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What were Jesus' priorities for giving thanks in the Lord's prayer?

 
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What were Jesus' priorities for giving thanks in the Lord's prayer?
"YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’
14 “For if YOU forgive men their trespasses, YOUR heavenly Father will also forgive YOU; 15 whereas if YOU do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will YOUR Father forgive YOUR trespasses." Mt6:9
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"YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’
14 “For if YOU forgive men their trespasses, YOUR heavenly Father will also forgive YOU; 15 whereas if YOU do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will YOUR Father forgive YOUR trespasses." Mt6:9
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Ever find it ironic that Catholics say that prayer by route but don't know or use Gods name, which is the first thing Jesus taught in that prayerblink
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"YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’
14 “For if YOU forgive men their trespasses, YOUR heavenly Father will also forgive YOU; 15 whereas if YOU do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will YOUR Father forgive YOUR trespasses." Mt6:9
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Ever find it ironic that Catholics say that prayer by route but don't know or use Gods name, which is the first thing Jesus taught in that prayerblink
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Not really, why would the popes let God compete with them for worship?
"However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of YOU 2 not to be quickly shaken from YOUR reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.
3 Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2
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"YOU must pray, then, this way:
“‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. 11 Give us today our bread for this day; 12 and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. 13 And do not bring us into temptation, but deliver us from the wicked one.’
14 “For if YOU forgive men their trespasses, YOUR heavenly Father will also forgive YOU; 15 whereas if YOU do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will YOUR Father forgive YOUR trespasses." Mt6:9
 Quoting: DGN


Ever find it ironic that Catholics say that prayer by route but don't know or use Gods name, which is the first thing Jesus taught in that prayerblink
 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Not really, why would the popes let God compete with them for worship?
"However, brothers, respecting the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we request of YOU 2 not to be quickly shaken from YOUR reason nor to be excited either through an inspired expression or through a verbal message or through a letter as though from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here.
3 Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2
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The Poops yes, ( did I mean "Pope"?- But what about the common everyday Catholic, are they responsible to read the Bible on their own or listen to the Pope?
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Re: What were Jesus' priorities for giving thanks in the Lord's prayer?
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5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.

---Duplicity is when you seek good for reward. In this case, what are you after? The reward. Duplicity is when you seek good to avoid judgment. Which are you after? This is called being double-minded. Good is its own reward. Prayer should be for others, not for self.

Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

---They were after the reward and not the good of others. In all cases, God's word is pointing to God's will, which is to give and receive. Taking makes us a thief.

6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

---Never let your good deeds be seen. Why? You receive reward from others and not God. God desires to be the one that gives to us in all cases.

7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

---Faith is our trust in God's authority. Come what may, it is always for our good. By pagans using many words, he is referring to the use of mantras. The reason, again, is to derive the benefit for self. Compare this to theurgy and spiritual alchemy. The same applies.


9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.


---God's will and not our own. Again, not selfish.

11 Give us today our daily bread.

---Bread represents food, but also knowledge. It is God giving again to us and not what we earn.

12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.

---By forgiving debts, we are giving to others as a reflection of God giving to us. God follows His law of Love. Never take.

13 And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.’

---The evil one steals, kills and destroys. God is our defense against the one that is a robber and thief. Satan or man, it is the same. God is the defender.

14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

---We must take the name. The name of Christ is the character it represents. That character is to suffer for others and give. Surplus is created when we give.

If you smoke, you generally get sickness. Taking as a thief creates debt. If you instead go to the gym and workout, you get health. Suffering first always brings reward later.

It's a direction.

Reward ----> Suffering ------> Reward.

The point is to suffer first, then reward follows. Work a job and your family eats. Take too many sick days and you suffer the loss of a job. Fail to show up after being drunk the night before and all your jobs eventually fade. Taking reward leads to suffering the debt. Instead, suffer and reward rains down from heaven above.
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Find the Lord's Prayer is meaningful and esoteric

Our Father (crown chakra/archangel Uriel)
Who Art in Heaven (third eye chakra/archangel Michael)
Hallowed Be Thy Name (throat chakra/archangel Raphael)
Thy Kingdom Come Thy Will Be Done
On Earth as it is In Heaven (heart chakra Jesus Christ)

Give Us this Day Our Daily Bread (stomach/solar plexus chakra/archangel Gabriel)
And Forgive us Our Trespasses as We Forgive those who trespass Against Us (navel chakra/archangel Metatron)
Lead us Not into temptation and Deliver Us from evil (base chakra/archangel Ariel)

For Thine (you/me) is the Kingdom
The Power (god almighty/Heaven) and the Glory (mother nature/Earth)
In Thy Holy Name JESUS Christ AMEN

Message is use this prayer to clean in your House/Body and have entities/energies/forces and thoughts leave you as thy flee from Jesus Christ the Holy SON OF GOD.

That's my preaching done.. Enjoy Life and Love/know yourself





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