rising to the top. Sinkhole list: Thread: Sinkholes Updated 28 Dec 2010 find a sinkhole, add it to this thread, please. "Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." (1 John 3:15, NKJV). |
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Anonymous Boo-Boo Kitty User ID: 1117756 United States 06/14/2011 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting responses; I thought that the gravity of enough water in one place could bring about fusion of the hydrogen. From the answers, it seems to be not possible. Quoting: MackIf you had ENOUGH of it, it would dissociate and then it wouldn't really be water anymore. It COULD happen but it would have to happen in stages. Food for thought, some researchers have shown (mathematically anyway) that matter making up super-massive black holes may have a density close to that of /air/. Here is further food for thought... mathematicians dislike being faced with problems that turn out to be 'impossible' to solve, when faced with our present system of numbers. In fact, they dislike it so much that they were inspired to create a new numbering system, in which formerly 'impossible' equations can be solved. How do you like that...? So, if we were to draw any sort of practical inferences from this knowledge, it would be, what, do you suppose...? |
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