Why would any non-military person need a semi-automatic weapon? | |
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RF User ID: 1287633 United States 12/20/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a gun owner and have no emotional attachment to my guns. That makes me super-qualified to answer.. But first let me clear some stuff up. When I was in the army I had an m-16 issued to me. The m-16 has a selector switch. The shooter can switch from safe to single shot to burst. A burst is 3 shots. most shooting was done on single shot because you are firing at a target at varying distances. this essentially means that any AR can function exactly like an m-16, as long as both are shooting just 1 bullet with 1 pull of the trigger. that being said, the rationale is this: it makes shooting more fun by making it easier. it is similar to asking what the rationale for power steering is. Ever drive a car with no power steering? It sucks! there is absolutely no other answer. Single shot guns suck. Bolt action is accurate but is nowhere near the fun level. That's it! since guns are legal to own then it makes sense to buy the most fun gun out there. This is why semi-auto's are popular right now, because for years they were banned and then suddenly they weren't.. And they're a shitload of fun! some pricks will write "because it drops the bad guys faster". Or "because when I have to defend my freedoms it provides great protection" but this is bullshit.. The fact is that they are 1) cooler than shit looking and 2) funner than shit to shoot and 3) currently perfectly legal! that's it! That's the God honest truth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29307060 United States 12/20/2012 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would any Military personnel want a semi-automatic weapon is the question you should be asking yourself. Even the Military recognizes that Full auto wastes ammo for very little results. Great for suppression fire, but that is about it. Then there is this: "The U.S. military is re-evaluating the Army’s use of the M4 rifle in Afghanistan following concerns that the Taliban’s primitive AK-47’s are proving more effective. The M4 is an updated version of the M16, which was designed for close quarters combat in Vietnam. But while the weapon is better suited for the kind of urban warfare common in Iraq, some have questioned whether it is deadly and accurate for Afghanistan – where U.S. troops often find themselves in long-range combat. An Army study found that the 5.56mm bullets fired from the M4s don’t retain enough velocity past 1,000 feet to kill an enemy. In Afghanistan, forces are often up to 2,500 feet apart." Not all weapons are created equal. Each has its purpose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144869 United States 12/20/2012 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Amendment gives us the right. It's not a question of need. That whole inalienable rights thing. Simply put, the government should have no say in how I defend myself. The Constitution wasn't written to tell me what to do, but to tell the government what they cannot do. Quoting: BioReaper The Amendments to the Constitution don't GIVE you anything! Do you understand what I'm saying here? I'm a Brit, and I evidently know more about your Bill of Rights than you do! He knows that. You do understand that we're talking colloquially, right? He is right though. Too many people today assume our rights are granted by the government. That is a very dangerous idea. What the government can give, it can also take away. And yeah I was speaking colloquially Yes, most definitely! I think most (well, I hope most of us) gun owners know this. Excuse me for coming off brusquely. I've become rather irritated at the Brits and Australians over the past few days on GLP. |
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no-one-special User ID: 30210590 United States 12/20/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because trying to rationalize with an attacker trying to kill me does not work...... Quoting: no-one-special but...but...but..... You have a cellphone! Yes....but I will be dead before they get there.... Why die wile trying to call a man with a gun to save me, when I could live by use my own to save myself. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19818372 United States 12/20/2012 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know, why would any non-racecar driver ever need a car that can go faster than the speed limit? Why did the civilians of several other countries need military style weapons in the last few years? Why is it that when someone is shooting at your enemy he is a freedom fighter but when they are shooting at you they are a terrorist? |
Chrit User ID: 27088294 United States 12/20/2012 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got my first semi-auto at the age of 3! The gun my father gave me he bought with his own money at the age of 8! He carried that gun to school nearly every day and kept it loaded in his locker just like the rest of the kids in his school, no one shot anyone back then in school. Don’t try to blame anyone but your own family for not teaching you how to properly handle a fire arm. Like a person who fears a cat because they heard cats might scratch you if you handle them wrong. :Ba22: I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17208041 United States 12/20/2012 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you can't quite comprehend Article 2 of the Bill of Rights? "The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" is too ambiguous? How about Article 9 regarding non-enumerated rights? The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. [link to www.ushistory.org] In other words, the rights of the people are inalienable and cannot be denied simply because they are not outlined specifically. Or, just because it doesn't say it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Otherwise, there would be no "right to privacy" because it doesn't say that anywhere in the U.S. Constitution, specifically. There would be no right to abortion, or gay marriage (or marriage for that matter), or to any number of other inalienable rights. This nation was never supposed to have a heavily powerful, centralized government. The power was to reside with the people. Obviously, the power hungry have no interest in the U.S. Constitution nor do most of We, the people, feel compelled to understand our duty and responsibility to not only understand our power but further to implement it. And, that's exactly how the politicians want it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30422424 United Kingdom 12/20/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, you can't quite comprehend Article 2 of the Bill of Rights? "The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" is too ambiguous? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041 How about Article 9 regarding non-enumerated rights? The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. [link to www.ushistory.org] In other words, the rights of the people are inalienable and cannot be denied simply because they are not outlined specifically. Or, just because it doesn't say it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Otherwise, there would be no "right to privacy" because it doesn't say that anywhere in the U.S. Constitution, specifically. There would be no right to abortion, or gay marriage (or marriage for that matter), or to any number of other inalienable rights. This nation was never supposed to have a heavily powerful, centralized government. The power was to reside with the people. Obviously, the power hungry have no interest in the U.S. Constitution nor do most of We, the people, feel compelled to understand our duty and responsibility to not only understand our power but further to implement it. And, that's exactly how the politicians want it. The 9th, is the key! I just wish the 2nd said "The Right of the People to keep and Bear Arms, shall Not Be Infringed". That "militia" shit, and the extra commas, muddied the waters. