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Don't trivialize vaccine reactions, please. Many children and babies have died from horrific reactions to vaccines, including brain swelling. Far more children are injured and killed by vaccines in the U.S. than are injured or killed by the illnesses BY FAR. You need to go look at the national vaccine injury compensation fund which exists to pay families of children who have been killed or disabled by vaccines. It pays out millions of dollars a year and many families sadly get turned down.

Yet knowing this fact, some people are still defiant that vaccines cannot cause autism and other immune system diseases, and even though the rates of autism are skyrocketig along with the # of vaxes on the schedule. Also despite the fact that the Amish have virtually no autism amongst their children, and don't vax. Amazing. Sheeple abound even here on GLP.
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Well, I live in southern California, and I've seen all sides of this issue (well, almost anyway). Firstly, I was immunized as a child (I'm 43 now), but after I developed systemic lupus at age 25, I began to change my views on a lot of things. Not so much because of the lupus, but I just felt I didn't want to mess with my kids' immune systems. I did not get them any shots as babies or toddlers. They are teens now, and back then, there was way too much of a gray area in my mind regarding them. They were pretty healthy, and got chicken pox when older, without consequence. My parents, siblings, all of us had chicken pox, and all the people I know mostly had them before, without consequence, so I didn't fuss over it too greatly. Most daycares did not object and I just had to sign the waiver. One daycare provider (a home day care) really applauded my decision. Her son was permanently brain damaged after his shot, I think it was the MMR. He's probably about 20 now. He was a really wild, unruly, not quite right child. He had been born normal, but after his shot he began to have fevers, convulsions/seizures, and eventually they did admit that it correlated with his immunizations he'd had. I am not sure what monetary reward they received, but the law puts a limit on it because they know that people can and will sue when their children suffer harm from the injections, so the government limits your possible maximum awarded damages. She said she wished she'd taken my stance when her son was small. It was pretty heartbreaking, although those cases are rare to an extent, they are out there. Not sure how many unidentified cases may be out there, you never know. Anyway, we always had to explain to social workers, doctors, what our stance was, and we had to sign the waiver form at the schools. See, they could not "force" you to get them because they cannot and will not "guarantee" that the shots were without risk to the child. They will try to pressure you into it and make you feel like you are defying authority in some way, but it is still your right. The only issue would be that if there were an outbreak of a disease at their school or other venue they visit often they would have to be quarantined from the location and remain absent until the outbreak was over. We never had this come up, either. Then, my son was around 13, cut his thumb, so I did let them give him a tetanus shot at the ER, just to be safe. I was not as worried now that they were older and their brains were more developed and they were stronger. They have never had flu shots or anything like that, tho. I'm really good with natural medicine and homeopathy and can fix just about any common illness, am quite good at that. When they were getting into middle school, I decided to get them the meningitis vaccine, at least. Then I had to get some shots for the transplant since my immunity would be low, so then I decided to get theirs, the ones that I could. I could not give them the live virus ones because of my low immunity, but they got enough of them. The thing is, once the school finds out you have immunized them in some way, then they act like you have waived your right to not get their shots and they begin to demand the rest of the shots and an immunization card, etc. They begin to see you as mainstream and expect mainstream behavior and compliance. I still have to explain the situation. I don't feel bad that I did the ones we did, as they did not seem to harm them, although I'd feel bad if I was wrong. I hope I was not.

Anyway, that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it.

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Awesome story..I have a question for you..I have been doing a lot of research to help my nephew age 12 with his ADHD..He has a hard time concentrating in school..What is the best natural supplement he can take? Any advice is much appreciated..
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GABA is good but there are several types of adhd, I would read "Magnificent mind at any Age" by Dr Daniel Amen, he gives you a checklist to see what the proper supplements would be, then you can try them. But for starters, give him a high quality fish oil supplement, 1,500mg usually a good starting point then go from there.
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Oh wise one, I don't need to "eat" your list of poisons. I'm quite satisfied with the fresh pineapple I just ate.
More ignorant knee-jerk response to link to government agency websites. You still haven't tackled any of my questions.

