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48) Battle Cruiser: Sphinx

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Is there a Space Ship underground, beneath the paw of
The Sphinx in Eygpt ?

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65089786


Yes, a massive battlecruiser, it's under the left paw, about ten feet beneath the sand.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Yes, a massive battlecruiser, it's under the left paw, about ten feet beneath the sand.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Has this battle cruiser been accessed and back engineered by governments?
 Quoting: George B


A colleague of mine was sarcastic, i apologise in his stead.
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Thank you for your correction and honesty!!!peace
 Quoting: George B

You've been had there, haven't you ?
It demonstrated in a way also your relative eagerness to believe all this stuff.

I think that was possibly its purpose, not just sarcasm.

In my own experience, this happens all the time here and at that other thread.
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POLL: Rank the single most important/interesting piece of information shared by the RV Group?

6) There were at least two Advanced Civilizations before ours starting as far back as 150,000 years ago. 27.3% (3)
1) Orbital Rail Guns used in Ancient wars created impact craters and Crater National Park is an example. 18.2% (2)
2) Postdiluvian survivors created the Nazca Lines as totems of the logo(s)/trademarks emblazoned on ancient Air Ships 18.2% (2)
5) Ancient humans had outposts on the Moon and Mars. 18.2% (2)
3) Six massive Orbital Habitats (Cities) circled the earth over 30,000 years ago but were destroyed in war. 9.1% (1)
8) Ancients moved massive stones with crude gravity-manipulators which required batteries and copper rods. 9.1% (1)
4) ETs exist but have had minimal significant contact with humans. 0% (0)
7) Ancient lands were plagued by predatory animals so large and smart they engaged human settlers in prolonged conflicts 0% (0)
9) Shambala still exists today. 0% (0)
10) Lucifer was not a human but a pre-human species. 0% (0)
11) The Earth had a faster rotation before. 0% (0)
12) Mammoths were grazing animals of humans. 0% (0)

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 Quoting: George B

As I see it, there is probably a lot of disinformation mixed in with possibly true and actual facts by this "RV Group", some of which being hard to impossible to verify even when comparing with traditional and ancient sources of knowledge. Of course, as is always the case, this is not just gratuitous but serves a purpose. Possibly this is done because it goes on keeping many purpose in a state of manipulatability, the means being cutting the masses off from those ancient sources of knowledge so they will respond easier and more unquestioningly to present influences.

E.g., it is nonsense to speak of Lucifer as "a pre-human species" as we are talking about a spiritual entity, just like Archangels. If any spiritual entities such as "fallen" angels are incarnated today as human beings, they ARE, to all extents and purposes, human beings, not aliens or anything of the sort. It is their human body which makes them human beings. If any "alien" entities are incarnated as human beings, the same goes for those, even if in some cases in theory they might have loyalties diverging from the usual ones.

I have much doubt also, amongst other things, about some claims of high tech in connection with vanished civilizations, and claims such as those about the presence of ancient humans on other planets such as the Moon or Mars.



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As I see it, there is probably a lot of disinformation mixed in with possibly true and actual facts by this "RV Group", some of which being hard to impossible to verify even when comparing with traditional and ancient sources of knowledge. Of course, as is always the case, this is not just gratuitous but serves a purpose. Possibly this is done because it goes on keeping many purpose in a state of manipulatability,
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"...keeping many PEOPLE in a state..."
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If Hitler died in Switzerland what happened to Eva Von Braun?

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Eva Anna Paula Hitler (née Braun; 6 February 1912 – 30 April 1945) was the longtime companion of Adolf Hitler and, for less than 40 hours, his wife.

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From Alterwelt:

Did Hitler escape to Antartica after the war. I heard the Russians say they never accounted for over 100 submarines and they wondered what happened to them?

Not to Antarctica, he died in Switzerland en route to a U-Boat that would carry him to Peru.
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Didn't he say what Hitler died from ? And what was the date ?
What was done with the body ?
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They said he died from a stroke, they did not specify a specific date except that it was in Switzerland while trying to escape to Peru. Eva changed her name and taught school in West Germany until she died from breast cancer some six years after Hitler's death . . . that is all Alterwelt shared.
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48) Battle Cruiser: Sphinx

03/07/2015 10:40 AM
Thread: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data. (Page 137)
Is there a Space Ship underground, beneath the paw of
The Sphinx in Eygpt ?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65089786


Yes, a massive battlecruiser, it's under the left paw, about ten feet beneath the sand.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


...


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Has this battle cruiser been accessed and back engineered by governments?
 Quoting: George B


A colleague of mine was sarcastic, i apologise in his stead.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

Thread: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data. (Page 138)
Thank you for your correction and honesty!!!peace
 Quoting: George B

You've been had there, haven't you ?
It demonstrated in a way also your relative eagerness to believe all this stuff.

I think that was possibly its purpose, not just sarcasm.

In my own experience, this happens all the time here and at that other thread.
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Possibly.
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POLL: Rank the single most important/interesting piece of information shared by the RV Group?


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 Quoting: George B

As I see it, there is probably a lot of disinformation mixed in with possibly true and actual facts by this "RV Group", some of which being hard to impossible to verify even when comparing with traditional and ancient sources of knowledge. Of course, as is always the case, this is not just gratuitous but serves a purpose. Possibly this is done because it goes on keeping many purpose in a state of manipulatability, the means being cutting the masses off from those ancient sources of knowledge so they will respond easier and more unquestioningly to present influences.

E.g., it is nonsense to speak of Lucifer as "a pre-human species" as we are talking about a spiritual entity, just like Archangels. If any spiritual entities such as "fallen" angels are incarnated today as human beings, they ARE, to all extents and purposes, human beings, not aliens or anything of the sort. It is their human body which makes them human beings. If any "alien" entities are incarnated as human beings, the same goes for those, even if in some cases in theory they might have loyalties diverging from the usual ones.

I have much doubt also, amongst other things, about some claims of high tech in connection with vanished civilizations, and claims such as those about the presence of ancient humans on other planets such as the Moon or Mars.



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If one was trying to influence a significant segment of thinking individuals . . . they would not choose GLP as a tool to accomplish such a task.

