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Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?

 
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Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Hey ignorant asshole!

Why dont we just stop sending out welfare checks and let the fuckers starve.

If one cannot provide for themselves in nature, do you know what happens to them? THEY FUCKING STARVE.

Just the fact that we as a society pay for completely useless people to live is a fucking tragedy.

This is why people like this exist:
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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wow.
you are a genius.
i think the rest of the obamazombies should crown you king!
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Hey ignorant asshole!

Why dont we just stop sending out welfare checks and let the fuckers starve.

If one cannot provide for themselves in nature, do you know what happens to them? THEY FUCKING STARVE.

Just the fact that we as a society pay for completely useless people to live is a fucking tragedy.

This is why people like this exist:

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33971923


Alright, so once your slave labor starves to death who will work for next to nothing to produce your cheap goods? Lol, I can't wait to hear your idiotic response.

And your video is off topic. Even a well paid worker would have a hard time paying for fifteen fucking kids. Solution. Don't have fifteen fucking kids.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
OP is right in a proper society. to bad we have rich fucks who want slaves though.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
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What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
i make minium wage.i work 36 hours a week. i live in a apartment with my girlfriend, dog and a nice fish tank. i have a cell phone and internet. i get ZERO from the government. im about to go back and finish college with a loan. i live comfortably, i cant go out to eat every meal but im happy with my situation considering what i have. if i can do it, anyone can.

too many lazy fuks in this country.

oh. and if the wage goes up to 9 my place of work (a small family owned pet store, not a chain of any kind) WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS. My boss treats us all like family and if she COULD pay us 9 she would, but guess what....she cant.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
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What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
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Your initial premise is a fail, moron, start there.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
So if the worthless get payed 9 an hour do us skilled workers get a comparable raise as well?
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26371136


this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
 Quoting: davvi


What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
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Can you prove that these welfare recipients will jump for joy over $9 an hour and go back into the workforce (presuming they tried in the first place)? No, they won't.

Meanwhile, with increased taxation and an increasing minimum wage, the cost will either drive smaller businesses into the ground, or, the cost will be passed onto us. In either situation, the circumstance becomes more dire for the average American as they are either let go from their job, or, the expend more of their money to eat, clothe, and keep warm.

And your rebuttal is...?
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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What a fucking idiot!

"When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive"....

Hopefully somebody from Australia will chime in and let you know about prices that are "slightly" more expensive.

Check out [link to www.dailyreckoning.com.au] if you can read OP.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
i make minium wage.i work 36 hours a week. i live in a apartment with my girlfriend, dog and a nice fish tank. i have a cell phone and internet. i get ZERO from the government. im about to go back and finish college with a loan. i live comfortably, i cant go out to eat every meal but im happy with my situation considering what i have. if i can do it, anyone can.

too many lazy fuks in this country.

oh. and if the wage goes up to 9 my place of work (a small family owned pet store, not a chain of any kind) WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS. My boss treats us all like family and if she COULD pay us 9 she would, but guess what....she cant.
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Going back to college? With a loan? A student loan, right? That's a government loan. Your statement about getting zero from the government is false. The student loan bubble is about to fuck this country up. Maybe if you made at least 9 bucks an hour you wouldn't need a loan to pay for college.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26371136


this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
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What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
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Your initial premise is a fail, moron, start there.
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Lol. Your statement is what you call an unsubstantiated claim. Sorry. Please try again.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Hey ignorant asshole!

Why dont we just stop sending out welfare checks and let the fuckers starve.

If one cannot provide for themselves in nature, do you know what happens to them? THEY FUCKING STARVE.

Just the fact that we as a society pay for completely useless people to live is a fucking tragedy.

This is why people like this exist:

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wtf someone needs to be held responsible and pay for your 15 children...??? yeah it's you bitch
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
So if the worthless get payed 9 an hour do us skilled workers get a comparable raise as well?
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You are an idiot. You are paying for them to live either way. Either you pay more for goods and they get paid more, or you pay more in taxes and they receive welfare to survive. Damn, you people are stupid.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Do you know what happens when the minimum wage is raised?

Do ya?

Do ya know?

Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty.

$9.00 an hour? Big fucking deal. Oh boy that's a fuck ton of cash there, hell of an increase.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Do you know what happens when the minimum wage is raised?

Do ya?

Do ya know?

Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty.

$9.00 an hour? Big fucking deal. Oh boy that's a fuck ton of cash there, hell of an increase.
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"Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty."
Correct cause all it does is push the poverty level to a new higher dollar amount.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26371136


this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
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What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26371136


Can you prove that these welfare recipients will jump for joy over $9 an hour and go back into the workforce (presuming they tried in the first place)? No, they won't.

Meanwhile, with increased taxation and an increasing minimum wage, the cost will either drive smaller businesses into the ground, or, the cost will be passed onto us. In either situation, the circumstance becomes more dire for the average American as they are either let go from their job, or, the expend more of their money to eat, clothe, and keep warm.

And your rebuttal is...?
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If a small business can't afford to pay workers a living wage they deserve to go out of business. And the cost passed onto you through higher prices will be offset by less welfare that you have to pay for. Damn, you people are airheads.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
I remember when minimum wage was a buck twenty five. Very low welfare then, now its, what, 7.50 and welfare is out of control. So tell me again how the minimum wage hike helps welfare?
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Do you know what happens when the minimum wage is raised?

