Christ will get you to heaven and that is it, no other way but through Christ.

Bump for truth OP.

religion is like Opium

if they don't get their weekly fix,
they go into DT's

And Happy Easter to you as well. Although, I actually don't celebrate pagan holidays. You might want to research what Easter is really about. I like everything else you're saying tho.

Moses was a murderer and rapist of little girls. See Numbers Chapter 31.
Jesus never came out against this.
If Jesus couldn't save himself from Jews then he can't do spit for you. Jesus never condemned the rapist and murder of little girls, Moses.

How did this get pined?

You do realize there is a very large following that completely disagrees? Don't you?

Eastern Orthodox Christians do not believe anyone needs to reach God through another man.

It is such a faith, not even the Pope is allowed on Eastern Orthodox grounds.



You are free to your beliefs. However, if they are used to chastise another religion and their followers, that is considered wrong.


So now we have two main Christian branches. Western vs Eastern Orthodox.

Are you to say all the Eastern Orthodox followers are doomed to not get into Heaven? That is kind of egotistical if you ask me.

Make it easy, good heart or bad heart......THAT is where I feel it matters.

It is impossible to mock God. Heck the Bibles even state as much-- "God cannot be mocked".


You can be mocked, God cannot be mocked.

sorry to inform you religitards

but Jesus himself never once in
all of the bible uttered

I am the son of god

not one time !!! not once !!!

even though others around him
claimed this after his cruci-fiction

how can you claim he is the son of god
when he himself never claimed it ???

OOPS! Not quite right.....the ONLY way to Heaven is KNOWING Christ was the temple body housing the spiritual soul of God Almighty....all flesh bodies have there spiritual soul (created in the 1st earth age---Genesis 1:1)residing in their temple body. This second earth age, God created (Genesis 1:2) is for all 12B souls created in the 1st earth age, must pass through water (the womb of a woman) and live INNOCENT of who they followed in the 1st earth age satan or God...in a lustful, weak flesh body...we are given the LAWS OF HEAVEN---the 10 commandments to live by...and ALSO God a/k/a the WORD (Christ) became man and walked the earth - and showed us he was real, alive, flesh body crucified and it died, Christ rose his flesh body from death and hell...AFTER he went into hell and took the keys to the gates of hell from satan, who held captive all souls who passed through the flesh and would not allow them to leave hell....but after Christ took the keys, he opened the gates and offered to all there HIS salvation if they believed he was God...and many did and went on to Heaven with Christ after he rose in his flesh.....Christ walked the earth 40 days after he rose in his flesh body...showing himself to many....to prove he was alive....

Point being if you KNOW in your heart he is alive..now...and believe he is GOD the WORD that will live on forever, your spiritual body will make the first "cut" for you are chosen out of this world and from DEATH and will go directly into eternal heaven when your flesh body dies.....IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE AND KNOW CHRIST IS GOD....AND BELIEVE HE IS ALIVE....WHEN YOUR FLESH BODY DIES, YOUR SPIRITUAL BODY WILL HAVE A "MORTAL" SOUL....WHICH MEANS YOU ARE LIABLE TO BE THROWN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE BEHIND SATAN....IF WHEN YOU DIE YOUR SPIRITUAL BODY HAS AN "IMMORTAL SOUL"...YOU WILL LIVE FOREVER.

Contrary to what you posted.....those flesh bodies that die with a MORTAL Soul in their spiritual body are destined to be thrown in the lake of fire after 1000 years......at the end of the 1000 years, THEY GET A SECOND CHANCE TO GET IT RIGHT.....SATAN IS LOOSED AGAIN TO TEST THEM.....IF THE SECOND TIME, THOSE MORTAL SOULS AGAIN FOLLOW SATAN.....THEY FOLLOW SATAN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND ARE BLOTTED OUT FOREVER...THEY SIMPLE DO NOT LIVE ON.

