Honesty doesnt seem to be working for me

Stay true to yourself, no matter the circumstance.
Stop expecting things from situations/people, this is your problem. You cant control your destiny, but you can control how well you sail through it ;)

yes, do whatever it takes to get what you want

Of course not. Do you assume you can reduce stress by lying? It only increases the psychic pressure.

Sounds like you need a reallignment of priorities.

And remember, being honest doesn't mean your obligated to bare your soul to every Tom, Dick and Harry.

Modern society is based up. A blind end though

I have the same problem we are the meek.

You could try but it probably will not work for you, you are either honest or a liar.

and yes, honesty does not get you anything

If you're being 'honest' for reward it's pointless to be honest to began with. I believe the reason the world is filled with so many immoral and unethical people is because they realized they can't get anything out of it and settled on being just being bad.

A few years ago, I was in a traffic accident with a passenger on board. (A man was talking on his cell, drove into an alley I was turning into, and smashed into the side of my truck; then he sued me). This went to a jury trial *shrugs. My passenger asked me before court if there were anyway he should phrase things to help? I told him be completely honest to whatever either attorney asked. Because I know I am in the right and whatever the outcome of the trial, I am still in the right, and for him not to be concerned with anything that would weigh on his conscious in any way.

With tits like that you don't have to try at anything.

No honest person has the ability to lie at all. If you are able to turn the tables so quickly then you haven't been completely honest.

Being a good person and doing the right thing has nothing to do with honesty. You can still be a bad ass mofo that people love to hate by being honest too.

I just expect to be treated as well as I treat others. But they do not. :(

Im so glad ypu made this op ive had the same feelings lately. I stay on the straight and narrow but nobody seems to respect that and it feels like everyone is out to steal from me or take advantage of me. Earlier this week i actually entertained the idea of just giving up and ripping others off to get myself out of this hole...

I can at least give you some green karma and a pin request

That's one of the advantages of being honest, people can't take advantage of you or steal from you. They will hate you though, most people hate honest people so expect that. WTF, honest people are just now figuring that out?

Now that i thimk about it honesty even hurt my career. I admitted to smoking pot when i was 16, even though i didnt have to and it cost me a very important compartmental clearance. Actually what it was was that i told one agency an arbitrary date range for one clearance then was off like a month when i told them about it. So apparently im untrustworthy...

Yea honesty wasnt my problem, trusting others to live to my standards was.

In a world full of liars, it's hard to be honest. You probably won't be rewarded for your honestly in this world, but God sees all and He will reward you in the next.

You reap what you sow. Continue to sow truth.

For me usually, I generally don't end up in sticky situations. I don't cause arguments or problems. I'm easy to get on with and I stick to the rules. This generally means no problems for me.

But I've recently experience a person taking against me for no apparent reason which has been very difficult to come to terms with.

And another incident of people trying to take advantage of me due to my honesty and peace keeping ways.

Hope some good karma comes you way Chris :) sending you some of the GLP kind.

Join the train wreck of corruption and when you crash tell us all how it sucked.

no, not unless there are insane amounts of corners that a moral person would cut.

it sounds more like things are NOT going your way. Don't be discouraged. Not knowing your circumstances, I don't know what sorts of worries are driving you.

It is never a mistake to remain true to your inner principles.

Our priest, an Orthodox Coptic priest, gave a talk to a Jewish group.

" I love Moses!" he said. "Why do I love Moses? He was a smart man. But he did not rely on his intellect alone. When faced with a problem, even though he was smart, he would ask God for guidance."

So let God guide you here, and may better times come soon for you!

I faced a question a few months back about a problem. In the end, any solution I dreamed up would have been worse than the problem. Sometimes you gotta do nothing.