How about answer this? Are you aware that the pertussis vaccine has one of the lowest efficacy rates? At best the rate would be in the 70% area. Are you also aware that MOST adults are not immune to pertussis and in fact it is so mild in adults that they usually do not get diagnosed with it? So the real spreaders of pertussis would be adults. Yet this fact, coupled with the dismal efficacy rate, should spell epidemic, yet it does not. There are small outbreaks here and there and VERY few, if ANY deaths. The deaths would mainly occur in infants who could not even be immunized for pertussis since it takes 3 doses to even achieve that poor level of immunity!

Keep us your fear-mongering, it's amusing.
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And wtf does Anthrax have to do with anything? We are talking about the required vaxes for kids. Did YOU get your anthrax shot? I sure hope so, since you are such an advocate for it! If you haven't, please go get one, and enjoy your mystery ailments.
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To all you people who say "I wasn't vaccinated and I am fine"
I was vaccinated and I am also fine. Not sterile, not dead, not some horrible disease and infact no one in my family has had any problems and we are all healthy and infact, no one I know has ever had any problems. In countries without vaccination most people do have problems with these diseases, what a coincidence!
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How old are you, Phill? I am 37, and I know that when I was growing up, I was fully vaxed and we got maybe 12 vaccines? Today's kids get upwards of 33 when it's all said and done. You need to look at the younger generations and the explosion of autoimmune disease, including autism. THAT is quite the coincidence!

The ignorance is astounding. Do you even know why some countries have outbreaks of "vaccine-prevented disease"? It's because they lack modern sanitation systems, which is why diarrhea is the #1 killer in Africa. All the vaccines in the world don't protect you when you are drinking filthy water. Educate yourself before posting on a thread like this. Otherwise you just end up sounding like a shill, or a disturbed parent who vaxed and needs to validate their choice.
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I hate it when obvious ignorant people tell me to educate myself before posting

Diphtheria
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 175,885
Cases in 2003: 1
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Hib (<5 yrs old)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 20,000 (estimate)
Cases in 2003: 259
Decrease in cases per year: 98.8%

Measles
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 503,282
Cases in 2003: 56
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Mumps
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 152,209
Cases in 2003: 231
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Pertussis (whooping cough)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 147,271
Cases in 2003: 11,647
Decrease in cases per year: 92.1%

Polio (paralytic)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 16,316
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

Rubella
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 47,745
Cases in 2003: 7
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Smallpox
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 48,164
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

Tetanus
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 1,314
Cases in 2003: 20
Decrease in cases per year: 98.5%
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08/25/2011 10:14 AM
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Don't trivialize vaccine reactions, please. Many children and babies have died from horrific reactions to vaccines, including brain swelling. Far more children are injured and killed by vaccines in the U.S. than are injured or killed by the illnesses BY FAR. You need to go look at the national vaccine injury compensation fund which exists to pay families of children who have been killed or disabled by vaccines. It pays out millions of dollars a year and many families sadly get turned down.

Yet knowing this fact, some people are still defiant that vaccines cannot cause autism and other immune system diseases, and even though the rates of autism are skyrocketig along with the # of vaxes on the schedule. Also despite the fact that the Amish have virtually no autism amongst their children, and don't vax. Amazing. Sheeple abound even here on GLP.
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Diphtheria
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 175,885
Cases in 2003: 1
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Hib (<5 yrs old)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 20,000 (estimate)
Cases in 2003: 259
Decrease in cases per year: 98.8%

Measles
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 503,282
Cases in 2003: 56
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Mumps
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 152,209
Cases in 2003: 231
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Pertussis (whooping cough)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 147,271
Cases in 2003: 11,647
Decrease in cases per year: 92.1%

Polio (paralytic)
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 16,316
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

Rubella
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 47,745
Cases in 2003: 7
Decrease in cases per year: 99.9%

Smallpox
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 48,164
Cases in 2003: 0
Decrease in cases per year: 100.0%

Tetanus
Cases per year (average) before vaccines: 1,314
Cases in 2003: 20
Decrease in cases per year: 98.5%
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08/25/2011 10:18 AM
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Nice response, Phill. You dodged the question and then posted some stats, completely ignoring MY stats that along with the huge increase in vaccinations, autism and other autoimmune diseases in children have skyrocketed.