Why would I use glp or similar Forum if I had an agenda? Well, I would use a conspiracy forum to float controversial issues to test acceptance, rejection and psychological response. Either to see if I could fool people or to see what impact controversial truth would cause. On such a Forum I could do little or no harm theoretically because it is considered the lunatic fringe.

One could use it to test a movie script or fantasy book, etc. , but if so, why present it a being true?

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62) Large Ancient Facility on Northern Edge of Sea of Tranquility on moon.

They're [moon landings are] no longer allowed? Why not? And who has power to tell governments what to do? Thanks for answering.

There's examples of technology still present and functioning on the moon that if brought to earth might prove to be a global threat, everyone realised it's not safe
to continue, nobody wished for an extinction level event.



Where were/are these caches located?


All facilities are located in the northern edge of Sea of Tranquility and within the surrounding mountains. There exist at least one large scale facility and dozens smaller ones. All of them have been mapped and photographed, only one was actually accessed.


No large permanent colonies built on the other inner planets or dwarf planets in 100,000 years? Or a way discovered to travel to other stars? Slightly off topic
but if that's true it makes it seem like the simulation theory for our universe is true since that technology is only 50-200 years away for us. That or something kept
them from leaving.


There were large facilities on the Moon and Mars but these were industrial or scientific in nature. No colonies or settlements. It took these people a long time to develop to a point where they travelled beyond earth, also they were less curious than we are due to having media or research and observation over interstellar distances without the need to be physically present.


:Apollo 11:

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52) UPDATE: Mona Lisa Hoax (Apollo mission 20) is partially true:
:Space War:


The Videos are thought to be a very convincing Hoax. They seemed to be a sophisticated fake, using NASA photos and official sound transmissions, etc. they were well done and very entertaining though!!

[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]
Apollo 20 moon spacecraft Mona Lisa hoax debunked


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None, there are societies with roots several thousands years back and access to even older knowledge but that's it.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


What was the most trafficked planet or moon body in our solar system ?

What would we find there today ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65089786


Our moon of course, it's the closest and it's rich in various minerals.

The moon itself is a sterile, cold and windless enviroment so everything is preserved, there are ruins of facilities, at least one large mining ship and an unknown number of smaller craft, presumably some bodies of the former personnel are also preserved. These items are not easily accessible however.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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About the Moon:
There are two videos online, one shows this "alien" lady (Mona Lisa) who was found quite well preserved, and the other one is about some ruins. Now we know that ancient civilizations went to the Moon and built research facilities, but are those videos real or false?
 Quoting: Aestland 2042686

They're real. The ruins one is a partial hoax, the rest is true, since then they have been redecated and added to so not all elements are genuine.
Also, how many planets does our solar system conatain, are there any planets we haven't discovered yet (in our solar system)?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Aestland 2042686


No, we've got the number right.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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They're real. The ruins one is a partial hoax, the rest is true, since then they have been redecated and added to so not all elements are genuine.
...


No, we've got the number right.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


So you are saying the following are real:

1) The wrecked ship
2) The female astronaut body (human)
3) Some of the ruins
4) The Apollo 20 mission
 Quoting: George B

Yes.
How old is the Ship and the female body? Is the body on Earth, if so who is in possession of it?
 Quoting: George B

About 32.000 years old. We do not posess the details of the affair.
 Quoting: Alterwelt



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Is it true that the ship is about 3,4 km long?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2042686

It's about 2 miles long, yes.

Did they go from Earth to the Moon in it, or did they build it on the Moon?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2042686

Vessels like this one were built in orbit and never landed on any planet, their purpose was to travel to the asteroid belt between Jupiter and Mars and mine out the larger asteroids for exotic materials.
You said you do not know the details,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2042686

I do not know the details of Apollo 20 mission, we know everything there is to know about the moon and the refuse found on it.
but maybe You know what kind of awesome high tech sorcery is that condition she was found in?
Thank You.
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None, the Moon is cold and sterile, everything that dies there is perfectly preserved for all eternity. Also she was very dead.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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It was missed before...
Where is the Moon Lady now?
 Quoting: Aestland 1795948

We don't know.
What DO You know about her (genetics, age, status, etc)?

Thank You.
 Quoting: Aestland 1795948


She was no older than 200 at the time of her death, an age corresponding to late 20s.

She, her crew and the ship originated from a state that at the time ruled Asia, the headgear while beyond our ability to retro-engineneer was considered fairly simple by the leading technological powers of the time.

A pilot of a mining ship was an extremely high status, there have been less than few dozen such ships and only a few hundred individuals capable of piloting them worldiwde at that time.

She was responsible for the safety of one of the craft that delivered raw materials that fueled the old worlds industry.

The exact time of her death is 30193 years ago, her ship was caught in the crossfire when both sides attempted to exterminate each other and all civilians caught in between.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

Mmouse moon

Note: An anomaly that looks like a space ship or grounded submarine still lies near the explosions depicted on the above graphic which is near the Mickey Mouse Ears on the Far Side of the Moon. The official Apollo mission 15 survey photos clearly depicts the craft anomaly . . . I am unable to upload them . . . however I highly recommend you take a look at the images . . . just look to the right of the large mound crater in the center of the image strip on both sources below . . [link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
and [link to www.lpi.usra.edu]

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Still curious about ancient orbital satellites from prior civilizations. Did they use them? If so, were they destroyed? Or can they be recovered?

They did use them. No complete examples remain. Parts could be recovered.

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63) Hopi Ant People were machines as were Golems.



:Hopi Ant People:

:Snake Gulch2:



Can you discuss the Legend of the Hopi Ant People . . . were they Ancient Humans?

