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Amazon Secretly Removes "1984" From the Kindle

 
jazzguy

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04/08/2013 12:53 PM
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shocking, but seriouisly why do you people support amazon?..
i get all my ebooks from torrent sites, they aint getting a penny from me
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04/08/2013 12:54 PM
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so what

George got his entire idea for the story from out of the Bible, so if you like 1984, you would LOVE the Bible, because itis much much much WORSErockon
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04/08/2013 12:56 PM
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Thousands of people last week discovered that Amazon had quietly removed electronic copies of George Orwell's 1984 from their Kindle e-book readers. In the process, Amazon revealed how easy censorship will be in the Kindle age.

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Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people's devices and refund them the money they'd paid.

An uproar followed, with outraged customers pointing out the irony that Amazon was deleting copies of a novel about a fascist media state that constantly alters history by changing digital records of what has happened

[snip]

[link to io9.com]




 Quoting: BuggedOut


yes
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04/08/2013 12:57 PM
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"No loyalty except loyalty to the Party" sounds familiar
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04/08/2013 12:57 PM
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kitty 1984 indeed.
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The only thing that the article does not tell you is the truth. Amazon does not own the rights to 1984. They are dependent upon the owner of the rights to sell on their site. I write under a pen name. I have numerous books for sale on Amazon E-books. If I lost a suit to my rights on my books....

Don't laugh, crap like that happens all the time in the legal world. MY wife could divorce me and claim the rights to half of my books and since I live in California, she would probably get that judgment.

... I would have to pull all of the electronic sales of my books under my contract with Amazon and then have my wife relist the book under her contract with Amazon. That would necessitate the removal of my e-books from your kindle.

I suspect something like that happened with 1984.
 Quoting: Hymen Goldstein. 16674316


Yes, but if I bought a hard copy of your book, I would still own the book and the right to read it regardless of what happened to you and your wife.

This is why digital data is dangerous, it can be edited, withdrawn or its distribution and access controlled.

Online services and 'the cloud' should be avoided.
Matt C

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04/08/2013 12:57 PM
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Still have my copy. But thanks for getting me all paranoid.
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04/08/2013 01:13 PM
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and while we were all too busy reading our selection of books which kindle offered us we didn't even notice that those same books were removed from the library shelves...
..one day, we will go looking for a solid 'real' version of those books we heard about in a distant rumour and we will find that our libraries have also been re-moved..
then we'll be told those books never really existed in the first place
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04/08/2013 01:17 PM
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kitty 1984 indeed.
 Quoting: Judethz


The only thing that the article does not tell you is the truth. Amazon does not own the rights to 1984. They are dependent upon the owner of the rights to sell on their site. I write under a pen name. I have numerous books for sale on Amazon E-books. If I lost a suit to my rights on my books....

Don't laugh, crap like that happens all the time in the legal world. MY wife could divorce me and claim the rights to half of my books and since I live in California, she would probably get that judgment.

... I would have to pull all of the electronic sales of my books under my contract with Amazon and then have my wife relist the book under her contract with Amazon. That would necessitate the removal of my e-books from your kindle.

I suspect something like that happened with 1984.
 Quoting: Hymen Goldstein. 16674316


Yes, but if I bought a hard copy of your book, I would still own the book and the right to read it regardless of what happened to you and your wife.

This is why digital data is dangerous, it can be edited, withdrawn or its distribution and access controlled.

Online services and 'the cloud' should be avoided.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11270093


and your next guest may steal your book
Matthew 6:19-21
King James Version (KJV)

19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
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04/08/2013 01:23 PM
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I've had Animal Farm and 1984 in my kindle app for a long time. Both are still present in my library.

Nothing removed from me.
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04/08/2013 01:30 PM
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..this is a 2009 story..
An Amazon spokesman, Drew Herdener, said in an e-mail message that the books were added to the Kindle store by a company that did not have rights to them, using a self-service function. “When we were notified of this by the rights holder, we removed the illegal copies from our systems and from customers’ devices, and refunded customers,” he said.

Amazon effectively acknowledged that the deletions were a bad idea. “We are changing our systems so that in the future we will not remove books from customers’ devices in these circumstances,” Mr. Herdener said.

Customers whose books were deleted indicated that MobileReference, a digital publisher, had sold them. An e-mail message to SoundTells, the company that owns MobileReference, was not immediately returned.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

..if anyone ever bothers to read your agreement with Amazon/Kindle, you agreed to allowing access and removal of material provided/supplied via Amazon. This was a digital recall of a illegal product, the rights to sell 1984 was not held by the seller.