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22017972 United States 12/20/2012 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMFG.....for the tenth million time its to protect us from the tyranny of evil men and evil govt. WACO, Ruby ridge ring a bell. If not watch waco rules of engagement and get back with me. If not stfu and arm yourself with a nerf gun. |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 12/20/2012 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Amendment gives us the right. It's not a question of need. That whole inalienable rights thing. Simply put, the government should have no say in how I defend myself. The Constitution wasn't written to tell me what to do, but to tell the government what they cannot do. Quoting: BioReaper :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30244341 United States 12/20/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because trying to rationalize with an attacker trying to kill me does not work...... Quoting: no-one-special but...but...but..... You have a cellphone! CALL 911, AND DIE! Cops are always minutes away, when you and your loved ones have seconds, to live! And the cops are just as likely to murder you as the other criminals are. |
Desert Fox User ID: 8786935 United States 12/20/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I got my first semi-auto at the age of 3! The gun my father gave me he bought with his own money at the age of 8! He carried that gun to school nearly every day and kept it loaded in his locker just like the rest of the kids in his school, no one shot anyone back then in school. Quoting: Chrit Don’t try to blame anyone but your own family for not teaching you how to properly handle a fire arm. Like a person who fears a cat because they heard cats might scratch you if you handle them wrong. :Ba22: Super post. :TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30446716 Australia 12/20/2012 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Amendment gives us the right. It's not a question of need. That whole inalienable rights thing. Simply put, the government should have no say in how I defend myself. The Constitution wasn't written to tell me what to do, but to tell the government what they cannot do. Quoting: BioReaper what a red herrring. the 2nd amentment is an excuse coz all ya'll would have granades, rock launchers and tanks.. |
I will tell you User ID: 24211503 United States 12/20/2012 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BECAUSE a goddamn hunting rifle that holds 7 bullets and has to be re -cocked manually after each shot is a massive pain in the ass if a bunch of people are after you. What if two burglars come in and you shoot one and it takes 5 seconds to reload and shoot the second one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9422178 United States 12/20/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats the rationale for military person who been train to kill people with automatic weapons need an a semi-automatic weapon? The answer is the same for the non-military person, the second amendment guarantees both of them the right to own such a weapon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30422424 United Kingdom 12/20/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BECAUSE a goddamn hunting rifle that holds 7 bullets and has to be re -cocked manually after each shot is a massive pain in the ass if a bunch of people are after you. What if two burglars come in and you shoot one and it takes 5 seconds to reload and shoot the second one. Quoting: I will tell you 24211503 Workin' a bolt takes about 1 second. But, that's beside the point. You knew that, didn't you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30244341 United States 12/20/2012 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Amendment gives us the right. It's not a question of need. That whole inalienable rights thing. Simply put, the government should have no say in how I defend myself. The Constitution wasn't written to tell me what to do, but to tell the government what they cannot do. Quoting: BioReaper what a red herrring. the 2nd amentment is an excuse coz all ya'll would have granades, rock launchers and tanks.. So why should the "government" be armed to the teeth, when the people they (supposedly) work for aren't allowed to be armed? |
Chef. User ID: 29889809 United States 12/20/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A gun is a gun! be it one shot or one hundred, if I can own one why not the other. Sad thing is you will always have one or two people no matter what law you pass will still find a way to kill a large number of people just to get on the news. If every one was made to carry a gun you can dam sure bet their would be far less or no killing going on from this day on. Out of the pan into the Fire. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30457197 South Korea 12/20/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me answer YOUR question, with a question? Why Are Domestic Government Agencies Purchasing Enough Lethal Ammunition to Put 5 Rounds In Every American? Aug 17, 2012 ... Government buys ammo for agencies that don't need it. ... (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets Aug 20, 2012 ... Government responses to two recent stories involving the purchasing of hollow point bullets by government agencies are raising more ... A government Of the People, By the People, For the People, Where is MY share of that alleged billion rounds of ammo? |
sssss User ID: 30463352 Australia 12/20/2012 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second Amendment gives us the right. It's not a question of need. That whole inalienable rights thing. Simply put, the government should have no say in how I defend myself. The Constitution wasn't written to tell me what to do, but to tell the government what they cannot do. Quoting: BioReaper As an Australian i say 'THIS' THE CHANGE IS COMING! Spiritual Guidance, Spirit Guide communication, Shamanism & Kundalini. |
Project_Deimos User ID: 999284 United States 12/20/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17846218 United States 12/20/2012 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The militia is that body of civilian men aged 18 to 40 yrs old. It was the desire of the founding fathers that the bulk of military power rest in the hands of this Civilian army. This guarantees that the citizens will always rule. The revolution began when British troops marched on concord to seize the civilian stockpile of powder and ball in order to disarm the people. Read history and know where you came from! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11354573 United States 12/20/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hate stupid...It is SEMI automatic. That means it fires once for every trigger pull. And there are plenty other semi automatics that are far more powerful than a .223 caliber. Everyone is afraid of them because they look mean I guess. And one more thing. The pistols that nut job used were also SEMI auto's. In a close quarters battle a shotgun is a devastating weapon, far more powerful than an AR 15 in .223, you can even get them in SEMI auto too. Also GREAT for hunting rabbits and other cut, furry, and tasty animals. I get so tired of hearing all these gun tards talking crap that they know NOTHING about. |
Waterbug User ID: 1295673 United States 12/20/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4365896 i mean, in China there are so few guns available that all the nutjobs have to use knives. Not a very good comparison. They all know kung-fu.. You go collect all the firearms in this country and I'll learn kung-fu in the meantime. Start in East L.A. You'd better take a gun with you... |