Teacup,
I understand your disappointment and frustration. It seems that the old saying "No good deed goes unpunished" is more true now than past years. I have stayed true to the course and it is less frequent now that it pays off. It has become the norm these days with bankers and officials living by a different set of rules and standards than us. The propaganda on TV even promotes unethical standards and ruthless business practices to cheat as many people as possible to obtain the reward of the almighty dollar (Green toilet paper).
Few stop and contemplate the cost to their own soul for each of these actions and then when even family screws you over and steals from you it cuts deep. It is difficult to continue going down the path most days, but there a few good moments that are rewarding and this makes it worth going on for just one more day.
I try to keep a list of people to avoid and who not to conduct personal or business relations with as I go down this path. The list of people that are not on the list of users,abusers,crooks,thieves and lairs is quite long and I learn a lesson from each encounter.
I have but a cherished few that I trust with my life and money and I enjoy every minute of time that I get to spend with them and look forward to the next time. I try not to be a hermit but it is difficult. I accept the fact that most can't be trusted and use the lessons learned to deal with them if necessary.
Do not let others actions dictate who you are. You are a product of your creator and have an internal compass pointing the true path. Stay the course and guard your heart least you become one of them. Enjoy quiet time with yourself an your creator with out the radio or TV an listen to the internal voices. You are thoughts and feelings are more important than all those who try to tell you what you need to or should do. They only look out for their interest. Trust your self. I believe in you. I wish you well.

What....

You are not a liar, or dishonest.
Do not worry about things, only worry about doing righteousness, the rest will be ok. Dont worry about how you will live, or if you will be secure. Think of God.
and don't envy evil that prospers in this world that is only going to get cut down soon.

This world is not for you. But in your humility you will inherit the next. Don't give in to evil. Endure.
We love you.

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People don't like it because they are insecure, competitive and acting most of the time.

That was the problem, you expected people to live up to your standards. You honestly believed you could change people by your own morals? And they probably expected you to bend to their will as well. That will never work, but there are ways to gain the upper hand in the situation and they either give in or they leave. Majority of the time they choose to leave because of pride and they hate you for it because deep down they know you know something they like to keep hidden. Honesty gives us peeks and glimpses into things that aren't on the surface and our job is to expose them.

any thing - hmmm
What do you want?
I want honesty, truth and fairness.

Things are just that, things.
How much can you eat / wear /stash?

Values - do you value yours or do you value theirs?

Of course no good turn goes unpunished, and of course liars will hate you for truth but the good turn you did is yours, the ripoff is theirs. It isn't your fault that they are dicks.
If you want a better future, what do you mean by better?
Do you mean financialy secure (no such thing) or do you mean better, as in feeling alright about your own actions?

You need to decide if you want to sell out or not. Whatever you decide, you will live with.

Stress can be let go of - just do it.
Friend of mine who lived skint for years came into money, now that stressed her out big time because all of a sudden she was on the other side of the fence - she had made ends meet before, now she just worries about the dosh.

Look into you for your answer, don't ask others how to live your life.

Good luck and much love.

Being honest and kind is a way of life. Not something you do expecting a reward or for it to be necessarily returned.
But what goes around does come around..eventually anyway.

So be kind and generous because that's the way you are and it's the right way to live. Those who will try to take advantage of you will reap what they sow.

Peace

I know, I know.

But keeping up lies is going to cost you even more effort
and energy. Believe me.

Above poster is right: To your own self be true.

Kind of feels very good to know, any old case, that you
are out there showing human integrity, stranger.
Trying my best to do the same...but we humans are so
damned good at lying to ourselves, from time to time.

Ask yourself this question; how do you feel after telling the truth, and how do you feel after lying? If you feel better after the truth, wouldn't that be your conscienceness confirming what you already know?

The next question is; is material gain worth an eternity of torment? Ill gotten gain only hurts those that are of pure heart. Which are you?

Awesome response Lisa!!!

If you start doing things that your heart and soul are telling you are not the best ways, it's going to take a toll on you spiritually, mentally, physically, etc. Even if you end up with what looks like less than others, and other people seem to take advantage, its better than wrecking yourself.