Measles, as one example, already declined 98% BEFORE the vaccine came out. A lot of this had to do with advances un sanitation, but you wouldn't know that. You prefer to blindly believe in anything the gubmint tells you. Did you get your flu shot by chance? I hope so, it KILLS!!!! Also, better get anthrax and small pox while you're at it. Don't forget your pertussis booster so you don't kill infants that haven't had their 3 shots yet. It's a moral imperative, don't you think?

Clearly you have not done much research. I can come back with any answer without having to link to CDC websites. All you guys can do is post your so-called "facts" and don't dare to touch upon anything I have said here. So typical.
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When the Black Plague killed half the population in Europe in the 1300s. I think those that refuse vaccinations are crazy. and risking the lives of themselves and others, due to their paranoia

You all dont know Sh*t about malaria and small pox and bubonic plague and the people it kills. Everyone loses a family member where its not controlled.

You all are crazy !

Im so happy to see kids today too, that never have to endure chicken pox, they have a vaccination against that now as well.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
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I refused ALL vaccines for my children in California under philosophical reasons. Injecting your children with a cocktail of foreign biological matter, chemicals and viruses is simply irresponsible and foolish. There is plenty of research and evidence that anyone with a few brain cells left can conclude that vaccinations are another attack on natural immune system development of the human being.

Falling for twisted fear propaganda spewed by the medical establishment and ignorance is not an excuse.
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I guess since we're all websites here, read and learn something besides CDC propoganda and lies:


[link to childhealthsafety.wordpress.com]
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You guys forgot one.

Number of people who loved God and had a direct connection to him before vaccinations 756,900 per year.

After vaccinations in 2003. 10%.

Once people started to get vaccinations, they began having sex with everyone and listening to rap music. Their karma is being written and will fu#* them up soon.
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When the Black Plague killed half the population in Europe in the 1300s. I think those that refuse vaccinations are crazy. and risking the lives of themselves and others, due to their paranoia

You all dont know Sh*t about malaria and small pox and bubonic plague and the people it kills. Everyone loses a family member where its not controlled.

You all are crazy !

Im so happy to see kids today too, that never have to endure chicken pox, they have a vaccination against that now as well.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
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WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
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You guys forgot one.

Number of people who loved God and had a direct connection to him before vaccinations 756,900 per year.

After vaccinations in 2003. 10%.

Once people started to get vaccinations, they began having sex with everyone and listening to rap music. Their karma is being written and will fu#* them up soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509621


I think its when women thought to compete with Men and wanted a job in Big Corp and people being led out from the farms into the cities

Its a trap in a way. If the delivery truck dont come with our food, were screwed.
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What a headache. I'm expecting my first child in early September and I'm still completely baffled about what to do with vaccinations.


Good video though OP, thanks for the info.
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I can help you with all of the needed paperwork to opt out of the hep. B shot, Vit. K shot, eye drops, etc.

Send me an email to the address below with your state location. I'll guide you step by step everything you need to do.
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Thanks for the great info everyone! I started waking up before she was due her 15 month shots, thank goodness I did. Since then she has never been sick. Also, breast feed if you can. LASTLY, DO NOT get a SS# for your child! I did and I wish I would not have (I didn't know better at the time).
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When the Black Plague killed half the population in Europe in the 1300s. I think those that refuse vaccinations are crazy. and risking the lives of themselves and others, due to their paranoia

You all dont know Sh*t about malaria and small pox and bubonic plague and the people it kills. Everyone loses a family member where its not controlled.

You all are crazy !

Im so happy to see kids today too, that never have to endure chicken pox, they have a vaccination against that now as well.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


For the 3rd time, there is NO smallpox vaccine requirement for children, and smallpox vaccine is one of the most hideous as far as side effects go.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The vaccine can cause complications for those around those who are vaccinated. People who get the vaccine will shed virus particles through vesicles on their skin and possibly through their respiratory tract. Infections in close and not-so-close contacts can ensue. The current plan to vaccinate first responders has the potential to cause infection in the most vulnerable section of the population, the hospitalized ill. Family contacts are also susceptible, although they are less vulnerable because their immune systems are presumably intact. Secondary infection can cause skin disease, pulmonary disease and rarely, neurologic disease.

