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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12221483 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other. In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups) I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 03/09/2012 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all truth goes through three stages. first it is ridiculed. then it is violently" opposed. finally, it is accepted as self-evident. political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12222544 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | all truth goes through three stages. first it is ridiculed. then it is violently" opposed. finally, it is accepted as self-evident. Quoting: Phennommennonn all truth goes through three stages. first it is ridiculed. then it is violently" opposed. finally, it is accepted as self-evident. Quoting: Phennommennonn |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11499007 Germany 03/09/2012 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12221483 I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other. In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups) I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies. They do stab everyone in the back for gain. Just not other masons. They collectively feed off other people as a group for personal gain. Ever heard of gangstalking ? |
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Judethz User ID: 5159851 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They do stab everyone in the back for gain. Just not other masons. They collectively feed off other people as a group for personal gain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11499007 Ever heard of gangstalking ? Having had a fairly highish level Freemason in the family who died last year I agree with you. They will attempt to rob other family members and will sneer at you and despise you while they are doing it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12221483 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12221483 I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other. In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups) I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies. They do stab everyone in the back for gain. Just not other masons. They collectively feed off other people as a group for personal gain. Ever heard of gangstalking ? I have no intentions of defending the Masons, I know enough about them not to do that, I was just pointing out what I see.. and while they might stab non Masons in the back for personal gain they do not stab their own in the back, which is one step up from the norm in todays society. My issue is that our communities have been torn apart and been made worthless, where people once supported each other (yes to the detriment of those outside their community)they now stab each other in the back for the slightest gain, and it was on that note I was making the comparison. |
1342725 User ID: 1342725 United States 03/09/2012 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They do stab everyone in the back for gain. Just not other masons. They collectively feed off other people as a group for personal gain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11499007 Ever heard of gangstalking ? Having had a fairly highish level Freemason in the family who died last year I agree with you. They will attempt to rob other family members and will sneer at you and despise you while they are doing it. |
MoonChildChazz User ID: 8748751 United States 03/09/2012 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. True Freemasons are geometric engineers draftsmen. That art has been used in the past for many great buildings of energy combine with astronomy. There secret is old news & act as they are a cult of elite secret men holding power. Chazz |
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Anonymous Widows Son User ID: 1342645 United States 03/09/2012 05:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ignoring the conspiracies for a moment, I do like the way they support each other in times of distress.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12221483 I know a number of masons and they are always helping each other out, be it with support for family issues or with work and finances, they seem to go out of their way to help each other. In a society where it is normal to stab everyone else in the back for the slightest perceived gain I admire that one trait in Masons (and like minded groups) I will point out that I do dislike all the Masonic cloak and dagger nonsense, and dislike the way they seem to have their fingers in some of the many seedier conspiracies. Yes, i quite agree. Coming from masonic family I know they stick together and help each other and I know they do a lot of good. But their membership varies as widely as the non masons in their integrity and morality. I also know they are quite charitable. But they are involved in many shady practices that act to control society from behind the scenes. This did not start out being an evil intention, bit based on the proper and correct principal that the intelligent and moral should make decisions concerning how society will proceed in general. For instance I know they have control over groups such as CPS and will often remove children with desirable characteristics from their families on pulmulgated accusations of wrongdoing. This is very often done with the intent of providing children to Freemasons who should not have access to children. If you speak against them they will give you the silent dagger treatment, which is not denied among them. They can and will destroy your reputation and make life difficult for you through such tactics as organized spreading of disinformation and gangstalking tactics. If you ever suspect you are being targeted by them and end up being prosecuted because you have spoken out and exposed one of wrongdoing unknowingly or criticized the whole organization in general, remember that every juror is selected by the