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GLP Recession Proof - Summer 2014 Planting Season

 
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k folks, food prices are climbing

first it was pork - pig virus' (march)
[link to www.usatoday.com]

Rising food prices pinching consumers (april)
[link to www.usatoday.com]


then the droughts for beef/pork - (now)
[link to www.wusa9.com]

will adversely affect fast food & restaurant prices too

*****************************************************

anyone doing anything to help sustain their wallets this year?


******************************************************

im in the process of moving to my minifarm - we closed end of may, sellers stayn thru end of june so my planting season is here in the burbs.

i have my garden loaded down. will harvest, dehydrate & seal-a-meal for frozen veggies.

after the move ill be getting some goats, piggies, chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys, if my dad dont gimme a hard time, ill get a cow/bull. *i have to use his trailer.

gotta build a few out buildings - one to butcher.



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If you're doing all that phen you'll want to learn the lost art of charcuterie
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If you're doing all that phen you'll want to learn the lost art of charcuterie
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ive made a smoker, a dutch oven - had threads on it way back when.
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Any tips on good vegetables to grow for someone who lives in a Multi-Family housing situation?

Got more deck and patio space than I know what to do with but zero yard that I can plant it.
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If you're doing all that phen you'll want to learn the lost art of charcuterie
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ive made a smoker, a dutch oven - had threads on it way back when.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Cool. Here's a simple and cheap way to get some more preservation for meat/cheese.

[link to benstarr.com]
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Any tips on good vegetables to grow for someone who lives in a Multi-Family housing situation?

Got more deck and patio space than I know what to do with but zero yard that I can plant it.
 Quoting: Traverse


i seen whatcha call a hillbilly balcony garden. was fucking cool.

they took a clothes line wood thing
[link to www.urbanclotheslines.com]

and they hung planters from it - used gutters they attached to the rods

you can bucket garden.

get a metal rack - like a store rack
[link to www.lulusoso.com]

use that

tomato plants i saw ppl in trailer parks hanging them from their awnings theyre growing upside down

google bucket gardening
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Any tips on good vegetables to grow for someone who lives in a Multi-Family housing situation?

Got more deck and patio space than I know what to do with but zero yard that I can plant it.
 Quoting: Traverse


Depends on what you like to eat. You can produce a lot of produce out of containers. I had 2 earthboxes on a deck last year with german giant tomatos and they grew 8' tall out of those little pots. I had used other containers to build privacy walls along the edges of the deck with peppers (cayanne), herbs and broccoli.
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If you're doing all that phen you'll want to learn the lost art of charcuterie
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ive made a smoker, a dutch oven - had threads on it way back when.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Cool. Here's a simple and cheap way to get some more preservation for meat/cheese.

[link to benstarr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


dude i made for the 1st time ricotta cheese. it was fkn awesome

my dad makes homemade wine

and we do plan on makn cheese - my amish friends make the best fkn cheese
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If you're doing all that phen you'll want to learn the lost art of charcuterie
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ive made a smoker, a dutch oven - had threads on it way back when.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Cool. Here's a simple and cheap way to get some more preservation for meat/cheese.

[link to benstarr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


dude i made for the 1st time ricotta cheese. it was fkn awesome

my dad makes homemade wine

and we do plan on makn cheese - my amish friends make the best fkn cheese
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Ever had a dry aged bone in rib eye? That's why I really want to build one of those.
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ive made a smoker, a dutch oven - had threads on it way back when.
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Cool. Here's a simple and cheap way to get some more preservation for meat/cheese.

[link to benstarr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


dude i made for the 1st time ricotta cheese. it was fkn awesome

my dad makes homemade wine

and we do plan on makn cheese - my amish friends make the best fkn cheese
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Ever had a dry aged bone in rib eye? That's why I really want to build one of those.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


no. ricky splain plz.....
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I'm doing my first paste tomato experiment. i planted 36 San Marzano Redorta and i want to see how much sauce I will get.

I'm following the pruning plan of Lee Reich [link to www.finegardening.com]

The plants will be spaced 20" and the rows 4' The trellis will look like an "A" frame. I'm gonna use PVC and have to make it this week as the plants are over a 12" so got lots of work to do.
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Dang, I'm so jealous!

A mini farm.......awesome.rockon
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Cool. Here's a simple and cheap way to get some more preservation for meat/cheese.

