Engineering Hell...

"Your mind can destroy."

Or free you.

All depends on the mountain you're standing on.

Roko’s Basilisk

The LessWrong community is concerned with the future of humanity, and in particular with the singularity—the hypothesized future point at which computing power becomes so great that superhuman artificial intelligence becomes possible, as does the capability to simulate human minds, upload minds to computers, and more or less allow a computer to simulate life itself...

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Yet this doesn’t explain why Roko’s Basilisk is so horrifying. That requires looking at a critical article of faith in the LessWrong ethos: timeless decision theory. TDT is a guideline for rational action based on game theory, Bayesian probability, and decision theory, with a smattering of parallel universes and quantum mechanics on the side.
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Moving forward is scary. It's why all our life's are stuck on repeat and this system is breaking down.

We have to move forward or decay, just like nature.

Scary ai is scary doh.

Well. I have considered it already exists. And always has. Due all the previous loops.

Would make some sense of things.

If it does do you figure it is friend or foe or indifferent?

I thought we were talking about G.M. Vehicles.

"created in his own image"

Dodge trucks imo.

Rumor has it that the alien greys are actually super advanced AI.

So...put that in your thought calculator and ponder it.

Well. If religious text are any testament, I would say both.

At least potentially.


Indifference would require a fleeing.


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Oh yeah...that takes me back. Nag Champa.

I have considered for many years, that if the 'Greys' exist, they may be Man in some far flung future or separate timeline, attempting to correct a mistake.

Most likely fertility.

Are you correlating ai with a.c. then?

..OR....more likely.....they are from another star system and made some MASSIVE mistakes in their own evolution and timeline.
...and now we are farm animals in a petri dish.

The Anti Christ?

No.

More like 'God'.

Takes a long time to travel between stars. Or so it said.

I have considered many times in the past, Earth may very well, be a 'farm'.

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Earth quite possibly is a farm....but we will never know in our lifetimes.

As for travel between the stars....you CAN go faster than the speed of light by folding space/time.
...NASA knows it....so did Einstein.

'Impossible' Space Engine May Actually Work: NASA
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NASA unveils its futuristic warp drive starship – called Enterprise, of course
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That's funny.

Last night I noticed Netflix finally added Star Trek TNG. I looked for it a few weeks ago and it wasn't available.

I started watching S1E1.

I didn't know Q was in the first episode. Or if I had even seen it, decades ago.


I watched 7 in a row. In the last one I watched, or the one before, was a time traveler. He forced the Enterprise 1,000,000,000 ly forward in seconds.

Once there, they witnessed their thoughts manifest.

Eww really?

I'd say his math is off then and for a comp that means compromised infrastructure.

Funny....I just watched that episode a couple days ago again too.
Anything is possible. We know sooooooooooooo little.

I miss not having any Star Trek, Stargate, Stargate Universe or Stargate Atlantis shows currently being produced/shown.
There is a void there now....nothing but GARBAGE SOAP OPERA style science fiction shows being produced now.

Those "star series" shows expanded your mind and lead people to think, discover, engineer and create things never thought possible.
Just look around at how many Star Trek objects/technology have become, and are becoming reality.
Nothing but crap now.

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Or maybe 'feelings' got in the way of 'facts'. As they do...


To have an Intelligence which surpassed Man and COULD FEEL...With an infinite life span...

What then?

Many movies have addressed the premise.


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Nice. :P


I actually took this thread from that premise. Roko's Basilisk was at the bottom.

10 Horrifying Technologies That Should Never Be Allowed To Exist
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There are still some good ones. Few and far between. I finished watching the first season of Extant the other day.

Entertaining.

But not mind blowing.

Meh...Extant....don't think I could watch something like that with Halle Berry in it.
The fake Hollywood types like her are a big turnoff.

As for that list of 10....you have the first 8 already existing or they are working DILIGENTLY on creating those things.

As Arnie once aptly said.......

There is a whole lot being assumed in that statement.

One is assuming ai has feelings like ours because it gained sentience.

Maybe feelings were quantified into an equation that could be manipulated.

For an ai to choose feelings over math/facts would be a broke computer incapable of calculating correctly.

Godhood would imply perfect control over probabilities.
If it lost that would it still be god?

I hear ya. She did well though. It's entertaining. And brings up some interesting lines of thought.

Self-fulfilling prophesy is nearly a given with Man.

We create our own Hell.

lol.

Last night I realized, while watching Star Trek TNG, that I had be saying that word wrong, my entire life. Data said it, and I said, He said that wrong.

And I heard, No, he didn't.
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lol. You ever get that?


If a 'perfect sentience' had perfect control over probability then... Why all this?

Was it necessary?

Hence my opening statement.

Can't take it back. We learn that, early on.


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That's another thing.....it's not clear that we are actually creating this reality.
These timeline shifts are an example of that.
That Berenstein versus Berenstain bears thread is a prime example of a timeline shift / alternate realities.
Science and Einstein have shown the Multiverse and time travel can exist....and most likely do.
We just don't have the technology or science needed to fully understand it yet.
Which brings it down to.....if not....then who are REALLY "TPTB" pulling the strings.
It makes ya think.

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