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Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The world needs to know the sacrafice albanians made for christianity. Just watch the documentary. imagine how overwhelmned rome would of been if the ottomans took a hold of it. But NO!, we saved christianity.. a nod would be appreciated from those 2 posters above.. and today: muslim albanians side with the turks, because after the fall of skenderbeg, albanians become leaders in the ottoman empire and were sometimes the leading figures for 400 years.. thats the muslim albanians.. the christian albanians: alot are in italy (arbresh) they escaped during the ottoman invasion. christian albanians hate turks and arabs.. very racist towards them. Albanian-1 |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can see this Scanderbeg fella is a national hero, but really only an Albanian would claim he saved Europe. The Ottomans didnt need to defeat the Albanian region to reach Italy, they would just drive up though the old FYR region. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7011434 what? the FYR region? thats east of albania, how could that be strategic for the turks??? fact is, the only way the turks could of had a successful attack on rome would of been through albania, not east or north of it. Albanian-1 |
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Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898032 hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it.. i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity. Albanian-1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1898032 Netherlands 12/17/2011 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 Serbians were also defending Europe at the gates of Vienna. Excuse do you know where the frontier was? In Serbian Krajina where Serbian men were lifetime soldiers defending Europe. |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer. its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number. Albanian-1 |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 Serbians were also defending Europe at the gates of Vienna. Excuse do you know where the frontier was? In Serbian Krajina where Serbian men were lifetime soldiers defending Europe. bro, i know serbs faught too, im not denying that at all, i never under estimated the serb and hungarian struggle. kuddos to the serbs of that time... Albanian-1 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1223243 12/17/2011 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer. its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number. The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1898032 Netherlands 12/17/2011 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898032 hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it.. i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity. It's a historical fact. He did also convert to islam. Albanians, Serbians and Croatians are not Illiryans or ancient Greeks just because they mixed with them. Albanians love to steel other people's religion, culture and history. Just like in Kosovo, the albanian muslims destroyed serbian-orthodox monasteries and now the albanian muslims want to falsify history as to make those serbian monasteries their own. Albanians try to destroy all Serbian presence and culture in muslim occupied Kosovo. |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer. its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number. The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial. The albanian identity is a long long one. Our language can be traced to that of the palasgians, who were the people before the greeks. Albanians have always had an identity no matter what, even under roman rule, and ottoman rule, we never deviated from albanian langugage, blood, and culture, truly a one of a kind.. so criticms like yours are uncalled for. Albania today is about 60 percent muslim if that, and the rest christian. Albanian-1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1223243 12/17/2011 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You mean illyrians. They were badass and killed many turks but they were killed, raped and forced to assimilate. Who really saved europe from ottoman empire was the polish cavalry at the gates of vienna. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1223243 yes!! thank you for the support my man.. the albanian(illyrian) sacrifice should never be forgotten.. they single handedly embarrassed the MASSIVE ottoman empire and kept them at bay for half a century until albanians couldnt fight any longer. its just like the movie 300, u have skilled guys, but only a limited number. The people living in albania are no longer illyrians anyway. They are turks in denial. The albanian identity is a long long one. Our language can be traced to that of the palasgians, who were the people before the greeks. Albanians have always had an identity no matter what, even under roman rule, and ottoman rule, we never deviated from albanian langugage, blood, and culture, truly a one of a kind.. so criticms like yours are uncalled for. Albania today is about 60 percent muslim if that, and the rest christian. It's not criticism, it's a fact. Today albanians are different from illyrians, like it or not. You have turkish blood. You are different ethnically from caucasians. Deal with it. |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Skenderbeg was ethnic half Serbian and religously he was Serbian-Orthodox Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1898032 hahahahah bro just because serbs dont have national heroes, doesnt mean you have to try and steal someone elses. its really emberrasing.. Its like me saying Bush was albanian hahahahhaha delete your comment before somebody sees it.. i know serbs admire him, which they should, after all, albanians of that time did save christianity. It's a historical fact. He did also convert to islam. Albanians, Serbians and Croatians are not Illiryans or ancient Greeks just because they mixed with them. Albanians love to steel other people's religion, culture and history. Just like in Kosovo, the albanian muslims destroyed serbian-orthodox monasteries and now the albanian muslims want to falsify history as to make those serbian monasteries their own. Albanians try to destroy all Serbian presence and culture in muslim occupied Kosovo. yeah? you wanna go that far? how about this!!! you slavs migrated to europe in the 7th century. europe WAS NOT your home. you come from sibera, russia, its a fact, historical FACT, no denial.. that means slavs are visitors to europe, and the land u claim as serbia was illyrian(albanian) and u came and stole it with your huge numbers. As for Kosovo, it was known was DARDANIA by the albanians.. so i would sit quietly when it comes to land buddy. you stole our land because your not originally from europe.. capish? did i insult u? learn history, and know that albanians are one of the first in the european penisila, outdating germans, and italians, who came only later on. Albanian-1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7233411 Australia 12/17/2011 05:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, I didn't realise it was so brief, most people here post really long stuff no-one watches, but that was quite short. Bit difficult for a non-European to comment, never heard of this guy, but yeah it's possibly very significant in staving off the precursor to Islam. Interesting! |
Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 05:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok, I didn't realise it was so brief, most people here post really long stuff no-one watches, but that was quite short. Bit difficult for a non-European to comment, never heard of this guy, but yeah it's possibly very significant in staving off the precursor to Islam. Interesting! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7233411 thanks my man. its brief and to the point. such a significant time in history!! the identity of the albanian shall always be remembered through their warrior king; Skenderbeg! Albanian-1 |
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Albanian-1 (OP) User ID: 3037750 Canada 12/17/2011 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cant compare vlad to skenderbeg and the albanians... vlad was defeated, skenderbeg was not!, his defeat was natural death... vlad did resist the ottoman but he lost... albanians didnt lose, but when our general died, albanians couldnt find a hero with equal charisma and power, which led to our downfall Albanian-1 |