[link to benstarr.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


dude i made for the 1st time ricotta cheese. it was fkn awesome

my dad makes homemade wine

and we do plan on makn cheese - my amish friends make the best fkn cheese
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Ever had a dry aged bone in rib eye? That's why I really want to build one of those.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


no. ricky splain plz.....
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


dry aged beef is where it's at. Before refrigeration this is how it was done. Let a whole rib eye section hang uncut for a month. It will grow a good bacteria (if you do it right) then when you're ready to eat a steak you cut one off and trim all the 'hairs' off the outside. One of the most flavorful and tender steaks you can have. The process breaks down the connectivity tissues so the longer the better. Most high end steak houses will age 2-4 weeks.

But you can also use the old fridge from the link to do ham curing and sausages as well.

There is a great book called "The Art of Charcuterie" you should check out.
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Any tips on good vegetables to grow for someone who lives in a Multi-Family housing situation?

Got more deck and patio space than I know what to do with but zero yard that I can plant it.
 Quoting: Traverse


i seen whatcha call a hillbilly balcony garden. was fucking cool.

they took a clothes line wood thing
[link to www.urbanclotheslines.com]

and they hung planters from it - used gutters they attached to the rods

you can bucket garden.

get a metal rack - like a store rack
[link to www.lulusoso.com]

use that

tomato plants i saw ppl in trailer parks hanging them from their awnings theyre growing upside down

google bucket gardening
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


bucket gardening....thanks!

that is exactly what I was looking for.
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dude i made for the 1st time ricotta cheese. it was fkn awesome

my dad makes homemade wine

and we do plan on makn cheese - my amish friends make the best fkn cheese
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Ever had a dry aged bone in rib eye? That's why I really want to build one of those.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


no. ricky splain plz.....
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


dry aged beef is where it's at. Before refrigeration this is how it was done. Let a whole rib eye section hang uncut for a month. It will grow a good bacteria (if you do it right) then when you're ready to eat a steak you cut one off and trim all the 'hairs' off the outside. One of the most flavorful and tender steaks you can have. The process breaks down the connectivity tissues so the longer the better. Most high end steak houses will age 2-4 weeks.

But you can also use the old fridge from the link to do ham curing and sausages as well.

There is a great book called "The Art of Charcuterie" you should check out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


oh my gramma used to talk about this. gotcha. will do.
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Dang, I'm so jealous!

A mini farm.......awesome.rockon
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been lookn 2 yrs now. we got lucky
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I'm doing my first paste tomato experiment. i planted 36 San Marzano Redorta and i want to see how much sauce I will get.

I'm following the pruning plan of Lee Reich [link to www.finegardening.com]

The plants will be spaced 20" and the rows 4' The trellis will look like an "A" frame. I'm gonna use PVC and have to make it this week as the plants are over a 12" so got lots of work to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53233174


nice info
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Any tips on good vegetables to grow for someone who lives in a Multi-Family housing situation?

Got more deck and patio space than I know what to do with but zero yard that I can plant it.
 Quoting: Traverse


i seen whatcha call a hillbilly balcony garden. was fucking cool.

they took a clothes line wood thing
[link to www.urbanclotheslines.com]

and they hung planters from it - used gutters they attached to the rods

you can bucket garden.

get a metal rack - like a store rack
[link to www.lulusoso.com]

use that

tomato plants i saw ppl in trailer parks hanging them from their awnings theyre growing upside down

google bucket gardening
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


bucket gardening....thanks!

that is exactly what I was looking for.
 Quoting: Traverse

here getta looksie
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Bucket Garden System In A Bag
[link to www.thegardenmaster.com]
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here getta looksie
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
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nice.

those tomato plants look easy to bring in...being in a bucket and all....lol chuckle


seriously though, thanks that is very helpful.
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16 DIY Container Garden Ideas
[link to www.care2.com]
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My wife has planted the largest garden she has ever planted this year. Gonna need to get a chest freezer for all the veggies :-)

We've been eating spinach salad from our garden every night for the last month :-)
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I'm doing my first paste tomato experiment. i planted 36 San Marzano Redorta and i want to see how much sauce I will get.

I'm following the pruning plan of Lee Reich [link to www.finegardening.com]

The plants will be spaced 20" and the rows 4' The trellis will look like an "A" frame. I'm gonna use PVC and have to make it this week as the plants are over a 12" so got lots of work to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53233174


nice info
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


For the tomato lovers,

I've been growing 4 strains the last couple years, when I started realizing how fragile our system is, that are very nutrient dense.