WHY? Because in Heaven only those that TRULY BELIEVE IN GOD ALMIGHTY, JESUS CHRIST (A/K/A THE WORD) will be the only souls that live on forever with the WORD.....there will be nobody in heaven that OFFENDS....we all have like minds, we all truly LOVE CHRIST, THE WORD.

hey, I have a turd dropped by Jesus
it's a lil old but in good condition

how much would you pay me for it ???

/sarcasm

You need to read 1st and 2nd Corinthians.....where Pauls writes you have to "put on immortality" this is what he means. Read it for yourself, see what your spiritual body tells makes you understand! Your spiritual body knows the truth of Christ, the WORD, God Almighty, for HE created your spiritual body, who lived WITH and saw HIM in the 1st earth age!

There is no free will.

Just wheat and tares.

and what about all the people in the world NOW besides in the part that never heard that name… hell fire to come for them I assume. Grow up. All those who are GOD seeking are "saved".

That's a lie. And he was actually defending one of his people when he killed the Egyptian, so it wasn't murder.

Christ can suck the fattest part of my dick.

There are many paths that lead to true "goodness" or God.

Do you really think "God" would only consider Christians
as "good" people. What about someone who is "good" that has never heard of Christianity? Is he damned? No....

It's what truly lies in a person's heart that matters. People should be judged by their works, not by what religious book they read.

Just because you desire something to be true does not mean it is true. Faith is a hope there is a heaven but you have no proof. The Muslim people hope that their Allah is truth but that does not mean it is true. They have faith in their heaven, you have faith in you heaven. Faith only benefits you. If I ask you to prove the existence of your god or Jesus you would come up empty. So faith is just something you need to feel secure. You simply do not care about truth.

So many have a flawed understanding of what hell is.

As a result many have chosen to speak blasphemous words against God.

I'm going to let someone who as actually seen hell show you that God doesn't send anyone to hell!

People are choosing to go there of their own free will!

Whether you believe this account or not, you cannot say later that you weren't informed:


People who have intended and loved what is evil in the world intend and love what is evil in the other life, and then they no longer allow themselves to be led away from it.

This is why people who are absorbed in evil are connected to hell and actually are there in spirit; and after death they crave above all to be where their evil is. So after death, it is we, not the Lord, who cast ourselves into hell.

How this comes about will also be stated. When man enters the other life he is received first by angels, who perform for him all good offices, and talk with him about the Lord, heaven, and the angelic life, and instruct him in truths and goods.

But if the man, now a spirit, be one who knew about these things in the world, but in heart denied or despised them, after some conversation he desires and seeks to get away from these angels.

As soon as the angels perceive this they leave him. After speaking with others he at length associates with those who are in evil like his own.

When this takes place, he turns himself away from the Lord and turns his face towards the hell to which he had been joined in the world, in which those abide who are in a like love of evil.

From these things it is clear that the Lord draws every spirit to Himself by means of angels and by means of influx from heaven; but those spirits who are in evil completely resist, and; as it were, tear themselves away from the Lord, and are drawn by their own evil, thus by hell, as if by a rope.

And as they are so drawn, and by reason of their love of evil are willing to follow, it is established that, from their freedom, they cast themselves into hell.

Men in the world, because of their idea of hell, are unable to believe that this is so. In fact, in the other life before the eyes of those who are outside hell, it does not appear otherwise; but not so to those who cast themselves into hell, for such enter of their own accord.

Those who enter from a burning love of evil appear to be cast headlong, with the head downwards and the feet upwards. It is because of this appearance that they seem to be cast into hell by Divine power.

From these things now it can be seen that the Lord casts no one into hell, but each one casts himself into hell, both while he is living in the world and also after death when he comes among spirits.

It has been shown above that an evil spirit casts himself into hell of his own accord. It will now be told in a few words how this comes about, when yet there are in hell such torments. From every hell there exhales a sphere of the lusts of those who are in it.

Whenever this sphere is perceived by one who is in a like lust he is affected at heart and filled with delight, for lust and its delight make one, since whatever one lusts after is delightful to him. Because of this a spirit turns himself hell- wards, and from delight of heart lusts to go thither, since he does not yet know that such torments exist there, although he who knows it still lusts to go there.

