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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12877760 United States 06/18/2013 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots to think on... I'll try and comment on this sentence to start: "The world isn't made up of separate things and separate events." I don't know about that. I was thinking with all the things people believe in this world. Our perceptions can only be of this world...or your world...or my world. Wouldn't that be separate? Now, take this example for consideration: I'll use astronomy and astrology. We see the sky and make our horoscopes from this planet. What if we could go to another planet and see the stars from there. Would not the rules of astrology change and be a separate view. Oh well, I need to think about it some more. I'll save this thread and read it over from time to time. It does cause one to think, tho...so, thank you OP |
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Cloud Hidden (OP) User ID: 39292096 United States 06/18/2013 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you should read Carl Jung - dreams , recollections and memories . pertains to your line of thought . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41730345 Thanks dude, Jung is always a good read. Last Edited by Cloud Hidden on 06/18/2013 01:05 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States 06/18/2013 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here read this free book. It should answer all your questions and if nothing else, inspire you to new and bigger ones. [link to www.humanitysteam.ru] |
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Cloud Hidden (OP) User ID: 39292096 United States 06/18/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here read this free book. It should answer all your questions and if nothing else, inspire you to new and bigger ones. Quoting: Seeker of Truth [link to www.humanitysteam.ru] Always up for a new read, thanks |
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Cloud Hidden (OP) User ID: 39292096 United States 06/18/2013 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing. An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us". I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States 06/18/2013 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing. Quoting: Cloud Hidden An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us". I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion.. I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. |
Cloud Hidden (OP) User ID: 39292096 United States 06/18/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing. Quoting: Cloud Hidden An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us". I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion.. I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. "Be the love that you are" I like that sounds easy and effortless, thanks |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41694278 United States 06/18/2013 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing. Quoting: Cloud Hidden An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us". I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion.. I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. "Be the love that you are" I like that sounds easy and effortless, thanks Then you will enjoy this! Beingness is what life is about. Please note it is Excerpted from page 90/91 of the same book I linked earlier: ·Conversations with God · an uncommon dialogue · book 1 Neale Donald Walsch 1992 -1994 [link to www.humanitysteam.ru] "There’s a difference between being and doing, and most people have placed their emphasis on the latter. Shouldn’t they? There’s no “should” or “should not” involved. There’s only what you choose, and how you can have it. If you choose peace and joy and love, you won’t get much of it through what you’re doing. If you choose happiness and contentment, you’ll find little of that on the path of doingness. If you choose reunion with God, supreme knowing, deep understanding, endless compassion, total awareness, absolute fulfillment, you won’t achieve much of that out of what you’re doing. In other words, if you choose evolution—the evolution of your soul—you won’t produce that by the worldly activities of your body. Doing is a function of the body. Being is a function of the soul. The body is always doing something. Every minute of every day it’s up to something. It never stops, it never rests, it’s constantly doing something. It’s either doing what it’s doing at the behest of the soul—or in spite of the soul. The quality of your life hangs in the balance. The soul is forever being. It is being what it is being, regardless of what the body is doing, not because of what it’s doing. If you think your life is about doingness, you do not understand what you are about. Your soul doesn’t care what you do for a living—and when your life is over, neither will you. Your soul cares only about what you’re being while you’re doing whatever you’re doing. It is a state of beingness the soul is after, not a state of doingness." "The soul is concerned only with where you are going to be. Are you going to be in a place called fear, or in a place called love? Where are you—and where are you coming from—as you encounter life? Now, in the example of the two equally qualified workers, one is successful and the other is not, not because of anything either is doing, but because of what both are being. One person is being open, friendly, caring, helpful, considerate, cheerful, confident, even joyful in her work, while the other is being closed, distant, uncaring, inconsiderate, grumpy, even resentful of what she is doing. Now suppose you were to select even loftier states of beingness? Suppose you were to select goodness, mercy, compassion, understanding, forgiveness, love? What if you were to select Godliness? What then would be your experience? I tell you this: Beingness attracts beingness, and produces experience. You are not on this planet to produce anything with your body. You are on this planet to produce something with your soul. Your body is simply and merely the tool of your soul. Your mind is the power that makes the body go. So what you have here is a power tool, used in the creation of the soul’s desire."-God |
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