..If this bothers you, rethink the "cloud" computing method(s)...are you backing up your data to a 3rd party? If you think it can't be accessed/deleted etc., your wrong. Don't lose sleep over it, just be aware who you allow to enter/save/collect your data, books etc. Amazon didn't hack into anything, you invited them in as part of a sales agreement.
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04/08/2013 01:31 PM
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This is why I only buy good old fashioned books..... I don't care if they take up tons of space, they are all worth it.
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04/08/2013 01:34 PM
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and while we were all too busy reading our selection of books which kindle offered us we didn't even notice that those same books were removed from the library shelves...
..one day, we will go looking for a solid 'real' version of those books we heard about in a distant rumour and we will find that our libraries have also been re-moved..
then we'll be told those books never really existed in the first place
 Quoting: username 1558792


yes

Satan and his children are clearing the way to build their nest here on Earth, because they know theyare never going to get into Heaven, thus we and all that was we will be utterly removed.

There willnot be one single Christian left on the Earth, within a very short time now, if we donot get back to the arms of our Father and His only begotten son, our brother and saviour, Jesus.

Since wewillnot do it willingly Father is going to help us:
George Washington's Vision:
[link to ibelieveinangels.com]

So i guess this isnot the End Times, yet, sadly.- just another war.
George Washington's Vision:
[link to ibelieveinangels.com]

We still have a long ways to go, and that is going to be toughest of all, but just until we win the war, then things will get back to freedom-living . . . until we forget . . . again . . . then the "End Times" . . . maybe.

OH YEAH! The United States Of America is in fact a Christian Nation:
[link to paminifarm.jeeran.com]
Anonymous Coward
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04/08/2013 01:52 PM
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don't be a moran

[link to www.amazon.com]

pigchef
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check out the DATES on that site
Anonymous Coward
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04/08/2013 09:45 PM
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Thousands of people last week discovered that Amazon had quietly removed electronic copies of George Orwell's 1984 from their Kindle e-book readers. In the process, Amazon revealed how easy censorship will be in the Kindle age.

...

Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people's devices and refund them the money they'd paid.

An uproar followed, with outraged customers pointing out the irony that Amazon was deleting copies of a novel about a fascist media state that constantly alters history by changing digital records of what has happened

[snip]

[link to io9.com]


 Quoting: BuggedOut


Aint that the fucking truth.

I always tell people who have read those books that people like Orwell and Huxley (author of A Brave New World) were actually well respected futurists. They were not condemned for what they wrote by the elite, but were praised for it.

These books were not meant as a warning, they are actually futurist propaganda.

Smoke that in your pipe.
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better book than both of these is Ira Levins "This Perfect Day". about rfid, chemical control, computers that follow nd "approve" everthing, and a society run by the elite for "our own good". great read and really really freaky how accurate his portrayal of the future truly was!

[link to www.amazon.com]
Useless Cookie Eater

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04/08/2013 10:08 PM
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Thousands of people last week discovered that Amazon had quietly removed electronic copies of George Orwell's 1984 from their Kindle e-book readers. In the process, Amazon revealed how easy censorship will be in the Kindle age.

...

Amazon operators used the Kindle wireless network, called WhisperNet, to quietly delete the books from people's devices and refund them the money they'd paid.

An uproar followed, with outraged customers pointing out the irony that Amazon was deleting copies of a novel about a fascist media state that constantly alters history by changing digital records of what has happened

[snip]

[link to io9.com]


 Quoting: BuggedOut


TOLD YA!

....like 2 years ago I posted that they would make Hitlers book burnings obsolete.

:flagthis:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


:facism:
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04/10/2013 07:57 PM
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1984
Jovian

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04/26/2013 09:44 AM
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Indeed, Amazon even keeps track of what you are highlighting in your Kindle...

At this info page, you can see how to view "Popular Highlights" of a particular book, through your Kindle (what everyone else is highlighting) ...


[link to www.amazon.co.uk]


Viewing Popular Highlights

Amazon displays Popular Highlights by combining the highlights of all Kindle customers and identifying the passages with the most highlights. The resulting Popular Highlights help readers focus on passages that are meaningful to the greatest number of people. Some books don't have enough highlighting in them to have Popular Highlights. Popular highlights are marked with a gray dashed underline in your reading. You can see Popular Highlights for all books that have them at kindle.amazon.com.

To view Popular Highlights:
1.Open a book on your Kindle Keyboard.
2.Press the Menu button and select "View Popular Highlights" from the options.

To turn Popular Highlights on and off:
1.Navigate to Kindle Keyboard's Home screen and press the Menu button.
2.Select "Settings".
3.Select the desired option next to "Popular Highlights".

Managing Popular Highlights

If you have a Kindle Keyboard device, you can turn off having your highlights in popular highlights by turning off Annotations Backup in Settings on your device. If you have a Kindle App, we will be adding this capability soon. Annotations BackUp backs up your annotations and last page read and syncs them across devices. You can also remove highlights you made previously from Popular Highlights.

To turn off Annotations Backup:
1.Navigate to Kindle Keyboard's Home screen and press the Menu button.
2.Select "Settings".
3.Select the desired option next to "Annotations Backup".

To remove previous highlights from Popular Highlights:
1.Visit the AmazonKindle website and login using the e-mail address and password for the Amazon account you used to register your Kindle Keyboard.
2.Select "Your Highlights" from the Browse options at the top of the page.
3.Select "Delete this highlight" next to each highlight you wish to remove.

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