For no one in the spiritual world can resist his lust, because his lust belongs to his love, and his love belongs to his will, and his will belongs to his nature, and everyone there acts from his nature. When, therefore, a spirit of his own accord and from his freedom drifts towards his hell and enters it, he is received at first in a friendly manner, which makes him believe that he has come among friends. But this continues for a few hours only.

In the meanwhile, he is explored in respect of his astuteness and consequent ability; and when this has been done they begin to infest him, and this by various methods, and with gradually greater severity and vehemence.

This is accomplished by introducing him more interiorly and deeply into hell; for the more interior and deeper the hell the more malignant are the spirits. After these infestations, they begin to treat him cruelly by punishments, and this goes on until he is reduced to the condition of a slave.

But rebellious movements are continually springing up there, since everyone wishes to be greatest, and burns with hatred against the others; and in consequence new uprisings occur, and thus one scene is changed into another, and those who are made slaves are delivered that they may assist some new devil to subjugate others; and again those who refuse to submit and render implicit obedience are tormented in various ways; and so on continually. SUCH TORMENTS ARE THE TORMENTS OF HELL,WHICH ARE CALLED HELL FIRE.

If someone really has not heard of the word of Jesus, like someone from the Igbo tribe, then perhaps God, in his perfect fairness, would have other means of determining how they get into heaven.

However, for the other 99.999999% of us, who would HAVE heard of Jesus, there will be no excuses.

Nothing is impossible. With Jesus nothing is possible.

and since the Hebrews murdered hundreds of
thousands of goy in the Torah

and sent the same amount into slavery

how should the Hebrews be judged ???

how should God be judged since he
supposedly ordered it ???

no respect for a god who gives you
a commandment not to kill

then turns around and breaks his own
commandment

My family is saved...There is one bloodline that needs no jesus....they were given god by God himself...the Levi tribe

You're bold.

you could say the same about heaven

heaven is a Juish dictatorship

Yahweh was not elected to power
and if you go, your opinions
don't matter, no voice and no
vote

yep, heaven is a dictatorship

very interesting since that is exactly how
the Pharisees operated in the era the
torah was written

the wheat are those who believe Christ IS GOD...

the tares were sown in the field by Satan, who bedded EVE and Cain was born....those tares today have the spiritual body of a serpent....that's why this is the LAST generation......the tares are more and more serpent like...John the Baptist called the tares a generation of VIPERS...we are seeing them today.....i.e. Obama and Holder and many more i.e. Bush Sr and Jr.....

they stick together, but have no power, they have to steal everything they get; since they have ZERO BLESSINGS FROM GOD/CHRIST

free will......the tares can change....it's up to them in their flesh body to overcome the viper inside them....

that's the challenge......to OVERCOME!

Its 2014 people, I think its time for new ideas about who we are and how the world exists.
With there being more and more evidence of aliens(which science and religion don't have ideas for) and with
How the churches reputation is really bad with pedophelia and all sorts of corruption amongst its leaders, basically I choose neither.

I currently am fascinated by channeled material, its way less distorted and more expansive than the old worn out ideas.

Anyway, have fun with this ridiculous debate where both sides have no answers but only disappointment with each other. And pls, don't pray for me.

:jesuslovesme:

No, sorry, Jesus is the only way. If he were not, God would have mentioned it in the bible. All unsaved Jews, American Indians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, people who are born mentally retarded and without the ability to accept Jesus, all people born before Jesus was born and on and on will go to hell where they will burn forever. And Christians must repent of every one of their sins and then go and sin no more. Jesus says the road is narrow and only a few find the way. He asks you to be perfect as his father is perfect. Tough luck for all you Christians who have too many material possessions. Jesus says you go to hell with all liars, etc.
I am an atheist so I don't believe in any of the above propaganda but you Christians should be shaking in your boots because if I were a Christian I would never think a simple belief would save me.

“The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven..”
- John Milton, Paradise Lost