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MulvaGippleDelores User ID: 49326948 United States 05/20/2014 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1011606 There is no more evidence to support the claim of secureteam10. And the raw data does support my claim. Yes, but even if it's illogical, one can argue that the raw data could also have been altered. The claim is that they obviously censored it. Where's the censor in the raw data? It's up to the claimant to show it was altered, it's not up to me to prove a negative. Is the database back up? Can you pull the raw data again? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58275646 Uruguay 05/20/2014 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro Well if they were blocking something, it should be blocked first and foremost in the raw data as well. Truth is, data dropouts do happen and bits of images get lost, but that isn't even the case here. It's not even that. It's purely a glitch in between the raw image data and the processed JPG available online. Naturally the damn database for raw images goes down right after I say that, making me look like a damn shill since I'm the only one left standing with the raw data from before the database went down. What makes you a shill is that you deny what we all see, but you don't have any evidence to support your claims. Yes, you are definitely a shill. There is no more evidence to support the claim of secureteam10. And the raw data does support my claim. well, i tried to search in the database, but look what i found at [link to soho.nascom.nasa.gov] [link to i58.tinypic.com] this text is visible for only 1 second then disappears wtf???? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58273662 Croatia 05/20/2014 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I knew a guy, through one of my sons, that used to work for Nasa helped design ships and things...he went crazy and got fired. Quoting: PolarPrecursor He is very intelligent though drinks allot now..and still is not all there sometimes...but he said that there are things that are being kept hush hush and nobody is allowed to talk about them...but when he drinks he talks...and he has said that there is definitely ships out there that are of unknown origin and they are manned...they are watching us..why ? He said nobody knows..just speculation that it is because we are not advanced enough yet to be able to understand it all and our primitive emotions are also a factor. He also said that there were many different types of ships and occupants so his best guess is that they must have some kind of higher command which only allows exploratory operations and it must be taboo to actually communicate with us. Some galactic federation rule of some kind. Whatever they motivations are our government is well aware of it and are constantly monitoring the situation...the true facts will never be put out to the public unless they think there will be an attack and even that would be a too late ..so sorry gesture..he says. He said our place in this galaxy is known and spreading it is just a matter of time before some warlike entities invade our quadrant of space and try to lay claim ...there may even be a battle between species up there he said. But the unknowns still outweigh the knowns at the present time. All he really said after that was that we are vulnerable like babes in a basket. No wonder he got fired. lol |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 05/20/2014 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, but even if it's illogical, one can argue that the raw data could also have been altered. The claim is that they obviously censored it. Where's the censor in the raw data? It's up to the claimant to show it was altered, it's not up to me to prove a negative. Is the database back up? Can you pull the raw data again? Yes, the database is back up now. [link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil] In general, if it says "The NRL LZ are available through (For more recent data use Source = NRL QL)" with no date, that means the database is down and the LZ data are being updated. That's what I've seen in years past, and yesterday when it was down there was no date listed once again. Now it says the LZ data are available through 2014-03-31. LZ data go through additional processing at GSFC and generally aren't available for a few months, but because they comb through the tapes very carefully for those data they tend to have fewer dropped packets (not an issue for the image at hand). QL data are the "quick look" data that are immediately available. You have to set it to retrieve from all sources or at least the QL source to get data from recent dates, which is why that other guy yesterday was having trouble getting it before the database went down. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 05/20/2014 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bastards deleted my second comment, containing a link to the raw data. They really do not want the truth to be seen. Be warned, these guys are liars. One of their previous hoaxes for anyone who thinks that they're above hoaxing images outright: [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58273662 Croatia 05/20/2014 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone here believes these researchers are LYING...and I don't know them so I can't say one way or another....I challenge you to contact them directly, TELL THEM THEY ARE LYING, have a debate with them, and post the results here. Other wise, I have no reason to doubt them as I am nearly 60 years old and I have seen the government lie about virtually every topic since my childhood, over and over and over again. The government has ZERO credibility. I don't know what credibility these guys have. But I think the best way of determining that is to have one of you who think they are LYING, tackle the bull by the horns and directly tell them that. Quoting: mehitable 8620616 I would be interested to see the results. In fact, I may try to contact them directly later and see if they would like to discuss the info on this thread. Let's find this out together then ... [link to sharpp.nrl.navy.mil] Go to this page and tell me you can retrieve a clear picture from LASCO C2 for the moment: 05/12/2014 @ 14:12 I can't retrieve anything for the entire day myself... I don't have enough internet access right now to do that, and frankly....I'm not that interested. I just