[link to www.ancient-origins.net]

One of the most intriguing Hopi legends involves the Ant People, who were crucial to the survival of the Hopi—not just once but twice. The so-called “First World” (or world-age) was apparently destroyed by fire—possibly some sort of volcanism, asteroid strike, or coronal mass ejection from the sun. The Second World was destroyed by ice—Ice Age glaciers or a pole shift. During these two global cataclysms, the virtuous members of the Hopi tribe were guided by an odd-shaped cloud during the day and a moving star at night that led them to the sky god named Sotuknang, who finally took them to the Ant People—in Hopi, Anu Sinom. The Ant People then escorted the Hopi into subterranean caves where they found refuge and sustenance. - See more at: [link to www.ancient-origins.net]
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In the same vein, I would be interested in anything you might know about the cat people spoken of in some of the native stories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2920692


The ant people were machines designed to maintain the shelters. The cat people used to be an actual homo sapiens genus who's faces had feline like mimicry.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


:Cat People2:


quote:Alterwelt:MV8yNzAyNzU0XzQ5Mjc1ODk4X0MyNkZFMkRB]
How long ago were the Ant people helping the Hopi?
 Quoting: George B


The people in question are the very distant predecessors to the Pueblo People, the Hopi only inherited the myth.
Are the Hopi shelters still useable?
 Quoting: George B

They exist and almost ceirtanly are at least partially operational, they were not built by the Hopi however.
How long were the Hopi underground?
 Quoting: George B


Their ancestors lived underground for a few generations, when the climate became livable again they left.


1) The pictographs and glyphs of the southwest American Indians are thought to be only at most 4,000 years old or much younger because of a few depiction of horses and other modern species. How old are the oldest ones?
[link to westerndigs.org]
 Quoting: George B

Approximately 8.000 years.

2) Which climatic disaster are we referring? 30,000 plus years ago or the Asteroid before for the Hopi rescue?
 Quoting: George B


It was after the war some 32.000 years ago. This is not a history of the hopi but their extremely distant ancestors.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Maybe it's been answered before, but I can't find any post on the subject, were ancient people able to create life forms out of chemical/mineral compounds? Or could they make unconscious nature, conscious instead?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68645040


They were capable of creating functional AI's with synthetic shells for them.
Also what about Golems? Is there any truth to the stories about them? If so, what they were exactly and how they were created?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68645040


A Golem was effectively an automaton, ancient Jews dug up several dozen of them and, due to simplicity of these devices managed to reboot at least several.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Why is the evidence of Advanced civilization so rare and difficult to find . . . this might help explain . . .

[link to topdocumentaryfilms.com]

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Another reason . . . large rise in sea level . . .

The rate of sea level rise slowed between 14,000 and 12,000 years ago during the Younger Dryas cold period and was succeeded by another surge, "meltwater pulse 1B", 11,500-11,000 years ago, when sea level may have jumped by 28 m according to Fairbanks, although subsequent studies indicate it may have been much less. Meltwater from glacial Lake Agassiz (southwest of Hudson Bay) draining catastrophically into the North Atlantic via Lake Superior and the St. Laurence seaway was once thought to have initiated ocean circulation changes leading to the Younger Dryas cold period. Regional removal of ice sheets, however, occurred nearly 1000 years later, and hence draining of Lake Agassiz could not likely have caused the Younger Dryas cold reversal. This cold spell may have instead been triggered by increased outflow into the Arctic Ocean, the Fram Strait east of Greenland, and ultimately the eastern North Atlantic, between 12,900 and 12,800 years before present, as suggested by the glacial model of Tarasov and Peltier. On the other hand, Leventer et al. indicate that the timing of deglaciation in eastern Antarctica roughly coincides with the onset of meltwater pulse 1B.

[link to www.giss.nasa.gov]

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Also, the Tsunami from the sinking of Atlantis would have been enormous . . . one just 150 to 300 feet high in the Atlantic would devistate the entire east coast of North America. . .

[link to modernsurvivalblog.com]

Several observations regarding a 300 foot tsunami would be the probable devastation of the following major East Coast cities…
Portland, ME (~ 50)
Boston, MA (~ 30)
New Haven, CT (~ 50)
Bridgeport, CT (~ 40)
New York City, NY (~ 20)
Jersey City, NJ (~ 30)
Newark, NJ (~ 50)
Atlantic City, NJ (~ 10)
Wilmington, DE (~ 80)
Philadelphia, PA (~ 40)
Virginia Beach, VA (~ 10)
Wilmington, NC (~ 20)
Myrtle Beach, SC (~ 20)
Charleston, SC (~ 10)
Savannah, GA (~ 10)
Daytona Beach, FL (less than 10)
West Palm Beach, FL (less than 10)
Fort Lauderdale, FL (less than 10)
Miami, FL (less than 10)

Atlantis2

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64) Manna, Moses, and the Exodus (and the finger): also see . . . 33) Ark of the covenant and the Knights Templar: Thread: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data, a Topical Index to Alterwelt's Alternate History (Page 6)


N34) From which Civilization does the Bab-Ilu or Tower of Babel come from? When was it built, where was it built? What was its purpose?
 Quoting: George B


There are two stories here.

When people lost the direct connection to their deeper aspect they turned to science to recreate it, these projects together are recalled as a tower to reach God.

The second is the allegory of scattering and dividing of mankind following the doomsday war some 32,000 years ago.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


N34) So the story is extremely ancient, do we know how the text got into the Pentateuch? What scriptures existed before the Ancient Hebrew text?

 Quoting: George B


Jews got their hands of lots of records from Egypt, apart from the finger, the ark, the mobile algae farm and several other devices that Moses stole there were records that formed the basis of some of the Old Testament.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Can you give a date range or approximate date when the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt lead by Moses began?
 Quoting: George B


Approximately 3400 years ago or 1.400 BCE. Approximately 11.000 Jews left with Moses and some 4.000 remained behind. The whole journey lasted the better part of a year.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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Can you give a date range or approximate date when the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt lead by Moses began?
 Quoting: George B


Approximately 3400 years ago or 1.400 BCE. Approximately 11.000 Jews left with Moses and some 4.000 remained behind. The whole journey lasted the better part of a year.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


Thanks! I am trying to construct a timeline from your input and this target date was important!

So these few Hebrew were capable of conquering all the inhabitants of the Promise Land? How did this happen? Was it as detailed in the Old Testiment?
 Quoting: George B


Palestine and the surrounding lands were inhabited by hunter gatherers living in the ruins of older and greater realms, the few who lived in organised societies were fewer in number and fought each other.

