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THE MESSIAH WAS NOT RESURRECTED ON SUNDAY MORNING!YOU BEEN LIED TO, CASE CLOSED AND SOLVED PLEASE READ!

 
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The sign of Jonah is that Christ will be buried for three nights and three days.

It is crucial that we understand that the Hebrew day begins and ends at sunset. How do we know that? Let us consider Gen. 1:4, “…..and the evening and the morning were the first day. And 1:8, “…..and the evening and the morning were the second day”. And 1:13, “…..and the evening and the morning were the third day”. See also verses 19, 23 and 31. Please note that in every case, the order is first the evening, and then the day.

This is even true today, that is to say, jewish people today count sunset as the beginning and the end of the day.

The sign of Jonah is explained in Matt. 12:39-41. That passage reads, “But He answered and said unto them, ‘An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth’”.

What does the sign of Jonah tell us and what does it not tell us. That He would be “in the heart of the earth” What is important is that the sign of Jonah is that Christ would be buried for three days and for three nights.

We read in Jn. 20:1, “the first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher”. The first day of the week is our Sunday. How do we know that? We know that from the fact that we read in Lev. 23:3, “Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest…”. jewish people today who keep the sabbath, keep it on Saturday. Because Jewish traditions have been kept without break from the time of Christ to this day, we may, in my opinion, conclude that Saturday was the sabbath day in the time of Christ as it is today. If Saturday is the weekly sabbath, the seventh day, (and I believe it is) that makes Sunday the first day of the week.

So Mary Magdalene went to the sepulcher early on Sunday morning while it was still dark, and she found it empty. the term “after three days” will prove from Scripture that Christ was indeed buried for three full days and three full nights. But Mary went to the tomb while it was still dark, which tells us that Christ was not there all of Saturday night. Therefore, because Christ was not in the tomb for all of Saturday night, Saturday night can not be counted as the third night.

Christ was buried at sunset Wednesday. If we count from Wednesday at sunset to Saturday at sunset we will have three whole days and three whole nights. So the first night of His burial was Wednesday sunset to Thursday sunrise. The first day of His burial was Thursday sunrise to Thursday sunset. The second night of His burial was Thursday sunset to Friday’s sunrise. The second day of His burial was Friday’s sunrise to Friday’s sunset. The third night of His burial was Friday’s sunset to Saturday’s sunrise. And the thirdday of His burial was Saturday’s sunrise to Saturday’s sunset. In short, Christ was raised some time after sunset on Saturday night.

Most Christians believe that Christ was buried on Friday and raised on Sunday. But that is only two days and two nights and the sign of Jonah is that Christ would be buried three days and three nights.

Difficulty comes from a misunderstanding of Luke 23:52-54 which reads, “This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. And He took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulcher that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on”.

The thinking of most today is that this sabbath was the weekly sabbath which began at Friday sunset. But again, the sign of Jonah is that Christ would be buried three days and nights, and Friday to Sunday is only two. There are no contradictions in the Word of God so we must consider this passage further.

We know that Christ was killed on the day of Passover because Paul wrote in I Cor. 5:7 that Christ is our Passover. In other words, Christ was the antitype of the passover lamb that was sacrificed on passover and in order to fulfill the type, He was killed on passover. We read in Lev. 23:5-7, “In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein”. Please note that the passover itself is not a sabbath. That is to say the law does not say that there shall no servile work be done on passover. We must not add to the Word of God something that is not there. Therefore, because we are not told that the passover was a sabbath, I believe that it is not a sabbath.

This passage tells us that the day after passover is the feast of unleavened bread, the first day of which they were not allowed to do any servile work, i.e. it was a sabbath. It was just before this sabbath, not the weekly sabbath, on which Christ was killed. This is the sabbath mentioned in Luke 23:54.
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Also we read in Mark 15:25, “And it was the third hour and they crucified Him”. Then in Matt. 27:46 we read, “and about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is to say, ‘My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?’”. And in verse 50, “Jesus, when He had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost”.