assume it's a space ship and so fucking what....I don't understand why we are debating at this point in our evolution and technological development of whether we could be seeing space ships either...in space...or on earth. OF COURSE WE COULD. This should be a GIVEN to me. And also the idea that there is intelligent, building, traveling, life throughout the universe!!!!! I guess I don't feel the need to "prove" this as it seems OBVIOUS to me that it must be true. Just like the fact that the earth is more than 6000 years old....something are just...basic. However, I think the proper ones to argue this video, are the ones who made it, along with the skeptics who call them liars. THAT is where the debate should be, IMO. Later on, when I have a better connection, I'll see if I can contact these guys and refer them to this thread. They may be full of shit, I don't know them, but I KNOW KNOW KNOW that the government is full of shit...ALWAYS. That is another "given". I'm sick of hearing everything "explained" as weather balloons, swamp gas, the planet Venus, the Pleiades...etc. SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE GOT TO BE SPACE SHIPS. Because we are NOT alone in the Universe. We can't be, that defies reason. Prove the bolded part. What if we are only the glitch (that never should happened in the first place) in the "system"? What if intelligent life form, for now, is just a rarity rather then a norm in the Universe? Do not get me wrong, I am open for all the options, even the one that other intelligent life form actually exist outside of Earth, that's why I'm here. But I need some concrete proof. I do not want to believe in it just because I like the idea of having the Universe full of intelligence up there, I need a proof. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58273662 Croatia 05/20/2014 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prove the bolded part. You can not make such a claims without backing it up with a proof.What if we are only the glitch ( that should've never happened in the first place) in the "system"? What if intelligent life form is, for now, rather rarity than a norm in the Universe? Do not get me wrong, I am open for all the options (even the one that there is intelligent life form outside of Earth), that's why I'm here. But I do not want to believe in it just because I like the idea of having the Universe full of intelligence up there. I need concrete proof. |
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Mukk1234 User ID: 40837657 United States 05/20/2014 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bastards deleted my second comment, containing a link to the raw data. They really do not want the truth to be seen. Be warned, these guys are liars. One of their previous hoaxes for anyone who thinks that they're above hoaxing images outright: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] Ha the pot calling the kettle black...hahaha |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 05/20/2014 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bastards deleted my second comment, containing a link to the raw data. They really do not want the truth to be seen. Be warned, these guys are liars. One of their previous hoaxes for anyone who thinks that they're above hoaxing images outright: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] Ha the pot calling the kettle black...hahaha I am not a liar. |
Mukk1234 User ID: 40837657 United States 05/20/2014 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bastards deleted my second comment, containing a link to the raw data. They really do not want the truth to be seen. Be warned, these guys are liars. One of their previous hoaxes for anyone who thinks that they're above hoaxing images outright: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] Ha the pot calling the kettle black...hahaha I am not a liar. Mkkkkaayyyyyy....Dr...Asstro.... :OMGGGGGGGGG: |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 05/20/2014 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And now the bastards deleted my second comment, containing a link to the raw data. They really do not want the truth to be seen. Be warned, these guys are liars. One of their previous hoaxes for anyone who thinks that they're above hoaxing images outright: Quoting: Dr. Astro [link to www.ufo-blogger.com] Ha the pot calling the kettle black...hahaha I am not a liar. Mkkkkaayyyyyy....Dr...Asstro.... :OMGGGGGGGGG: Show where I lied then. |
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Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 05/20/2014 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone here believes these researchers are LYING...and I don't know them so I can't say one way or another....I challenge you to contact them directly, TELL THEM THEY ARE LYING, have a debate with them, and post the results here. Quoting: mehitable 8620616 Well, the result is they immediately deleted my comments and refused to address the evidence showing they lied. Yup, they lose, I win. What do you have to say for them now, eh Rev? Any ALL CAPS SCREAMING of self righteous rage to direct their way for lying? "YOU CHALLENGED ME PERSONALLY TO DO THIS." And those you automatically put your "faith" in have let you down, they censored all opposing evidence and refused to debate it. They have covered up the raw data I posted, they have exposed the extent to which they are willing to go to protect their lie. I met your goalpost, where is your concession? Last Edited by Astromut on 05/20/2014 04:08 PM |
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#Geomagnetic_Storm# User ID: 6240309 United States 05/20/2014 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any YouTube video that the person deletes comments is a scum. That means they cannot handle a civilised debate. So according to that YouTube video, it's all BS if the person who posted the video deletes comments. That is very low. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 55240075 United States 05/20/2014 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any YouTube video that the person deletes comments is a scum. That means they cannot handle a civilised debate. So according to that YouTube video, it's all BS if the person who posted the video deletes comments. That is very low. Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm# It's easy to make your followers think you're right if you just delete any criticism. |