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In the same way a bird sings, I think some people can't help but find life very odd, interesting, weird situation. Isn't it odd that anything exists? What is this? Who am I? Why am I aware of being aware, of knowing that I know? Who is it that is aware that I am thinking?

All these questions have been on my mind since I can remember. I'm gonna start this thread with my own metaphysics, then you can add yours if you wish. I can see this world as a dream, an imagination of our own awareness. And this awareness is everything, you, I, the stars, the mountains and rivers flowing, your heart beating. It's doing the whole show. For example, if this whole thing we're aware off started off with the big bang, the big bang is us, we're doing this whole thing. We are still the original explosion that flung out the galaxies in motion. Not a result. But all one process.

Another startling realization is that with this specialized form of awareness called our consciousness, being able to learn and build a personality, was before mistaken for the real me. Because language and symbols don't exist in the "physical" world. What I know as my role with a name and history is nothing more than a concept. When I define myself, "I", that is just a way of talking about things and measuring the world in our understanding. The world isn't made up of separate things and separate events. Only in our understanding and breaking it down into language it is.

Whatever I call self cannot exist without the other for contrast. It's been called Yang Ying, black implies white and death implies life. Everything is vibrating and those waves are polarities.

And this perspective is just one of an infinite ways of perceiving the world.
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Confusios say
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Calling all arm chair philosophers, or are there only arm chair tards on here
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Some Mckenna in the house
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Lots to think on...

I'll try and comment on this sentence to start:

"The world isn't made up of separate things and separate events."

I don't know about that. I was thinking with all the things people believe in this world. Our perceptions can only be of this world...or your world...or my world. Wouldn't that be separate? Now, take this example for consideration: I'll use astronomy and astrology. We see the sky and make our horoscopes from this planet. What if we could go to another planet and see the stars from there. Would not the rules of astrology change and be a separate view.

Oh well, I need to think about it some more. I'll save this thread and read it over from time to time. It does cause one to think, tho...so, thank you OP
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Oh, I forgot, cool2 we are all one....

all we need do is blow up the earth to know that. How about blowing up the universe. Wouldn't He get really mad...or does the silence of His Word quash any word we can make....
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Lots to think on...

What if we could go to another planet and see the stars from there. Would not the rules of astrology change and be a separate view.

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The perception would surely change.
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you should read Carl Jung - dreams , recollections and memories . pertains to your line of thought .
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I am another yourself, just a unique and different perspective of the same thing. I think this explains it quite nicely. hf

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you should read Carl Jung - dreams , recollections and memories . pertains to your line of thought .
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Thanks dude, Jung is always a good read.

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Few philosophical questions;

Who am I?

Is my definition with the "I" a concept?

Is life serious?
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For all infinite lies that separate us there all but one finite truth that unites us.
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Here read this free book. It should answer all your questions and if nothing else, inspire you to new and bigger ones. hf

[link to www.humanitysteam.ru]
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And it is, to be missing.
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I cant philosophy with you at the moment but check out alan watts. If you havnt already
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I cant philosophy with you at the moment but check out alan watts. If you havnt already
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All good homie

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And so, the search begins.
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Here read this free book. It should answer all your questions and if nothing else, inspire you to new and bigger ones. hf

[link to www.humanitysteam.ru]
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


Always up for a new read, thanks
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And so, the search begins.
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what are we searching for?

Searching implies there is something missing.
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hf
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There was a thread started here earlier about free will. I tried to get the conversation going but it just went into godly figures, heavens and hells and never really about the reality of this free will.

"Free will" is open for discussion too.
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I see free-will as how you choose to BE. It is an attitude and how you choose to create and experience your life.

'Be the love that you are.' hf
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I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing.

An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us".

I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion..
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I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion..
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Or.. just watch this video

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I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing.

An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us".

I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion..
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I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. hf
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I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing.

An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us".

I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion..
 Quoting: Cloud Hidden

I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


"Be the love that you are" I like that
sounds easy and effortless, thanks
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I see free will as an illusion itself, but this isn't supposed to be depressing.

An illusion because the self which I identify with is nothing more than a concept. We were taught to identify ourselves with things which are "voluntary" and whatever is "involuntary" is certainly not "us".

I will expand further on why the self which I believe to really exist is really an illusion..
 Quoting: Cloud Hidden

I agree with you. Most people tend to see themselves as their ego which is a false persona instead of who they really are- a unique and different perspective of the same thing- for there is only 'one' with many perceptions. There in lies the choice. It is yours to see the 'one' and your relation to it. hf
 Quoting: Seeker of Truth


"Be the love that you are" I like that
sounds easy and effortless, thanks
 Quoting: Cloud Hidden

Then you will enjoy this! Beingness is what life is about. Please note it is
Excerpted from page 90/91 of the same book I linked earlier: ·Conversations with God
· an uncommon dialogue ·
book 1
Neale Donald Walsch
1992 -1994
[link to www.humanitysteam.ru]
"There’s a difference between being and doing, and
most people have placed their emphasis on the latter.
Shouldn’t they?
There’s no “should” or “should not” involved. There’s only what you choose, and how you can
have it.
If you choose peace and joy and love, you won’t get much of it through what you’re doing. If
you choose happiness and contentment, you’ll find little of that on the path of doingness. If
you choose reunion with God, supreme knowing, deep understanding, endless compassion,
total awareness, absolute fulfillment, you won’t achieve much of that out of what you’re doing.
In other words, if you choose evolution—the evolution of your soul—you won’t produce that
by the worldly activities of your body.
Doing is a function of the body. Being is a function of the soul. The body is always doing
something. Every minute of every day it’s up to something. It never stops, it never rests, it’s
constantly doing something.
It’s either doing what it’s doing at the behest of the soul—or in spite of the soul. The quality of
your life hangs in the balance.
The soul is forever being. It is being what it is being, regardless of what the body is doing, not
because of what it’s doing.
If you think your life is about doingness, you do not understand what you are about.
Your soul doesn’t care what you do for a living—and when your life is over, neither will you.
Your soul cares only about what you’re being while you’re doing whatever you’re doing.
It is a state of beingness the soul is after, not a state of doingness."
"The soul is concerned only with where you are going to be.
Are you going to be in a place called fear, or in a place called love? Where are you—and
where are you coming from—as you encounter life?
Now, in the example of the two equally qualified workers, one is successful and the other is
not, not because of anything either is doing, but because of what both are being.
One person is being open, friendly, caring, helpful, considerate, cheerful, confident, even
joyful in her work, while the other is being closed, distant, uncaring, inconsiderate, grumpy,
even resentful of what she is doing.
Now suppose you were to select even loftier states of beingness? Suppose you were to
select goodness, mercy, compassion, understanding, forgiveness, love? What if you were to
select Godliness? What then would be your experience?
I tell you this:
Beingness attracts beingness, and produces experience.
You are not on this planet to produce anything with your body. You are on this planet to
produce something with your soul. Your body is simply and merely the tool of your soul. Your
mind is the power that makes the body go. So what you have here is a power tool, used in
the creation of the soul’s desire."-God hi hf
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Few philosophical questions;

Who am I?

Is my definition with the "I" a concept?

Is life serious?
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What will it be like when death occurs? What was it like before I was born?
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Nothing that is real ever dies, only thoughts, names, and symbols.
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Good stuff here, Cloud. THanks! I love Terrence McKenna and Alan Watts.
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot





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