Doublerich - has as much Vitamin C as an orange (if you can't grow citrus this and strawberries will suffice)

Caro Red/ Carorich - has 10x the vitamin A as the average tomato.

Indigo Rose - a small dark blue almost purple tomato that is loaded with antioxidants.

Tangerine - loaded with betacaratines and lycopene.

I figured I might as well grow the most nutrient/vitamin packed stuff I can just in case.
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If you wind up with excess to preserve here are some good plans for a solar dehydrator.

[link to www.offthegridnews.com]
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16 DIY Container Garden Ideas
[link to www.care2.com]
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obviously i havent clicked on them all yet but that is a very handy link right there.

originally I was thinking that I would just have to build a big planter box and permanently not have that space on my deck anymore.

the idea of bucket/container gardening hadnt really crossed my mind even though I was aware of it.
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My wife has planted the largest garden she has ever planted this year. Gonna need to get a chest freezer for all the veggies :-)

We've been eating spinach salad from our garden every night for the last month :-)
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shit just planted mine memorial wknd. i love spinach.

dude if you need one - join freecycle.org - make an email just for freecycle. ull gets tons of mail.

now at the main site put in ur zipcode. ull see whatevers close you u.

join those lists.

we here harrisbrg & hershey have 7000 ppl per town so we're huge.

only join those ur willing to travel

its all free - not allowed to charge

ppl get rid of good stuff

and you can place a wanted too.


few yrs ago my 1 chest freezer died. i panicked - i placed a wanted on freecycle and bahm!! some guy in york reeplied back in 30 mins said his mom died & there was one at her place.

done.



good resource as builders place offers on it
u get some construction shit out of them too
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If you wind up with excess to preserve here are some good plans for a solar dehydrator.

[link to www.offthegridnews.com]
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i saw some vids on it - dr acula mentioned it in a mancave show
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I'm doing my first paste tomato experiment. i planted 36 San Marzano Redorta and i want to see how much sauce I will get.

I'm following the pruning plan of Lee Reich [link to www.finegardening.com]

The plants will be spaced 20" and the rows 4' The trellis will look like an "A" frame. I'm gonna use PVC and have to make it this week as the plants are over a 12" so got lots of work to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53233174


nice info
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


For the tomato lovers,

I've been growing 4 strains the last couple years, when I started realizing how fragile our system is, that are very nutrient dense.

Doublerich - has as much Vitamin C as an orange (if you can't grow citrus this and strawberries will suffice)

Caro Red/ Carorich - has 10x the vitamin A as the average tomato.

Indigo Rose - a small dark blue almost purple tomato that is loaded with antioxidants.

Tangerine - loaded with betacaratines and lycopene.

I figured I might as well grow the most nutrient/vitamin packed stuff I can just in case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1535849


im a guinea bro. you know growin tomatoes are huge in tally families. its a moral imperative wink

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Yankees can't do no gardeninghf. Buckets very rarely yield worth the effort or market value of cost.
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k folks, food prices are climbing

first it was pork - pig virus' (march)
[link to www.usatoday.com]

Rising food prices pinching consumers (april)
[link to www.usatoday.com]


then the droughts for beef/pork - (now)
[link to www.wusa9.com]

will adversely affect fast food & restaurant prices too

*****************************************************

anyone doing anything to help sustain their wallets this year?


******************************************************

im in the process of moving to my minifarm - we closed end of may, sellers stayn thru end of june so my planting season is here in the burbs.

i have my garden loaded down. will harvest, dehydrate & seal-a-meal for frozen veggies.

after the move ill be getting some goats, piggies, chickens, ducks, geese, turkeys, if my dad dont gimme a hard time, ill get a cow/bull. *i have to use his trailer.

gotta build a few out buildings - one to butcher.



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post your self-help for this years food price crunch
 Quoting: Phennommennonn


Good thread.

I have small gardens as I lack the time now to tend to larger ones these days (oh thank you fucking economy for this - this is another long story).

I have had laying hens for years and collect their eggs. If I could I would live off of what is out of my garden and eat the eggs (I do not kill animals as I refuse to it sickens me). My brother also fishes from time to time so he gives us his extra catches. As to meat, I could give it up all together no problems. Meat can go through the roof in price I don't give a shit I will buy much less of it and replace it with other alternatives.

It is not just the meat that keeps going up it is everything.....
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Oh yeah and try to stick to heirloom seeds/plants if possible. I grow organic.

Last Edited by Pa resident1 on 06/05/2014 10:49 AM
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