As of June 21, 2003, a scientific advisory panel had issued a recommendation against further vaccination of first responders because a significant number of those vaccinated suffered heart problems, notably pericarditis and myocarditis.

In May 2007, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) voted unanimously that a new live virus vaccine produced by Acambis, ACAM2000, is both safe and effective for use in persons at high risk of exposure to smallpox virus. However, due to the high rate of serious adverse effects, the vaccine will only be made available to the CDC (a part of the United States Department of Health and Human Services) for the Strategic National Stockpile. [2] [3]

Those side effects include DEATH. The vaccine effectiveness has never even been studied. Are you going to go get your smallpox vaccine now? Or take your chances?
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All you crazies against vaccinations want to plunge us into the dark ages !! youd lose 1/3rd of your family ! and keep the population low I guess...
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When the Black Plague killed half the population in Europe in the 1300s. I think those that refuse vaccinations are crazy. and risking the lives of themselves and others, due to their paranoia

You all dont know Sh*t about malaria and small pox and bubonic plague and the people it kills. Everyone loses a family member where its not controlled.

You all are crazy !

Im so happy to see kids today too, that never have to endure chicken pox, they have a vaccination against that now as well.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
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No, I am simply saying if those that are so against vaccinations had their way, Smallpox would once again be rife. Some vaccinations are lifesavers - Rabies being another disease you would not want to catch and no, I do not have the ingredients for that either!!!

Vaccinations have their place.

Your posting by the way just proves how paranoid some people are.

Of course I fucking do not have a vial of the Smallpox vaccine!!

Are you for real or what???
Lotus

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You may opt out, but you wont be allowed to enroll your kids in most public schools !

Your kids will not be around my kids !

Hope you are all good at homeschooling and have the time. Technology is changing daily btw. Dont know how any parent now can keep up, many homeschoolers do get behind the national average.
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[link to vaclib.org]


[link to www.vaccinationnews.com]

don't put aborted alien fetal tissue into your child
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I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509621

No, I am simply saying if those that are so against vaccinations had their way, Smallpox would once again be rife. Some vaccinations are lifesavers - Rabies being another disease you would not want to catch and no, I do not have the ingredients for that either!!!

Vaccinations have their place.

Your posting by the way just proves how paranoid some people are.

Of course I fucking do not have a vial of the Smallpox vaccine!!

Are you for real or what???
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


Tell these freaks theres a camera in their fridge and a spy hiding in their bushes outside, Theyll believe it, lol
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When the Black Plague killed half the population in Europe in the 1300s. I think those that refuse vaccinations are crazy. and risking the lives of themselves and others, due to their paranoia

You all dont know Sh*t about malaria and small pox and bubonic plague and the people it kills. Everyone loses a family member where its not controlled.

You all are crazy !

Im so happy to see kids today too, that never have to endure chicken pox, they have a vaccination against that now as well.
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY


I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


For the 3rd time, there is NO smallpox vaccine requirement for children, and smallpox vaccine is one of the most hideous as far as side effects go.


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The vaccine can cause complications for those around those who are vaccinated. People who get the vaccine will shed virus particles through vesicles on their skin and possibly through their respiratory tract. Infections in close and not-so-close contacts can ensue. The current plan to vaccinate first responders has the potential to cause infection in the most vulnerable section of the population, the hospitalized ill. Family contacts are also susceptible, although they are less vulnerable because their immune systems are presumably intact. Secondary infection can cause skin disease, pulmonary disease and rarely, neurologic disease.

As of June 21, 2003, a scientific advisory panel had issued a recommendation against further vaccination of first responders because a significant number of those vaccinated suffered heart problems, notably pericarditis and myocarditis.

In May 2007, the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) voted unanimously that a new live virus vaccine produced by Acambis, ACAM2000, is both safe and effective for use in persons at high risk of exposure to smallpox virus. However, due to the high rate of serious adverse effects, the vaccine will only be made available to the CDC (a part of the United States Department of Health and Human Services) for the Strategic National Stockpile. [2] [3]

Those side effects include DEATH. The vaccine effectiveness has never even been studied. Are you going to go get your smallpox vaccine now? Or take your chances?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1517391


Not now there is no need NO, why? because Smallpox was eradicated due to a vaccination programme back in the 60s - I was one of those that received that vaccination as was millions of other people and it was due to those vaccinations that Smallpox WAS eradicated, it did not disappear on its own you know!

