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LOU512 User ID: 57448248 United States 05/07/2014 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @markmackinnon: (From AFP wire) - Crisis could end if Ukraine army pulls back after referendum delay: Putin spokesman Quoting: Leonesse Ball is in the Ukraine's court…smart move by Putin…if the Ukraine doesn't settle down…no more violence ..the he can have battle ready troops in the Ukraine within 24 hours the world now knows Putin…backed down but not out….he is giving enough rope to hang themselves…(world opinion) he can show the west is the aggressor (thats what it will look like) if things don't stabilize…he can send in 'peacekeepers' I think he's playing world opinion. just guessing…the a ex-kgb officer this a chest game…. also we don't know what really happened in Iran….maybe that was a warning ? The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. Sun Tzu |
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 05/07/2014 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Luis goes off topic too, so he won't mind. Facts are that America refused to recognise Morsi's ousting a coup! If they had have recognised it as such their law would have prevented them from providing any more military aid when the military junta took power. They did carry on funding the military. Quoting: missanthropic55 If they supported MB, why break their own law to fund the very people who ousted Morsi? The US did not want to see Mubarak go...they stalled as long as they could in pursuading him to leave. Mubarak and co got billions from the US partly as payment for the peace treaty with Israel. Having MB in power in Egypt didn't at all suit Israel. As for the funding, it should have ceased immediately. Wasnt this partly due to the fact that Morsi was pro Ghadaffi ? and supports the new greens in Libya? Maybe the Egyptian dude can help... |
missanthropic55 User ID: 54446558 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Luis goes off topic too, so he won't mind. Facts are that America refused to recognise Morsi's ousting a coup! If they had have recognised it as such their law would have prevented them from providing any more military aid when the military junta took power. They did carry on funding the military. Quoting: missanthropic55 If they supported MB, why break their own law to fund the very people who ousted Morsi? The US did not want to see Mubarak go...they stalled as long as they could in pursuading him to leave. Mubarak and co got billions from the US partly as payment for the peace treaty with Israel. Having MB in power in Egypt didn't at all suit Israel. As for the funding, it should have ceased immediately. Wasnt this partly due to the fact that Morsi was pro Ghadaffi ? and supports the new greens in Libya? Maybe the Egyptian dude can help... Morsi represented the muslim brotherhood, who was democratically elected. He fucked up, and again the US helped get rid.....ive article after article on military aid after the coup...when I get back my tablet ill edit this post and add links Anti-Zionism NOT Antisemitism |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57799850 Croatia 05/07/2014 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 WASHINGTON, May 07. /ITAR-TASS/. Ukrainian presidential candidate Valery Konovalyuk said Western sanctions against Russia were senseless and actually harmful for his country and the whole of Eastern Europe. “The path of sanctions against Russia leads nowhere,” he said at the National Press Club in Washington on Wednesday, May 7. “These sanctions can adversely affect Ukraine and some of the East European countries in the first place.” don't tell?! [link to en.itar-tass.com] |
TheExpendableOne User ID: 22992427 Czechia 05/07/2014 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @markmackinnon: (From AFP wire) - Crisis could end if Ukraine army pulls back after referendum delay: Putin spokesman Quoting: Leonesse Ball is in the Ukraine's court…smart move by Putin…if the Ukraine doesn't settle down…no more violence ..the he can have battle ready troops in the Ukraine within 24 hours the world now knows Putin…backed down but not out….he is giving enough rope to hang themselves…(world opinion) he can show the west is the aggressor (thats what it will look like) if things don't stabilize…he can send in 'peacekeepers' I think he's playing world opinion. just guessing…the a ex-kgb officer this a chest game…. also we don't know what really happened in Iran….maybe that was a warning ? Policy - the art of doing easy things the most difficult way... Last Edited by TheExpendableOne on 05/07/2014 04:00 PM TheExpendableOne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57799850 Croatia 05/07/2014 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Konovalyuk said, “The new government has undoubtedly made a number of strategic mistakes over the past two months”, the main of which is that “it has completely ignored the positions and demands of people living in the South-East of Ukraine” Now WHAT Washington? Time to help again, to CHANGE something or someone? [link to en.itar-tass.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57369144 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57369144 interesting body dynamics and deferential aquiescent tone,yes inter...esting i do wonder if there has been some politburu reshuffling has putin had his nuts singed? Except for him looking a bit tired (mentally exhausted from this fucking bullshit) - I see nothing wrong from previous press conference and his body language or the way he speaks. He's just made some to the point, short and clear comments, that's it. See Body Language comment can only come from one of those yahoos that wants to show off the "Billions" spent on "studying Putin's body language" to try to read him. Guess what - it didn't til today lead them to anything concrete Again, tax payer money well spent Putin clearly is not acting like a man with immense power the poise and self assured stature of a month ago when he was grandstanding over crimeas annexation Can you back that up with evidence? Or you're just blabbing? He's saying the exact same things he did 2 months ago, 3 months ago and last year! Possibly you haven't paid attention. exactly what you HAVE NOT done take heed of your own suggestion and read paay due care and attention .it is self evident i am talking about his "actions " and physical demeanor ,i think you should reconsider your own penchant for blabbing when failing to focus on the context |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24670139 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 are we witnessing the death throes of this thread? some of the melodramatic comments made at the dizzy heights of this thread are but a a distan t cringing memory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57369144 Don't worry, this thread will not end untill situation is compleatly stable. Or everything goes ballistic! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57783684 Slovenia 05/07/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin Orders Feared Alpha Troops To Ukraine, Declares “Red War” Now In Progress A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime. A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces. Alfa Group is a dedicated counter-terrorism unit that belongs to OSNAZ of the FSB, or more specifically the “A” Directorate of the FSB Special Operations Center (TsSN). It is currently believed to consist of 700 persons, 400 assigned to the Moscow Detachment and the remaining 300 located in other cities in Russia. [link to www.eutimes.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57810118 Ukraine 05/07/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 UkraineConflict 2m Quoting: djdandew1 Dam being built in #Ukraine to block a canal which supplies water to #Crimea [link to twitter.com (secure)] Another one bullshit ! Are you not tired yourself ? Ukraine is buiding a water control structure that will allow to evaluate a water withdrawal because actual metering systems are installed directly on water intakes of crimean economic entities. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24670139 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Replying to a question whether the present authorities in Kiev were not complying with the agreement reached in Geneva on April 17, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57799850 Konovalyuk said, “The new government has undoubtedly made a number of strategic mistakes over the past two months”, the main of which is that “it has completely ignored the positions and demands of people living in the South-East of Ukraine” Now WHAT Washington? Time to help again, to CHANGE something or someone? [link to en.itar-tass.com] US need to sack this whole Kiev gang. They are so incompetent! Then again, incompetence is what US government is all about! |
Revbo™ User ID: 16860056 United States 05/07/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont know if this was posted yet havent been home all day. Whats this "Red War" Putin is mentioning? Anyone knows? Quoting: Matjaz Putin Orders Feared Alpha Troops To Ukraine, Declares “Red War” Now In Progress A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime. A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces. Alfa Group is a dedicated counter-terrorism unit that belongs to OSNAZ of the FSB, or more specifically the “A” Directorate of the FSB Special Operations Center (TsSN). It is currently believed to consist of 700 persons, 400 assigned to the Moscow Detachment and the remaining 300 located in other cities in Russia. [link to www.eutimes.net] EU Times regularly publishes Sorcha Faal's BS, and anything that starts with something about disturbing news coming out of the Kremlin is Sorcha Faal BS. Please disregard. John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38201315 United States 05/07/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont know if this was posted yet havent been home all day. Whats this "Red War" Putin is mentioning? Anyone knows? Quoting: Matjaz Putin Orders Feared Alpha Troops To Ukraine, Declares �Red War� Now In Progress A foreboding �urgent action bulletin� released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a �State of Red War� now exists and has ordered an �immediate deployment� of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime. A �State of Red War� declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia�s borders endangers a �significant� number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a �State of Total War�, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces. Alfa Group is a dedicated counter-terrorism unit that belongs to OSNAZ of the FSB, or more specifically the �A� Directorate of the FSB Special Operations Center (TsSN). It is currently believed to consist of 700 persons, 400 assigned to the Moscow Detachment and the remaining 300 located in other cities in Russia. [link to www.eutimes.net] Sorcha Faal aka Sucha Fail. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24670139 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont know if this was posted yet havent been home all day. Whats this "Red War" Putin is mentioning? Anyone knows? Quoting: Matjaz Putin Orders Feared Alpha Troops To Ukraine, Declares “Red War” Now In Progress A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime. A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces. Alfa Group is a dedicated counter-terrorism unit that belongs to OSNAZ of the FSB, or more specifically the “A” Directorate of the FSB Special Operations Center (TsSN). It is currently believed to consist of 700 persons, 400 assigned to the Moscow Detachment and the remaining 300 located in other cities in Russia. [link to www.eutimes.net] Sorcha! It's conspiracy on steroids! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57805280 Germany 05/07/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57815090 Except for him looking a bit tired (mentally exhausted from this fucking bullshit) - I see nothing wrong from previous press conference and his body language or the way he speaks. Putin clearly is not acting like a man with immense power the poise and self assured stature his "actions " and physical demeanor This is clearly an actor!!!! -Do you all not see it???? This person is ACTING Putin!!!!! The body language of a Putin from 2001. How he looks down, moves his hands, his face, all acting!!!!! And even not a good actor I would say... . . |
