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Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics

 
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Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
The following videos prove in my opinion that Christians are agnostics.

How is that possible?

One definition of agnostic is "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."

The argument that is made in the following videos is that because Christians cannot define what "God" is, they cannot know whether or not there is a "God" and therefore they're agnostics.


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[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
The same line of reasoning can put many woo woos to the test:

If we're all "one consciousness", can you define what "consciousness" is?

Here's the thing: If they give a good clear definition and if we can find one person on earth who doesn't fit their definition, then their belief is disproven. Best of luck on that.
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11/14/2013 03:12 AM
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
to bed, they go

point out the candles to blow
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11/14/2013 03:17 AM
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
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How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49731267


How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49731267


How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
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Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49731267


How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


You can't answer a question with a question. Please answer my question and we can continue.
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
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How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


You can't answer a question with a question. Please answer my question and we can continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


I just did. You inserted yourself into the conversation.

Islam and Christianity are polar opposites. That is it.
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11/14/2013 04:07 AM
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Quran is written with human thinking and human morality but based on Biblical truths. It seems to be more of what humans expect in right/wrong but it is just... more human thinking.


The Bible is written with God's thinking and God's morality. It does seem counter intuitive for humans.
It takes a bit of study and thought for the human mind to grasp what is laid out.
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Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


You can't answer a question with a question. Please answer my question and we can continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


I just did. You inserted yourself into the conversation.

Islam and Christianity are polar opposites. That is it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


I asked you this question and you replied with more questions, you didn't answer my question:

Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
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That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


You can't answer a question with a question. Please answer my question and we can continue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


I just did. You inserted yourself into the conversation.

Islam and Christianity are polar opposites. That is it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


I asked you this question and you replied with more questions, you didn't answer my question:

Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


Islam uses the Old Testament, I assume most is close to the one of the Jewish one and the Christian one, You had common ancestors, from the line of Abraham and Abraham was promise to father nations. Ismael line married into Judah, so they are of the tribes of Judah. Christians are also by adoption of the line of Abraham some could be from the line. The one thing Christian real ones is the belief in what God said he would do, he did, he sent his son, to for fill the law, ended the sacrifice, No longer could sin be hide will sacrifices they had to be forgiven by God throught the belief that his son was sent to this earth and died, but he was sent to save the the world with the belief in his son, We call him Jesus and that is not his real earthly name, Jews say his name was something like Yeshua, the angel said to call him Emmanuel, meaning GoD is with us. Being man they could not believe anything, so the crucitied him. He did not fight it, because it was for told by God, The Word came into this world and they knew him not. His death and Resurrection is our saving in grace, It is by his Grace we are saved because we believe and are baptized with the Holy Ghost. That is the teacher, and the corrector, were are Children of God. No matter where you come from you can be A Child of God, too!
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
The following videos prove in my opinion that Christians are agnostics.

How is that possible?

One definition of agnostic is "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."

The argument that is made in the following videos is that because Christians cannot define what "God" is, they cannot know whether or not there is a "God" and therefore they're agnostics.


[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39383696


And here you have it kids, why the world does not have knowledge at all over God.

I could go on, but.. but i dont want to :/
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49731267


How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


Simple. Satan's pulpit, otherwise known as mass media, keeps repeating it - so you believe it.

Hear something enough, it becomes your belief.
What happened after this mouthpiece kept repeating that an unborn baby is just a clump of cells, not a life, has no inherent right to life and is a burden and nuisance to keep you from your 'dreams and desires'?
People started willingly killing them.

So you, too, believe that Islam is an "Abrahamic religion" because the very same mouthpiece keeps repeating it. Despite the fact that Abraham believed that God's promises would occur. He saw them and was happy. He saw that the fulfillment was Christ. Yet, you would rather believe that Islam is an 'Abraham religion' despite Jesus Christ stating that those of Abraham would believe Him.
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
Thy are just scared of going to hell .They all use the reward vrs punishment idea to control there flocks.
Then if you want them to die for you promise them paradise and virgins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49731267


How cute, you're following the mandate to reassure that they're similar religions.
If only they made you read both of the books, quran and bible, but that's too much to ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


Why are Islam and Christianity both called "Abrahamic religions"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


That's the connection? Abraham? Why, if they are brothers, are they killing eachother?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47774730


That should be the first clue religions are up to no good. If it was legit, there'd be one "religion" that rang true to everyone. The religions were designed to create strife.
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Re: Putting Christianity to bed: Believers are agnostics
The same line of reasoning can put many woo woos to the test:

If we're all "one consciousness", can you define what "consciousness" is?

Here's the thing: If they give a good clear definition and if we can find one person on earth who doesn't fit their definition, then their belief is disproven. Best of luck on that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48691060


What if the definition of one consciousness incorporates all varying degrees of consciousness?

The "One Consciousness" would fit the definition of the ALL inclusive totality of individual consciousness. The individual consciousness is part of the whole.

Or it could be that every being holds within themselves ALL consciousness, however only a selective consciousness manifests within that being.





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