We learn from these verses that Christ was hung on the cross at the third hour and died at the ninth hour. Now the question is, the third and the ninth hour from when? The day begins at sunset. If we reckon the sixth hour and the ninth hour from sunset that would make the time of Christ’s crucifixion from around midnight to 3:00 the next morning. But we read in Matt. 27:45, “Now from the sixth hour there was darknessover all the land unto the ninth hour”. If Christ hung on the cross from midnight to 3:00 in the morning, it would have been dark anyway, and that would make the statement of Matt. 27:45 meaningless. Therefore, that the time is reckoned from sunrise. That is to say, if sunrise is about 6:00 A.M then the third to ninth hours (the time Christ hung on the cross) would have been from 9:00 A.M. to 3:00 P. M., and that makes more sense because it would not normally have been dark at those hours.

We read in several other passages that even though the Hebrew day does begin at sunset, the time in some scriptures is reckoned from when the day, as opposed to night, is reckoned, i.e. from sunrise. For example, we read in Matt. 20 of the parable of the hired labourers. We read in verses 2-3, For the kingdom of Heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the marketplace”. In this passage we have “the third hour” described as “early in the morning”. If the third hour is reckoned from sunrise, the third hour would be about 9:00 A. M.. This makes perfect sense.

That leaves Jn. 19:14-1 into this topic which reads, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the jewish people, ‘Behold your King!’. But they cried out, ‘Away with Him, away with Him, crucify Him’….”. This passage records the hours before Christ was actually hung on the cross, and it says it was the “sixth hour“. But we read in Mark 15 that Christ was crucified beginning with the third hour. There are, of course, no contradictions in the Word of God. Therefore, I suggest John records Gentile time, which begins at midnight.

John wrote for the benefit of the Gentiles.
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Also we read in Mark 15:25, “And it was the third hour and they crucified Him”. Then in Matt. 27:46 we read, “and about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is to say, ‘My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?’”. And in verse 50, “Jesus, when He had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost”.

We learn from these verses that Christ was hung on the cross at the third hour and died at the ninth hour. Now the question is, the third and the ninth hour from when? The day begins at sunset. If we reckon the sixth hour and the ninth hour from sunset that would make the time of Christ’s crucifixion from around midnight to 3:00 the next morning. But we read in Matt. 27:45, “Now from the sixth hour there was darknessover all the land unto the ninth hour”. If Christ hung on the cross from midnight to 3:00 in the morning, it would have been dark anyway, and that would make the statement of Matt. 27:45 meaningless. Therefore, that the time is reckoned from sunrise. That is to say, if sunrise is about 6:00 A.M then the third to ninth hours (the time Christ hung on the cross) would have been from 9:00 A.M. to 3:00 P. M., and that makes more sense because it would not normally have been dark at those hours.

We read in several other passages that even though the Hebrew day does begin at sunset, the time in some scriptures is reckoned from when the day, as opposed to night, is reckoned, i.e. from sunrise. For example, we read in Matt. 20 of the parable of the hired labourers. We read in verses 2-3, For the kingdom of Heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the marketplace”. In this passage we have “the third hour” described as “early in the morning”. If the third hour is reckoned from sunrise, the third hour would be about 9:00 A. M.. This makes perfect sense.

That leaves Jn. 19:14-1 into this topic which reads, “And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the jewish people, ‘Behold your King!’. But they cried out, ‘Away with Him, away with Him, crucify Him’….”. This passage records the hours before Christ was actually hung on the cross, and it says it was the “sixth hour“. But we read in Mark 15 that Christ was crucified beginning with the third hour. There are, of course, no contradictions in the Word of God. Therefore, I suggest John records Gentile time, which begins at midnight.