Hebrews brought egyptian iron and bronze, more importantly egyptian steel. Moses knew the art of war in a way the people of Palestine did not, finally they had the Ark and the Finger to use if all else failed.

 Quoting: Alterwelt


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How were they able to use the finger as a weapon?
 Quoting: George B


Pointy end at the enemy army, press the trigger, watch a couple of men evaporate into their component particles while the enemy's morale crumbles.

These were simple times, a show of technological might went a long way to convince the other side that the Hebrew God was the premiere power.

 Quoting: Alterwelt




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[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

A plasma torch (also known as a plasma arc, plasma gun, or plasma cutter) is a device for generating a directed flow of plasma.[1] The plasma jet can be used for applications including plasma cutting, plasma spraying, and plasma arc waste disposal.
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1) The "finger" please explain?
 Quoting: George B

A portable plasma-like torch. These things were left over from a much earlier age having a renewable energy source, the priests used them to carve in stone and Moses used it to inscribe the commandments burning his face in the process.
2) The manna . . . was from the algae farm I assume? [link to en.m.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: George B

Correct, it was an algae farm, devices like these were once placed in every city in designated locations to provide free food for the poor.
Manna Machine

3) The Exodus was started in what year?
 Quoting: George B

Unclear.
4) Did they really spend 40 years wandering in the wilderness?
 Quoting: George B

A few months.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

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You say Moses stole technology to part the Red Sea...are you implying that Moses was not under any influence other than his own and what he could accomplish with some tools?
 Quoting: The_Last_In_Line

If you're implying God as per bible, no. Moses' motives were simple, he wanted a people to rule and being inducted into the priestly caste of Egypt he was shown the vaults and records of older times including tools and artifacts.

What was the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night?
 Quoting: The_Last_In_Line

A side effect of a faulty mobile algae farm that fed Israelis. It worked but produced excess heat, light and radiation.

Did Moses write the Torah?
 Quoting: The_Last_In_Line

No.
How did these ancients manage to encode Kabbalah into Torah if it was only man at work in it's creation?
 Quoting: The_Last_In_Line

At one point divination was a hard science combining mathematics and mental disciplines. It was possible to predict the future and encode it.

Also, as a remote viewer, does it become self-evident that there is a spirit world and, if so, was Moses likely directed by entities from it?
 Quoting: The_Last_In_Line

Moses was a man driven by ambition. He wanted a people to rule and discovered tools that allowed him to appear as a chosen miracle worker to people who did not understand technology from a much earlier period.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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9) Shambala still exists today! Update
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You said that shambhala still exists to this day? Can you please describe it's current state and if it is still accessed by modern man at all? Would it be able to be accessed if it were to be found

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It cannot be accessed or found without permission. It looks exactly the same as the day it was built.
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How old is shambhala?
Which civilization was it built by?
Is it hidden by ancient technology?
Quoting: newfie 58124141

Over 50.000 years. It was desgined by global authorities of the time. Yes it is hidden via technological means.

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Shambala, shambhala

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What about the Shambhala?

Shambhala is a real place. Originaly an outpost from the first high period it survives to this day.
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You said that shambhala still exists to this day? Can you please describe
it's current state and if it is still accessed by modern man at all? Would it be
able to be accessed if it were to be found?

It cannot be accessed or found without permission. It looks exactly the same as the
day it was built.

does it exist in our dimension on earth but is just hidden from us?

Correct.

Are there currently humans living in shambhala to this day?

Yes. There are.

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How old is shambhala? Which civilization was it built by? Is it hidden by
ancient technology?

Over 50.000 years. It was desgined by global authorities of the time. Yes it is hidden via technological means.

So the inhabitants are modern man or are somehow more directly related to the 50,000 year old civilization?

Mostly related to the precursor people.


Do they interact freely with existing cultures presently?

No. They don't.



Any other info you could give on shambhala? Are the inhabitants living in a state of peace and tranqulilty? Do they still use and maintain the ancient tech? Do
they hold onto the old knowledge of past civilizations?

We're unable to provide information about it's current state and status.


The inhabitants of Shambala came to the Buddhas Kalachakra teachings. It is said they arrived in a most unusual way. That was a hint at spaceship travel.

Every group of note attented the teachings of Buddha and Jesus.


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Who decides access to Shambhala?

It's inhabitants.

What's the population there? How many have they allowed in? Is it really as
depicted where no one grows old and is a like a garden of eden? Also, could you give us the links to the other places on the internet that your group participates
in?

We have no data pertaining to it's current status in any regard.
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These groups that have been meditating since ancient times, such as Shambala,
according to your findings, are they accomplishing anything for civilization?

They helped reboot civilization each time it seized to exist.

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What we're the ten commandments? Just 2 stones with Moses writing cool shit on them?
 Quoting: Kish42

Moses took the truths of egyptian priesthood and added to them.
Is the smashing of the bull in religious texts really an allegory for moving out of the age of taurus?
 Quoting: Kish42

No. Jews literally worshipped the bull deity and Moses turned them away from it.

Isn't Shamballa the same as Hollow Earth Theory? Isn't Shamballa inside the earth? Where is Shamballa?
 Quoting: Kish42


Somewhere in the Himalayas. No it is not beneath the earth.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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There are, at the root of almost every ancient civilization, deities that were identified as snakes or snake men. Quetzacoatl, Kukulcan, Amaru, the Naga, etc. Quetzacoatl and Kukulcan were snakes and also tall bearded white men. The Egyptians, the Sumerian, the Babylonians, the Vedic Indians, the Chinese, the Greeks, all worshipped snakes at one point or another. There is the serpent in the garden of Eden, which actually means sorcerer in Hebrew. Then there is the brotherhood of the snake. My question is, why the proliferation of serpent worship in so many disparate cultures? Why the constant presence of these snake/Dragon priests in every single ancient cultures? King Arthur was said to fly a banner of a red Dragon, the hittites worshipped dragons, and on and on it goes. It seems to be a common thread that binds every single ancient culture. What is your explanation for this?