firinne User ID: 52431909 Ireland 05/07/2014 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont know if this was posted yet havent been home all day. Whats this "Red War" Putin is mentioning? Anyone knows? Quoting: Matjaz Putin Orders Feared Alpha Troops To Ukraine, Declares “Red War” Now In Progress A foreboding “urgent action bulletin” released by the Federal Security Services (FSB) states that President Putin this morning declared that a “State of Red War” now exists and has ordered an “immediate deployment” of the much feared and highly secretive Spetsgruppa A (Alpha Group) forces into Ukraine to counter the estimated 2,000 Takfiri terrorist fighters being deployed from Syria into Kiev by the Obama regime. A “State of Red War” declaration means that a conflict within or outside of Russia’s borders endangers a “significant” number of Russian speaking peoples and could possibly soon escalate into a “State of Total War”, the latter which allows for the use of nuclear weapons and a full-scale deployment of military forces. Alfa Group is a dedicated counter-terrorism unit that belongs to OSNAZ of the FSB, or more specifically the “A” Directorate of the FSB Special Operations Center (TsSN). It is currently believed to consist of 700 persons, 400 assigned to the Moscow Detachment and the remaining 300 located in other cities in Russia. [link to www.eutimes.net] Sorcha Fail |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24670139 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57369144 Putin clearly is not acting like a man with immense power the poise and self assured stature his "actions " and physical demeanor This is clearly an actor!!!! -Do you all not see it???? This person is ACTING Putin!!!!! The body language of a Putin from 2001. How he looks down, moves his hands, his face, all acting!!!!! And even not a good actor I would say... . . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57369144 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Replying to a question whether the present authorities in Kiev were not complying with the agreement reached in Geneva on April 17, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57799850 Konovalyuk said, “The new government has undoubtedly made a number of strategic mistakes over the past two months”, the main of which is that “it has completely ignored the positions and demands of people living in the South-East of Ukraine” Now WHAT Washington? Time to help again, to CHANGE something or someone? [link to en.itar-tass.com] US need to sack this whole Kiev gang. They are so incompetent! Then again, incompetence is what US government is all about! oi shaddupp ya face |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57783684 Slovenia 05/07/2014 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I dont know if this was posted yet havent been home all day. Whats this "Red War" Putin is mentioning? Anyone knows? Quoting: Matjaz EU Times regularly publishes Sorcha Faal's BS, and anything that starts with something about disturbing news coming out of the Kremlin is Sorcha Faal BS. Please disregard. I see. Thanx. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 57725561 Portugal 05/07/2014 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 @markmackinnon: (From AFP wire) - Crisis could end if Ukraine army pulls back after referendum delay: Putin spokesman Quoting: Leonesse Ball is in the Ukraine's court…smart move by Putin…if the Ukraine doesn't settle down…no more violence ..the he can have battle ready troops in the Ukraine within 24 hours the world now knows Putin…backed down but not out….he is giving enough rope to hang themselves…(world opinion) he can show the west is the aggressor (thats what it will look like) if things don't stabilize…he can send in 'peacekeepers' I think he's playing world opinion. just guessing…the a ex-kgb officer this a chest game…. also we don't know what really happened in Iran….maybe that was a warning ? |
djdandew1 User ID: 57594343 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 ‏@20committee 5m Unless this is the biggest #maskirovka ever, #HoneyBadgerPutin officially blinked. Remember what I said about lessons of the 1990s Balkans? @RealCrimea 3m @20committee He he blinked, the west went into coma. Cause he's far from done. “This is a memo that describes how we’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran.” General Wesley Clark |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1455900 United States 05/07/2014 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 OP's title is a paraphrase/interpretation of what the White House said, not a real quote. Whoever wrote it does not speak English as a first language. Need to find another source but it is obvious that the US wants the referendum cancelled completely and not just postponed. US demand for unconditional surrender in advance of talks. Of course Russia can't dictate that to the people in the east as they really do not have that level of control and the White House knows it. The leaked conversation about the referendum actually shows that. The guy in the east is talking to a right wing guy who hates Putin and certainly isn't acting on Russia's behalf. The people who release such things know that no one will actually notice things like that. In any event the White House/UK/NATO will do anything possible to derail this latest Europe/Russia peace initiative. If the CIA really is in charge of Kiev then they will find a way to do it no matter how bad it looks. The question then will be how Europe and Russia respond. Is Europe a vassal of NATO or do they have some remaining sovereignty? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24670139 United Kingdom 05/07/2014 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Replying to a question whether the present authorities in Kiev were not complying with the agreement reached in Geneva on April 17, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57799850 Konovalyuk said, “The new government has undoubtedly made a number of strategic mistakes over the past two months”, the main of which is that “it has completely ignored the positions and demands of people living in the South-East of Ukraine” Now WHAT Washington? Time to help again, to CHANGE something or someone? [link to en.itar-tass.com] US need to sack this whole Kiev gang. They are so incompetent! Then again, incompetence is what US government is all about! oi shaddupp ya face |