If Zimmerman was going to murder Martin beside several houses, why would he allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds?

Im not saying i believe GZ attacked first or vice versa but there is evidence that GZ was not surprised if he was attacked first because he told the dispatcher "no, they always get away" and something along the lines of he wasnt going to let this one get away, i will go listen to the recording again and find out exactly. maybe you should go listen also. Although i do believe that with all the facts that dont match up with GZ's story, that he will still be found not guilty because that is what the agenda is. All hell will break lose the day the verdict comes in and it reads not guilty.

The first part is more information than I need. The second part might make a difference if it had bearing on why an encounter happened.

George was only guilty of wanting the cops know the exact location so, this suspicious looking guy could be checked out by them. I would be frustrated to if my wife and neighbors had to live in fear of thugs breaking it and taking your stuff and possibly killing someone. That is what neighborhood watch is all about. paying attention to your neighborhood and calling when see suspicious activity. You can't do that if you don't get involved. I'm sure he wasn't expecting to get attacked walking down the sidewalk to get an address for the police. If he expected that I'm sure he would have drawn his gun before leaving his truck.

Something I found really interesting was that in Zimmerman's call to the cops he says "These assholes they always get away".

I'm with you on this. Flagrant opinion is nice for its sincerity, but doesn't help the facts.

The question seems so basic. Someone screams for 40 seconds. People are going to come out and look. Witnesses will appear. Why allow anyone to scream for so long?

Was that an exact quote or did he specify race?

Was that an exact quote or did he specify race?

That's the exact quote. It's the first audio recording on this page. [link to www.randirhodes.com] at 1:38.

Because some people/standbyers are fearful -afraid to become involved. Fight or flight....some freeze. Some people have no instinct to help. Some people think of themselves first. Some are afraid of confrontation. Many possible reasons,some were afraid to step in & help.

Was that an exact quote or did he specify race?

Where are the stolen jewelry items? Maybe Zimmerman's neighbors can get their stuff back.

Did you know... that handwriting is not taught or used anymore at least in certain schools and grades? Some kids now cannot read cursive!

Relevance seems to be an important issue with evidence in this case. At least the judge seems to think so.

I have two ideas.

I have studied the marks on the back of Zimmerman's head from the very beginning. Unfortunately I know exactly what someone's head slamming into the concrete looks like, far more than I want to know, but I know.

And when I first saw the marks I knew that that was not from slamming into concrete. Then I noticed something when I watched a video. I noticed a metal cover in the grass near where Travon's body was found. It was pointed out in one of the videos. I think THAT is what happened. I think Z thought he was on the sidewalk and was squirming to get off the concrete -- but it was not the concrete - it was that metal cover. It would have made a loud sound and felt like concrete, but it was not. He has little cuts on his head...and I think those are fingernail scratches and metal scratches from that lid.

Now, I think Z is innocent because I think Martin was probably stoned and looking for trouble, etc.

But much more troublesome: In Germany before Hitler, the government was always trying to play the races against each other -- it was much easier to take over a country and take rights away when people were fighting amongst themselves.

Certainly we have the technology to determine who was screaming -- but for whatever reason the government or PTB want us to squabble amongst ourselves. That is why the prosecutor refused and the police chief quit.

Some people are smart enough to figure this out - some are not. We certainly have a huge problem in this country -- but this is only the symbol of it.

What to do. What to do.

Zimmerman is saying he himself did the screaming.

The attempt to label every partially-white man as racist when it fits an agenda is going to backfire here. White people are sick of it.

Zimm was a little bit of a wanna be cop type - truth be told.

even though he said Martin had his mouth and nose covered, he said he was yelling. What I don't understand is with someone sitting on you with their knees against your rib cage, how can you reach in our belt to get your gun, you can get passed his legs. and who would say "you got me" when shot in the chest. That sounds like what a kid says playing with toy guns.

I would like defense attorneys to ask any of Martin's witnesses or even prosecutors to explain why Zimmerman would allow Martin to scream for help for 40 seconds just a few feet from several homes? That obviously would bring forth witnesses which you would not want if you were the smart but depraved person the prosecution has depicted Zimmerman to be.

It is not an adult move. It is not reasonable. This is not a movie where you talk to someone for a minute before you kill them. In real life if Zimmerman is the aggressor armed with a gun and ill intent, Martin doesn't make 10 seconds much less 40 seconds of screaming.

Speaking of adults, when was the last time you saw an unfit late twenties stranger chase down a fit young athletic teenager?

Post whatever you like. I am looking for answers to questions that have been "bugging" me

Ya know, this is very true, at least from what I'm seeing and hearing in my daily life in conversations with people.

Not just "white people". People of every race, creed and walk of life that qualify as "civilized".

Civilized folks are getting fed up with hearing it, seeing it, dealing with it and having it thrust into their faces.

What it seems that so many are forgetting is that history tends to repeat itself. Historically speaking, when peaceful people keep being pushed, it persists until it seems to the uncivilized that it's now a new norm and there are no limits. Then, finally, critical mass hits and there is a lot of violence and regret.

Hitler referred to it as "do not wake that sleeping giant".

Folks need to stop poking the hibernating bear before something bad happens.