John wrote for the benefit of the Gentiles.
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They had already had that day in reverence (I meant Eostre the celebration/fertility rites) of the equinox at spring

the church codified it to be the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Spring equinox, to honour the Sun God

Whose worship consists in large, essential part, of the Goddess, mother of God, Ishtar/Inanna/Shing Moo/Isis/Ast/'Mary', all virgins, all mothers.

We are not supposed to believe this shit.

Miriam the real mother of Yahushua, the real messiah, was a mother of many, not only of Yahushua.

Not a perpetual virgin! Why do Catholics get off on such a falsity as perpetual virgin? Because it was Isis who said, 'No man hath lifted my veil'. It is an ancient lie. You Christians are really fooled. Wake up please.
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Very interesting and I believe accurate about Eostre on down to the part about Mary not a perpetual virgin. I don't know how many other children she had, but it was at least 2 , right?
But, I've read that ,rather than 2 sabbaths that week:
According to the Law of Moses, Nisan 15 was always a special Sabbath regardless of the day on which it fell. If it coincided with an ordinary Sabbath, then the day became known as a “great” Sabbath, and John 19:31 shows that such a Sabbath followed the day of Jesus’ death, which was therefore a Friday. And not in 31 or 32 but only in 33 C.E. did the 14th of Nisan fall on a Friday. Therefore, it must have been on Nisan 14, 33 C.E., that Jesus died.

And this:

Jesus, being a jewish under the Law, observed the Sabbath as God’s Word (not the Pharisees) directed. He knew it was lawful to do fine things on the Sabbath. (Mt 12:12) However, the inspired Christian writings state that “Christ is the end of the Law” (Ro 10:4), which results in Christians’ being “discharged from the Law.” (Ro 7:6) Neither Jesus nor his disciples made any distinction between so-called moral and ceremonial laws. They quoted from the other parts of the Law as well as from the Ten Commandments and considered all of it equally binding on those under the Law. (Mt 5:21-48; 22:37-40; Ro 13:8-10; Jas 2:10, 11) The Scriptures plainly state that Christ’s sacrifice “abolished . . . the Law of commandments consisting in decrees” and that God “blotted out the handwritten document against us, which consisted of decrees . . . and He has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the torture stake.” It was the complete Mosaic Law that was “abolished,” “blotted out,” taken “out of the way.” (Eph 2:13-15; Col 2:13, 14) Consequently, the whole system of Sabbaths, be they days or years, was brought to its end with the rest of the Law by the sacrifice of Christ Jesus. This explains why Christians can esteem “one day as all others,” whether it be a sabbath or any other day, with no fear of judgment by another. (Ro 14:4-6; Col 2:16) Paul made the following expression concerning those scrupulously observing “days and months and seasons and years”: “I fear for you, that somehow I have toiled to no purpose respecting you.”—Ga 4:10, 11.
After Jesus’ death, his apostles at no time commanded Sabbath observance. The Sabbath was not included as a Christian requirement at Acts 15:28, 29, or later. Nor did they institute a new sabbath, a “day of the Lord.” Even though Jesus was resurrected on the day now called Sunday, nowhere does the Bible indicate that this day of his resurrection should be commemorated as a “new” sabbath or in any other way. First Corinthians 16:2 and Acts 20:7 have been appealed to by some as a basis for observing Sunday as a sabbath. However, the former text merely indicates that Paul instructed Christians to lay aside in their homes for their needy brothers at Jerusalem a certain amount each first day of the week. The money was not to be turned in at their place of meeting but was to be retained until Paul’s arrival. As for the latter text, it was only logical that Paul would meet with the brothers in Troas on the first day of the week, since he was leaving the very next day.
From the foregoing it is clear that literal observance of Sabbath days and years was not a part of first-century Christianity. It was not until 321 C.E. that Constantine decreed Sunday (Latin: dies Solis, an old title associated with astrology and sun worship, not Sabbatum [Sabbath] or dies Domini [Lord’s day]) to be a day of rest for all but the farmers.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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