A winged dragon in the shape of a snake was a symbol of a brotherhood that attempted to revive civilization after the flood. These people thought ancient natives in South America about agriculture, their member saved Egypt from famine and more. Their symbol survived them.

 Quoting: George B

The information about Shambala given out by Alterwelt is very interesting. It is mostly in agreement with what Rudolf Steiner said about Atlantis and the post-Atlantean humanity : long before Atlantis was finally destroyed, initiates led a group (or several groups), selected amongst the most evolved, to the east until they finally reached central Asia where they settled.

Needless to say, these were the people who founded post-Atlantean civilization, including the various Indo-European cultures. Everywhere else around the world, what you can see are descendants or remnants of Atlantean times or earlier.

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The information about Shambala given out by Alterwelt is very interesting. It is mostly in agreement with what Rudolf Steiner said about Atlantis and the post-Atlantean humanity : long before Atlantis was finally destroyed, initiates led a group (or several groups), selected amongst the most evolved, to the east until they finally reached central Asia where they settled.

Needless to say, these were the people who founded post-Atlantean civilization, including the various Indo-European cultures. Everywhere else around the world, what you can see are descendants or remnants of Atlantean times or earlier.

Beware of disinfo about Steiner.
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I don't think Shambhala is in the Himalayans. . . if it really still exists.

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58) 1561 celestial phenomenon over Nuremberg, Evidence of Ancient War 32,000 years ago Thread: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data, a Topical Index to Alterwelt's Alternate History (Page 9)

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Neuremberg
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I was curious, as I'd not heard of Neuremerg 1561 … OP, Is this a visual playback of the Destruction of the 2nd Civilization. If not, a playback of what?
Thanks so much. This was recorded in a form of Art of the time.

An aerial battle between two skyfleets.

Thanks! Can you say of what time frame? 1st Civiliz. 2nd Civiliz. Skyfleets of what time period?

Second civilization. Final stages of the global war. In that period nations had aerial navies as well as naval ones.


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Can you tell something more about the battle in the skies witnessed over Neuremberg in 1561?

Places remember, emotions implant themselves into walls, the air, the ground. When some site was a place of dramatic event people will feel odd and should conditions arise a sort of visual playback might become available to a viewer. That is what happened over Neurembeg in 1561.

You're saying something triggered a memory of the past? It was something like a mass illusion/ fata morgana? (Project Blue beam?) Do you know what triggered it?

The exact conditions differ and the mechanism is not fully understood but correct. Someone fought over Neuremberg in the past just like in twenty thousand years people will see dogfights over where London once was should similar conditions allow.



Do you think this mechanism is also responsible for a lot of the current UFO sightings?

Yes, some of them.


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Space Debris . . . from NASA



[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: George B


Still curious about ancient orbital satellites from prior civilizations. Did they use them? If so, were they destroyed? Or can they be recovered?

They did use them. No complete examples remain. Parts could be recovered.

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66) Where is Shambhala? In my opinion Shambhala is most likely under the ocean . . . Shambhala is hiding in plain sight.
Under the Ocean . . . why?
. they need all these benefits derived from that environment if they were to survive over 50,000 with their genetics, technology, extended lifespans and social structure intact. This could not be attained if they were on the surface as in the Himalayas as was stated by Alterwelt. This does not mean they could not have temporary presence there or on Mount Olympus, etc.




WHY?

1) Because the ocean depths offer unlimited Protection from the radiation that we suffer from. The ozone depletion since the global war 32,000 years ago would also affect the residents of Shambhala who would want to protect their extended lifespans by protecting themselves from genetic damage and immune system suppression caused by the effects of UVA and UVB radiation, and
2) because under the ocean they are all but impervious to anything but a direct nuclear strike
3) . . . also the ocean represents unlimited food supplies, as well as limitless material resources and energy which can be exploited without leaving evidence of their use.
4) at great depths they would be nearly impossible to detect even with today's human technology . . .
5) also if they maintained mobility by some type of free floating structures they would be almost immune to tectonic instability (i.e. Tsunamis)
6) and if they felt they could be detected they could just pick themselves up and move themselves (Habitats) with relative ease. They can also go almost anywhere on the earth's surface in massive groups or disperse as necessary without detection.

Supportive Evidence and Discussion to follow:
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N23) Shamballa, (also spelled Shambhala and Shambala ) and according to your group it still exists! You have indicated it is in the Himalayas. It is concealed from discovery via technology and is only approached if invited by its inhabitants. It has been inhabited for at least 50,000 years and has rebooted human civilizations.

Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

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Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

They help out after each collapse, seeds, basic survival skills, sending out teachers and emissaries who disguised as wise men erect societies anew.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

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66) Where is Shambhala? In my opinion Shambhala is most likely under the ocean . . . Shambhala is hiding in plain sight.
Under the Ocean . . . why?
. they need all these benefits derived from that environment if they were to survive over 50,000 with their genetics, technology, extended lifespans and social structure intact. This could not be attained if they were on the surface as in the Himalayas as was stated by Alterwelt. This does not mean they could not have temporary presence there or on Mount Olympus, etc.


WHY?

1) Because the ocean depths offer unlimited Protection from the radiation that we suffer from. The ozone depletion since the global war 32,000 years ago would also affect the residents of Shambhala who would want to protect their extended lifespans by protecting themselves from genetic damage and immune system suppression caused by the effects of UVA and UVB radiation, and
2) because under the ocean they are all but impervious to anything but a direct nuclear strike
3) . . . also the ocean represents unlimited food supplies, as well as limitless material resources and energy which can be exploited without leaving evidence of their use.
4) at great depths they would be nearly impossible to detect even with today's human technology . . .
5) also if they maintained mobility by some type of free floating structures they would be almost immune to tectonic instability (i.e. Tsunamis)
6) and if they felt they could be detected they could just pick themselves up and move themselves (Habitats) with relative ease. They can also go almost anywhere on the earth's surface in massive groups or disperse as necessary without detection.

Supportive Evidence and Discussion to follow:
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N23) Shamballa, (also spelled Shambhala and Shambala ) and according to your group it still exists! You have indicated it is in the Himalayas. It is concealed from discovery via technology and is only approached if invited by its inhabitants. It has been inhabited for at least 50,000 years and has rebooted human civilizations.

Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

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Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

They help out after each collapse, seeds, basic survival skills, sending out teachers and emissaries who disguised as wise men erect societies anew.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

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 Quoting: George B

Sometimes one can speculate on as much that is not shared as with what is shared. . .

Alterwelt has given credence to this by avoiding answering any question about underwater activities except a rare few chosen ones and by denying any knowledge of activities where the Ancients worked and resided there. Either they are ignorant of the info, or it has been blocked from their inquiry or they are deliberately withholding it. I am considering any one of the above or a complex combination of all the above.

These rebooters of human civilization, these benefactors may have temporary outposts in the Himalayan Mountains or Olympus and a few others. But logic IMO puts their permanent address under the ocean or deep under the earth. However, the subterranean option seems unlikely as a long term solution because of its ultimate toxic environments. It becomes difficulty to escape from if detected or if confronted by unexpected tectonic or astronomical threat. It is also more difficult to obtain food and dispose of waste, heat etc. This does not mean they would not use temporary outposts in the Himalayan Mountains or on Olympus and a few others . . . Mount Kailash for example . . . Thread: Is "Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data. Is Alterwelt's Alternate History Real or Hoax? (Page 22)

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66) Where is Shambhala? In my opinion Shambhala is most likely under the ocean . . . Shambhala is hiding in plain sight.
Under the Ocean . . . why?
. they need all these benefits derived from that environment if they were to survive over 50,000 with their genetics, technology, extended lifespans and social structure intact. This could not be attained if they were on the surface as in the Himalayas as was stated by Alterwelt. This does not mean they could not have temporary presence there or on Mount Olympus, etc.


WHY?

1) Because the ocean depths offer unlimited Protection from the radiation that we suffer from. The ozone depletion since the global war 32,000 years ago would also affect the residents of Shambhala who would want to protect their extended lifespans by protecting themselves from genetic damage and immune system suppression caused by the effects of UVA and UVB radiation, and
2) because under the ocean they are all but impervious to anything but a direct nuclear strike
3) . . . also the ocean represents unlimited food supplies, as well as limitless material resources and energy which can be exploited without leaving evidence of their use.
4) at great depths they would be nearly impossible to detect even with today's human technology . . .
5) also if they maintained mobility by some type of free floating structures they would be almost immune to tectonic instability (i.e. Tsunamis)
6) and if they felt they could be detected they could just pick themselves up and move themselves (Habitats) with relative ease. They can also go almost anywhere on the earth's surface in massive groups or disperse as necessary without detection.

Supportive Evidence and Discussion to follow:
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N23) Shamballa, (also spelled Shambhala and Shambala ) and according to your group it still exists! You have indicated it is in the Himalayas. It is concealed from discovery via technology and is only approached if invited by its inhabitants. It has been inhabited for at least 50,000 years and has rebooted human civilizations.

Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

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Which civilizations did they reboot and how did they accomplish this reboot?
 Quoting: George B

They help out after each collapse, seeds, basic survival skills, sending out teachers and emissaries who disguised as wise men erect societies anew.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

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 Quoting: George B

Sometimes one can speculate on as much that is not shared as with what is shared. . .

Alterwelt has given credence to this by avoiding answering any question about underwater activities except a rare few chosen ones and by denying any knowledge of activities where the Ancients worked and resided there. Either they are ignorant of the info, or it has been blocked from their inquiry or they are deliberately withholding it. I am considering any one of the above or a complex combination of all the above.

These rebooters of human civilization, these benefactors may have temporary outposts in the Himalayan Mountains or Olympus and a few others. But logic IMO puts their permanent address under the ocean or deep under the earth. However, the subterranean option seems unlikely as a long term solution because of its ultimate toxic environments. It becomes difficulty to escape from if detected or if confronted by unexpected tectonic or astronomical threat. It is also more difficult to obtain food and dispose of waste, heat etc. This does not mean they would not use temporary outposts in the Himalayan Mountains or on Olympus and a few others . . . Mount Kailash for example . . . Thread: Is "Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data. Is Alterwelt's Alternate History Real or Hoax? (Page 22)
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Speculative Evidence:


1) Where did Atlantis escape too? . . . Gilgamesh, Noah . . .to the sea in an Ark. Is it not logical that Shambhala would not think the ocean was a logical choice as well?

2) We know the Ancients had massive air and naval fleets . . . Seems logical they would be very expert at undersea operations . . . though we are years behind their technology we maintain an enormous undersea activity . . . what is the only triad of the nuclear missile deterrent presently remaining? . . . the ballistic missile submarine fleet.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Ballistic missile submarines are larger than any other type of submarine, in order to accommodate ballistic missilescapable of carrying nuclear warheads.
China – Type 094 submarine, Type 092 submarine
France – Triomphant class
Russia – Typhoon, Delta, and Borei classes
United Kingdom – Vanguard class
United States – Ohio class
India – Arihant class

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Thanks! Can you say of what time frame? 1st Civiliz. 2nd Civiliz. Skyfleets of what time period?

Second civilization. Final stages of the global war. In that period nations had aerial navies as well as naval ones.
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66) Where is Shambhala? (continued)


Speculative Evidence:


3) Japanese USO woman demonstrates advanced undersea capability since 1803.. [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] and [link to www.ghosttheory.com]

4) Whales and dolphins used as helpers in the oceans shows great expertise and knowledge of undersea activities: Dolphins and whales as life guards.
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(It is said whales are record keepers. Do you agree? Have you viewed them and if so, what things have you learned?



Whales and dolphins were genetically modified. . . .

. . . By knowledge we meant memory. . . .

. . . A dolphin's ancestor would remember being used in the capacity of a lifeguard but that's it. Their genetic memory is limited to what interaction they had with members of earlier cultures. . . .