There is a theory that Smallpox will be used as a biological weapon - strange that, because all Smallpox vaccinations were stopped, therefore a vast number of people on this planet have not been vaccinated against it.

Think outside the box.
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I endured chicken pox. Measles and mumps too. Big f'in deal, I got a few days off school for each one, felt like shit for maybe one day in each case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193082


I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509621

No, I am simply saying if those that are so against vaccinations had their way, Smallpox would once again be rife. Some vaccinations are lifesavers - Rabies being another disease you would not want to catch and no, I do not have the ingredients for that either!!!

Vaccinations have their place.

Your posting by the way just proves how paranoid some people are.

Of course I fucking do not have a vial of the Smallpox vaccine!!

Are you for real or what???
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


There has been no effective mass campaign against smallpox, so again, your ignorance is showing.

Post-vaccine epidemics

During the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, when smallpox epidemics ran rampant, the introduction of smallpox vaccination was often followed by an increased incidence of the disease. Many vaccine critics accused the smallpox vaccine of precipitating these epidemics. A disastrous smallpox epidemic occurred in England during the period 1871-1873 at a time when the compulsory smallpox vaccination law had resulted in nearly universal coverage. A Royal Commission was appointed in 1889 to investigate the history of vaccination in the United Kingdom. Evidence mounted that smallpox epidemics increased dramatically after 1854, the year the compulsory vaccination law went into effect. In the London epidemic of 1857-1859, there were more than 14,000 deaths; in the 1863-1865 outbreak 20,000 deaths; and from 1871 to 1873 all of Europe was swept by the worst smallpox epidemic in recorded history. In England and Wales alone, 45,000 people died of smallpox at a time when, according to official estimates, 97 percent of the population had been vaccinated.

When Japan started compulsory vaccination against smallpox in 1872 the disease steadily increased each year. In 1892 more than 165,000 cases occurred with 30,000 deaths in a completely vaccinated population. During the same time period Australia had no compulsory vaccination laws, and only three deaths occurred from smallpox over a 15-year period.

Germany adopted a compulsory vaccination law in 1834, and rigorously enforced re-vaccinations. Yet during the period 1871-1872 there were 125,000 deaths from smallpox. In Berlin itself 17,000 cases of smallpox occurred among the vaccinated population, of whom 2,240 were under ten years of age, and of these vaccinated children 736 died.

In the Philippines, global public health measures were instituted when the United States began its occupation to establish a self-reliant government in the early 1900s. The incidence of smallpox steadily declined and the compulsory vaccine campaign was credited with this dramatic reduction. However, in the years 1917 to 1919, the Philippines experienced the worst epidemic of smallpox in the country’s history with over 160,000 cases and over 70,000 deaths in a completely vaccinated population. Over 43,000 deaths from smallpox occurred in 1919 alone. The entire population of the Philippines at the time was only 11 million.

Vaccine failures of this magnitude may have several causes. The vaccine used could have been defective. During that period it was difficult to verify what the vaccine actually contained. The vaccine could have been contaminated with smallpox virus and actually caused epidemics. Or vaccine critics may have been correct in asserting that Jenner’s cowpox vaccine, which is essentially the same vaccine used today, simply did not work to prevent smallpox.
Studies of vaccine effectiveness

It is undeniable that vaccination with vaccinia virus (originally from cowpox) produces antibodies to vaccinia. Over 95 percent of those receiving vaccine for the first time will develop antibodies at a titer of 1:10 or greater. However, authorities are uncertain what level of antibodies are necessary to protect against smallpox infection (CDC, 1991). In fact, it has never been proven that the vaccine is effective against smallpox at all. Some smallpox experts have admitted that vaccination will modify the disease and prevent deaths, but not prevent the disease.

Donald A. Henderson, MD, the world’s leading authority on smallpox, has lamented the paucity of smallpox vaccine studies. "Reliable data are surprisingly sparse as to the efficacy and durability of protection afforded by vaccination" (Henderson, 1988).