defense who has the right to reject any juror who is a member of secret society. YOU MUST MAKE ABSOLUTE CERTAIN THAT NOT A SINGLE JUROR IS A MASON, OR THIS INDIVIDUAL WILL DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO GET YOU CONVICTED, INCLUDING THE MOST COMMON TACTIC OF WEARING THE JURY DOWN . A JURY IS A GROUP OF NORMAL PEOPLE WHOSE UNDERLYING DESIRE IS NATURALLY TO GET THE DELIBERATION OVER AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND RETURN TO THEIR NORMAL LIVES.. THIS MEANS 11 JURORS CAN EASILY BE SWAYED BY 1 HOLDOUT! If your lawyer refuses to ask this question Of jurors, FIRE HIM immediately. Do not listen to excuses such as you will alienate the judge , the police, or the prosecutor, they are legally conspiring against you anyway using every tactic at their disposal including lying and fabricating evidence and suppressing exculpultory evidence.. . Secret societies have no business infiltrating grand juries or juries in criminal cases and deciding whether people are imprisoned or convicted or not, no matter how good their intentions may seem to be. According to due process of law, the accused is supposed to be judged by a jury of their peers, and a member of a secret society is NOT the peer of a person who is not a member of a secret society. This has already came out in several court cases and precedents set. It is usurpation of the criminal justice system and of the legal due process of the criminal justice process in general. All witnesses should be asked if they are members of secret societies as well, because it is the jury that decides your guilt and non masons tend to be highly suspicious of Masons and your asking them if they are Masons will have direct effect on their overall thinking in considering your case if a witness is a Mason. It might completed negate any negative testimony against you by the admitted Mason and turn a conviction into an acquittal. Remember that in general people do not trust Masons and Masons have an overall poor reputation with most non Masons, it is natural human tendency to be repulsed by secret proceedings and special privileges. .....if one juror lies and turns out to be a member of a secret society the trial must be retried, it is a mistrial. Their membership is impossible to keep secret, they meet twice per month at their local lodge. Remember, do not be afraid to ask, because it will make a major difference in the outcome of your trial and you have every right to exclude Masonic jurors. You do not however have any control over Masonic judges or prosecutors, which are more common than not, and they can and will attempt to affect the outcome of any trial involving a person who has crossed them or exposed any wrongdoing on their part. They completely control the criminal justice system except for the selection of juries and legal representation It is difficult but not impossible to find a lawyer who is not Freemason, and if your lawyer is a a Freemason and you have been targeted by them you are as good as convicted. I do not say any of the above with the intent to offend anyone, but to reveal critical facts that can mean the difference between being wrongfully persecuted or acquitted. Even though I am supposed to be under the protection of Freemasons, my personal experience with them is that they are offended by my candor and my honesty, which is unfortunate. My overall characteristics are supposed to be what they support overtly. This group could be used to accomplish great things were it not for the infiltration of a corrupt few , who have wrenched control over the entire organization in the last century. The basic premise and beliefs of Freemasons do not conflict with my own in any way, it is just that the tendency in any group is for the worst among them to eventually gain control, and this goes for any organization from a government to a corporation, It is just human nature for those with no integrity or moral boundaries to climb over the top of the just and the square dealing (which is supposed to be a founding principal of Freemasonry), and assume control of any organization. I would gladly join the Freemasons if the corrupt among them were forcibly removed. |
Richard S. User ID: 10161328 Germany 03/09/2012 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They realize a major part of the population of the world are waking up to these slimy cult pricks.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9128390 No, they realize, that the majority of population is like the GLPlers and will never ever get the idea, that "freemason" Breivik was already a setup, let alone the recent management change @ Deutsche Bank etc. etc., so a sub organization is difficult to control. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12222544 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 05:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They realize a major part of the population of the world are waking up to these slimy cult pricks.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9128390 No, they realize, that the majority of population is like the GLPlers and will never ever get the idea, that "freemason" Breivik was already a setup, let alone the recent management change @ Deutsche Bank etc. etc., so a sub organization is difficult to control. So who is trying to set up the freemasons, Einstein ? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8597527 United States 03/09/2012 05:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Article tries to debunk freemasonic conspiracies and want to recruit new sheep. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12219700 [link to www.bbc.co.uk] more externalization of the hierarchy |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12200296 United Kingdom 03/09/2012 06:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You just have to ask yourself, if there is no conspiracy then how does this get to be on the front page of the worlds biggest and most famous state run tv website? surely there are much more important issues to be adressed? The power of the Freemasons eh? |