Do ya?

Do ya know?

Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty.

$9.00 an hour? Big fucking deal. Oh boy that's a fuck ton of cash there, hell of an increase.
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This thread is about raising it to a living wage; not 9 bucks an hour, idiot.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
I remember when minimum wage was a buck twenty five. Very low welfare then, now its, what, 7.50 and welfare is out of control. So tell me again how the minimum wage hike helps welfare?
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Ever heard of inflation you old bastard? Damn, there are so many idiots on this forum.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Do you know what happens when the minimum wage is raised?

Do ya?

Do ya know?

Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty.

$9.00 an hour? Big fucking deal. Oh boy that's a fuck ton of cash there, hell of an increase.
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This thread is about raising it to a living wage; not 9 bucks an hour, idiot.
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So would $10 suffice? $12? $15? Because $10 or $12 or even a bit more isn't going to be enough for most to live off of. Not with a family to support.

What exactly would be good enough for you? How far do you wanna push it?
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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It's hilarious that you actually want to EXHIBIT your stupidity.

If I own a small business and have X dollars to pay labor with, and still make ANY kind of profit, and I employ 5 people at $ 7.25 per hour, my basic wage cost is $ 36.25 per hour.

If the GOVERNMENT butts in and says I MUST pay $ 9 / hr., guess what happens ?

I FIRE someone, and now pay 4 people at $ 9 / hr. = $ 36 / hr.

Minimum wage jobs are STARTING points.

Only morons remain there for life.

Nothing in the Constitution says that you, with no skills, have the "right" to be able to support a wife and 8 children, with a minimum wage job.


Communist Obama will not be happy until doctors make $ 30 / hr., nurses make $ 29 / hr., and hospital orderlies make $ 28 / hr.

Insanity.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Do you know what happens when the minimum wage is raised?

Do ya?

Do ya know?

Nothing. Raising minimum has almost no effect on poverty.

$9.00 an hour? Big fucking deal. Oh boy that's a fuck ton of cash there, hell of an increase.
 Quoting: Debauchery


This thread is about raising it to a living wage; not 9 bucks an hour, idiot.
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So would $10 suffice? $12? $15? Because $10 or $12 or even a bit more isn't going to be enough for most to live off of. Not with a family to support.

What exactly would be good enough for you? How far do you wanna push it?
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Around 11 bucks would be pretty fair.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
Economic illiteracy KILLS
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OP is right in a proper society. to bad we have rich fucks who want slaves though.
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crap! they have them in canada too. :cutehow:
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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It's hilarious that you actually want to EXHIBIT your stupidity.

If I own a small business and have X dollars to pay labor with, and still make ANY kind of profit, and I employ 5 people at $ 7.25 per hour, my basic wage cost is $ 36.25 per hour.

If the GOVERNMENT butts in and says I MUST pay $ 9 / hr., guess what happens ?

I FIRE someone, and now pay 4 people at $ 9 / hr. = $ 36 / hr.

Minimum wage jobs are STARTING points.

Only morons remain there for life.

Nothing in the Constitution says that you, with no skills, have the "right" to be able to support a wife and 8 children, with a minimum wage job.


Communist Obama will not be happy until doctors make $ 30 / hr., nurses make $ 29 / hr., and hospital orderlies make $ 28 / hr.

Insanity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Instead of firing someone and producing less a good businessman would simply raise prices to reflect the higher labor cost. And yes, you're an idiot too.
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this ^^^ is without doubt a product of our american education system. too dumb to live, but unfortunately against the law to eliminate.

:acally:
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What a lame response. Your rebuttle totally failed. Please try again.
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Can you prove that these welfare recipients will jump for joy over $9 an hour and go back into the workforce (presuming they tried in the first place)? No, they won't.

Meanwhile, with increased taxation and an increasing minimum wage, the cost will either drive smaller businesses into the ground, or, the cost will be passed onto us. In either situation, the circumstance becomes more dire for the average American as they are either let go from their job, or, the expend more of their money to eat, clothe, and keep warm.

And your rebuttal is...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24028110


If a small business can't afford to pay workers a living wage they deserve to go out of business. And the cost passed onto you through higher prices will be offset by less welfare that you have to pay for. Damn, you people are airheads.
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what an ass you are the market pays what it can afford. is 9 dollars the same in NYC as it is in podunk alabama? no it isn't so for the fed to get involved will only bring disaster as it usually does.
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When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26371136


The answer would be for them to either get technical training or a college degree. Then they won't have to work for minimum wage.

The minimum wage was never intended to provide anyone a living, it was to make sure employers couldn't take advantage of entry level laborers and student workers.
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Re: Hey Ignorant Assholes. How Do You Justify Bitching About Welfare Recipients If You Oppose Raising The Minimum Wage To A Living Wage?
When employers don't pay unskilled employees a living wage you can buy cheap goods, but society picks up the slack by paying higher taxes for welfare programs. When employers pay unskilled employees a living wage your goods are slightly more expensive, but your taxes aren't used to pay for welfare programs. Get it you fucking idiots?
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Its this kind of shit thinking that has added to the situation we working citizens have found our self in. The education system has produced another generation of fucking failures. Along with another generation of "welfare " thieves. They want to work ??? but not for unskilled labour wages. I wonder how many welfare recipients have considered suing their high school guidance counselor?

Hey OP, do you have a job?





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