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66) Where is Shambhala? (continued)

5) Evidence of advance undersea vessels not known to modern navies.
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A sonar operator aboard a destroyer reported that one of the subs suddenly commenced pursuit of an unknown submerged object that was moving at "over 150 knots" (170-plus miles per hour!). According to most accounts, similar sonar reports of a high-speed object began coming in from all of the other ships and from the sonar-trailing aircraft. One of Sanderson's sources stated that no less than 13 craft recorded in their logs that their sonars had tracked this object. Allegedly, the unknown target continued to be tracked for four days as it maneuvered down to depths of 27,000 feet! (This must have been in the vicinity of the Atlantic's deepest point -- 28,374 feet below sea level -- in the Puerto Rico Trench.)
[link to www.unexplained-mysteries.com]

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66) Where is Shambhala? (continued)


7) Under water refueling station on Ceres used by the massive asteroid mining ships of the Ancients, curiously it was submarine shaped
. . . a submarine shaped spaceship was caught between opposing sides in a war and was disabled and left on the far side of the moon, (note: its shape was built not for aerodynamic conditions flying in a gaseous atmosphere or space conditions where the shape is useless overkill but for undersea conditions as would be encountered on Ceres and is very evidentiary of the probable ocean expertise the Ancients possessed. Also, why was the refueling operation under the ocean on Ceres? . . shielding from solar and other radiation because the planetoid has no atmosphere or ozone layer.

:CeresSub2:
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54) Ceres the Dwarf Planet in the Asteroid Belt beyond Mars Thread: Remote Viewing Ancient Civilizations - a compilation of data, a Topical Index to Alterwelt's Alternate History (Page 9)
1) The Planetoid (Dwarf Planet) Ceres in the asteroid belt beyond Mars . . was it one of the resources mined by the Ancient Human Civilizations . . . ?

2) Is this a reason NASA is so interested in the planetoid?

[link to www.nasa.gov]

[link to mashable.com]

Thread: Feb 25th!!! Dawn spacecraft, approaching dwarf planet Ceres, transmits footage of strange lights there, has scientists perplexed!!!!
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There exits a, presumably intact refueling station on Ceres, it is submerged in the internal remnant ocean under the ice.

Whether it still exists is unknown, the knowledge was gleaned from terrestrial registers dating back to the period when it was utilized.
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52) Mona Lisa Hoax (Apollo mission 20) is partially true:

MonaShipDS

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Note: the ship still lies near the Mickey Mouse Ears on the Far Side of the Moon. The official Apollo mission 15 survey photos clearly depicts the craft . . . I am unable to upload them . . . however I highly recommend you take a look at the images . . . just look to the right of the large mound crater in the center of the image strip on both sources below . . [link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
and [link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
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66) Where is Shambhala? (continued)

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10) Lucifer

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Interesting! What was he if not human?
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A member of a highly advanced pre-human species who did not share his kinds dislike towards mankind.
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Lucifer - a remnant soul of the first civilization teaching early survivors of the second civilization basic lost knowledge?
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No, Lucifer was not human, he gave early man secrets of hot air baloons, gunpowder, basic farming and more. He is directly responsible for ending the hunter gatherer way of life of early human species.
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67) Prayer

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Did the Ancients use prayer or the scientific equivalent to manifest reality?
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I do not understand.

Did they accomplish physical actions through prayer . . .
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No, you can influence matter but you cannot create or affect it in a physical way through prayer.

As in healing or influencing behavior or producing harmony, etc?
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It was used to heal, it can still be used in this way, get a thousand people to pray sincerely and regularly and within months even terminal illness can be conquered.

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Alterwelt (OP), is there any truth to the Saint Benadict medal that wards against destroying witchcraft and all diabolical and haunting influences? If my question falls to the spiritual world can you at least answer if this medal imparts protection?

thank you.
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The only thing that wards off such things is prayer and belief.

Regardless of religion if you pray sincerely and with good intent it will help.
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Alterwelt, your group has made several general statements regarding prayer and its practise . . . you seem to imply it has an effect . . .
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Correct, it does.
1) can you discuss the science behind your statements?
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When you pray your brain resonates in a manner that allows direct communication with various inner sphere sources including what you call God.

2) you also implied that the lower or inner sphere entities are able to take notice of individuals and this should be avoided. If what you say about these demonic entities is correct . . . how does one avoid being noticed? Could this happen by error or mistake?
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It could. The more unhinged a person is the more likely he or she is to attract such attention.
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Unhinged means . . . insane, angry, desperate, criminal . . . could you expand? Are there practices that should be avoided as well?
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Every type of excess that becomes addictive or simply frequent, it is a wide subject that's immaterial to the thread as such.
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Your last statement: do you mean targeting and healing a single person or bringing a terminal disease affecting many,
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Healing.

many people under control across an entire population simultaneously? As in curing Ebola world wide?
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The range and intensity of prayer and associated effects vary wildly and there are literally dozens of factors.
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Will thought or intent work along the same lines as prayer in influencing matter?
Thank you for your time and answering questions..
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No, it will not.
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I have to ask then as a follow up, as you say, "No, it will not" and prayer does, this leads one to postulate that there then has to be a higher power for prayer to work?
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There exists a natural order to creation that's both responsive and aware in a way that would take too much space in a thread we started for a different purpose.

A grand oversimplification if you will: your brain fires up the right kind of neurons when you pray and a gate of sorts opens between your mind and the inner realms that in turns allows people to become responsive in subtle but powerfull ways.

A dying person will be empowered to heal in a way that defies your knowledge, a failing businessman will be motivated, a hopeless life will be turned around. Prayer is not the end-all remedy but it does fill all the gaps that prevent a human from surmounting a challenge, you still need to act however.

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Did the first and second civilizations believe in God or a creator. if so, did they find ways to commune directly with God in a physical manner.

They believed in him. More tangible forms of prayer did exist in both periods.

What do you mean about tangible forms of prayer? Has there been any physical artifacts of God recovered from the first and second civilizations?

God leaves no artifacts. Tangible meaning capable of producing instant results.

As in thoughts manifest physical form or physical force?

The subject is broad. Suffice to say it was possible to receive an answer, albeit not one you could phrase in words.

