Elenin and YU55 - Flypaper for Conspiracy Theorists | |
Psyop a Success (OP) User ID: 1158127 United States 10/19/2011 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1158127 United States 10/19/2011 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My thoughts exactly!!! While we were all busy 'checking out' Ele, and now busy 'checking out' YU55......what are they really doing??? They will always be at least one step ahead of us, they always have been and always will be!!! Quoting: JustMoi Exactly. Plus it totally muddied the waters with respect to Planet X. Elenin + YU55 = |
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Halcyon Dayz, FCD User ID: 1222987 Netherlands 10/19/2011 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.minorplanetcenter.net] [link to www.minorplanetcenter.org] Reaching for the sky makes you taller. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
JustMoi User ID: 3617025 Ireland 10/19/2011 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone gave this thread one star because they're one of these people: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1158127 >> Elenin and YU55 burned alot of conspira-tards, and I understand there's a lot of hurt feelings out there...a lot of people are still angry My thoughts exactly!!! While we were all busy 'checking out' Ele, and now busy 'checking out' YU55......what are they really doing??? They will always be at least one step ahead of us, they always have been and always will be!!! Quoting: JustMoi Exactly. Plus it totally muddied the waters with respect to Planet X. Elenin + YU55 = It's discredited Planet X for sure!! I think it was an ideal time for the newly awakened to go right back to sleep, i know some who did, they just thought, 'this is all a load of BS'!! Maybe that was part of 'thier' plan!!! |
Astromut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1322561 United States 10/19/2011 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neither NASA nor the ESA nor any government of any country would tell you about anything that actually posed a threat. It would be classified. Quoting: Psyop a Success 1158127 2008 TC3. About an hour and a half after it was first detected, an amateur astronomer was already observing it himself and logging astrometric measurements of its position. Based on the data they had up until that point, a mere 6 astrometric readings in a short span of time, they had no way of knowing if that asteroid was actually going to hit earth or not, but there was a possibility it would impact in December and given its brightness at that time in October, that would mean it was a sizeable asteroid and a serious threat. With only an hour and a half of observations to go on, the orbital determination from that data can neither guarantee nor rule out an impact due to the uncertainty of the orbit determined from such a short span of time. I've run it myself. All they knew was that it would approach earth very closely and might even impact, but the date given by just those first 6 observations was a couple months down the road and indicated the asteroid was still quite far away, meaning it must be quite a sizeable object. It wasn't until 8 hours from then, after amateur astronomers already had the data in hand and were observing it themselves, that they would realize with certainty that this asteroid really was going to hit earth, but that it was going to do so in less than a day, meaning it was much closer to earth than the initial 6 astrometric readings would suggest and therefore much smaller than those 6 readings would suggest. Based on the astrometric readings they had 8 hours after discovery, I do show an impact occurring on October 7th. Based on just the first set of readings though, from the point at which amateurs first started contributing observations, they had no way of knowing for sure or that it was only a small asteroid. An impact was not out of the realm of possibility for that December, and had it been large enough to be that bright while still that far away in October, it would have meant the asteroid would have been large enough to do some damage. NASA did nothing to try to keep it hidden until they found out that it was actually just a small rock that would do no damage when it hit. They couldn't. The minor planet center already published its discovery. We have spent close to 11 months since Elenin was discovered in December of 2010 obsessing over these insignificant objects that NASA/JPL put right in front of your faces so that the drooling masses would spend all their time obsessing over this nonsense, Quoting: OPYou did it to yourselves. NASA told you it wasn't a threat, they literally told you, but no one listened. NASA had no control over the name or when it would make its perihelion (which was the 10th, not the 11th, which CT'ers lied about, not NASA). Those were factors out of their hands. thereby preventing us from researching whatever it is that they're truly concerned about. Quoting: OPNo one has prevented you from doing anything. Many people, both professional and amateur astronomers, tried to tell you it was nothing, you didn't listen. Maybe you should listen next time. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/19/2011 10:28 AM |
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get_over_it User ID: 1298231 Canada 10/19/2011 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's too early to make any definitive statements on YU55, for obvious reasons. Hopefully the JPL orbital plots are accurate and not some BS disinformation cover-up. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. |