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Don't trivialize vaccine reactions, please. Many children and babies have died from horrific reactions to vaccines, including brain swelling. Far more children are injured and killed by vaccines in the U.S. than are injured or killed by the illnesses BY FAR. You need to go look at the national vaccine injury compensation fund which exists to pay families of children who have been killed or disabled by vaccines. It pays out millions of dollars a year and many families sadly get turned down.

Yet knowing this fact, some people are still defiant that vaccines cannot cause autism and other immune system diseases, and even though the rates of autism are skyrocketig along with the # of vaxes on the schedule. Also despite the fact that the Amish have virtually no autism amongst their children, and don't vax. Amazing. Sheeple abound even here on GLP.
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You may opt out, but you wont be allowed to enroll your kids in most public schools !

Your kids will not be around my kids !

Hope you are all good at homeschooling and have the time. Technology is changing daily btw. Dont know how any parent now can keep up, many homeschoolers do get behind the national average.
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Bullshit. My kids were enrolled in public and private schools in the U.S. WITHOUT INCIDENT. Your kids ARE around unvaxed kids, deal with it. It's a free country. P.S. most homeschooled kids are smarter and happier.
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My daughter received 18 month old shots of MMR and DPT. Two days later she had her first gran mal seizure, and eventually epilepsy. Sadly she passed away in April of this year from epilepsy.

My other children and grandchildren will never receive immunizations if I can help it. I believe the govt knows that some kids will have severe reactions -- and don't care.

My child is not the only girl to have a serious reaction to immunizations - I have a friend whose daughter died at age 12 after being in a vegetative state following immunization reaction. It happens.
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I am so sorry.rose
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What a headache. I'm expecting my first child in early September and I'm still completely baffled about what to do with vaccinations.


Good video though OP, thanks for the info.
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At least find out about the exemptions and delay the shots until you are able to make an educated decision. Start reading now.
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I bet you wouldn't survive Smallpox though.
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WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
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No, I am simply saying if those that are so against vaccinations had their way, Smallpox would once again be rife. Some vaccinations are lifesavers - Rabies being another disease you would not want to catch and no, I do not have the ingredients for that either!!!

Vaccinations have their place.

Your posting by the way just proves how paranoid some people are.

Of course I fucking do not have a vial of the Smallpox vaccine!!

Are you for real or what???
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Tell these freaks theres a camera in their fridge and a spy hiding in their bushes outside, Theyll believe it, lol
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You have yet to contribute anything to this discussion other than insults and lies. You have ignored everything I have posted, including the vaccine compensation fund started by Reagan in the 80s that has now paid well over a BILLION dollars in vaccine damage claims, yet you have the audacity to call us paranoid freaks? There are nothing but FACTS presented here, and you have nothing to offer except name calling.
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LOL.... soon, just soon

You haters will get the world you all want, Disease, flies, starvation, Mad Max and more

The Government will pull out and then it will be up to you to figure out how to haul clean water, get electricity and deal with the gangs and looters

Mark my words, something is en route from the skies that will make your dreams come true
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WTF. Are you offering to distribute it? Do you have a vial you are going to screw people over with?
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No, I am simply saying if those that are so against vaccinations had their way, Smallpox would once again be rife. Some vaccinations are lifesavers - Rabies being another disease you would not want to catch and no, I do not have the ingredients for that either!!!

Vaccinations have their place.

Your posting by the way just proves how paranoid some people are.

Of course I fucking do not have a vial of the Smallpox vaccine!!

Are you for real or what???
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Tell these freaks theres a camera in their fridge and a spy hiding in their bushes outside, Theyll believe it, lol
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You have yet to contribute anything to this discussion other than insults and lies. You have ignored everything I have posted, including the vaccine compensation fund started by Reagan in the 80s that has now paid well over a BILLION dollars in vaccine damage claims, yet you have the audacity to call us paranoid freaks? There are nothing but FACTS presented here, and you have nothing to offer except name calling.
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All I have to do is sit down with Great Grandma and hear how many kids she lost and how many relatives have died and how bad life used to be

Grow up, You have it sooo easy now

If TPTB wanted to hurt people. all theyd have to do is do nothing, disease, drought, gangs would take care of the rest.

One in Ten women used to die by Childbirth btw. If you are so distrustful of the Medical Association, you should hear how many babies and Moms died before intervention and hospital births.





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