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Hauntings and poltergeist activities, are these mediated by the same entities as the lower sphere entities of the Ancients?
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No, these are emotional imprints.
Is the Ouija Board a possible conduit to the lower sphere entities or simply a harmless parlor curiosity revealing nothing but human psychological vulnerabilities?
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There is generally a thick layer of reality between the outer and inner worlds but if you keep pushing your luck you might eventually pique unwanted attention.

If you really must play with things you don't understand stick to prayer, it will help if done with sincerety.
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The information about Shambala given out by Alterwelt is very interesting. It is mostly in agreement with what Rudolf Steiner said about Atlantis and the post-Atlantean humanity : long before Atlantis was finally destroyed, initiates led a group (or several groups), selected amongst the most evolved, to the east until they finally reached central Asia where they settled.

Needless to say, these were the people who founded post-Atlantean civilization, including the various Indo-European cultures. Everywhere else around the world, what you can see are descendants or remnants of Atlantean times or earlier.

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I don't think Shambhala is in the Himalayans. . . if it really still exists.
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Well, maybe central Asia, to the north of the Himalayas somewhere... in that huge basin which is now a desert.

Blavatsky mentions it in her book in this context. But I do remember having seen the Himalayas mentioned somewhere. I am not talking here about the original Atlantean colonies of course.
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The information about Shambala given out by Alterwelt is very interesting. It is mostly in agreement with what Rudolf Steiner said about Atlantis and the post-Atlantean humanity : long before Atlantis was finally destroyed, initiates led a group (or several groups), selected amongst the most evolved, to the east until they finally reached central Asia where they settled.

Needless to say, these were the people who founded post-Atlantean civilization, including the various Indo-European cultures. Everywhere else around the world, what you can see are descendants or remnants of Atlantean times or earlier.

Beware of disinfo about Steiner.
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I don't think Shambhala is in the Himalayans. . . if it really still exists.
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Well, maybe central Asia, to the north of the Himalayas somewhere... in that huge basin which is now a desert.

Blavatsky mentions it in her book in this context. But I do remember having seen the Himalayas mentioned somewhere. I am not talking here about the original Atlantean colonies of course.
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69) Additional New Alterwelt Group Posting
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I found an additional source where one of the Alterwelt Group posted info in 2013 . . . under the name of "Alatloc" . . . almost identical info but only four pages in length . . . I am unable to post a link, however, Edited content is found below:

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Where exactly on the Earth was Atlantis?

Originally along the atlantic ridge, not quite as large as many purport it to be. It was an elongated land mass split apart along the middle by an extremely tall mountain range that span the length of it. Though of elongated shape its overall size was comparable to present day Australia.

This small continent was surrounded by clusters of Islands, some of them as large or larger than all the british isles combined. What Plato describes is a period when the larger landmass was no longer above water and only some of these surrounding islands existed.

Specifically he describes a large island off the western coast of Africa, geographically beyond the Pillars of Hercules, the final large remnant of the continent that went down over 12.000 years ago and caused the cataclysmic end of the glacial period with associated floods and torrential rains.

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Great, thanks. Where did humans come from?

Specifically? We have no idea but all the evidence suggests Africa, cranially robust humans (as smart as us) popped up in Africa some 300.000 years ago along a series of long gone lakes, there was a significant viarety of species most of which are today lost to official archeology.

The prevailing theory among those in the know is that evolution consists of long changes interrupted by extremely rapid bouts of mutation which over several centuries can completely alter a species, it happened in the remote past, why this processed stopped no one knows but it appears that there indeed was some "ape-man" or several different strands of it that evolved into a variety of forms over an extremely short period of time.
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Did they have stargates?

I have no idea what's the deal with stargates, are they one of the catchphrases like Indigo Children? Not to my knowledge and as far as i know the people who're on the topic never spoke of it, neither do documents and sources.

There existed a number of portals of sorts, carved into solid rock in the mountainsides, the Smithsonian people dubbed them foldgates, these are essentially folding space to allow rapid transportation, they exist in Africa and Americans but none were ever found operational, they worked once and Native Americans used them to move about, sometimes landing in Africa convinced its a different world but when they were operational, even as late as XIX century they were simply pieces of ancient science, how they operated, what was the principle is not known especially since they were essentially portals carved out in solid rock with no controls or moving parts, the few already malfunctioning examples of this technology stopped working either in late XIX or sometime before World War one, presumably due to passage of time whatever made them work ran out of juice.

I need to clarify that smithsonian crowd did find a few of them working, just not able to move people, the location on the other side was visible and presumably some of their team actually went to Africa and located the exit point but no one ever tried walking into one of them after what happened to animals they chucked in.

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Were the atlanteans humans?


Very much so, although for the majority of our history there existed many very different species, some aesthetically so different we'd have to examine their DNA to assert they're humans. Atlanteas specifically were human.
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where did they come from and where did they go?
They were decimated and regressed to an almost stone age level, after that their descendants crawled back from this pit and after over 12.000 years of rebuilding here we are.

Specifically there was a series of catastrophes, first in 75.000 B.C, then a war in 32.000 B.C, a global calamity in 15.000 B.C and final destruction in 12.500 B.C. Over that period of time the people of the world repeatedly climbed back to reach a civilized level and lost it, always rebuilding civilization in a manner inferior to the previous ones. We're the exception as we rebuilt quite magnificently and if you wanted to find civilization that exceeded ours you'd need to turn the clock over thirty thousand years.

As for where did they come from? They evolved technologically and socially like we did, the point to make here is that civilizations emerged as early as 200.000 years ago and then started gaining sophistication as society and science evolved.

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did they have a written history and if so has it been discovered?

Yes they did the problem here is that while they did leave various records including time capsules in the form of many, many "halls of records" as new age dubbed them, its been a very long time during which earth changed drastically.

Even the people who're in on the whole thing, even the highest ranks have fragmentary knowledge at best, thats still a lot more than the rest of people but i doubt we'll ever recover a complete and detailed historic record, oficially or otherwise.

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Did they ever make contact with aliens?

Not to my knowledge.

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Did they ever make contact with aliens?

Not to my knowledge.

What role did crystals (if any) play in the Atlantean period?
There's no such thing as an atlantean period, Atlantis played a pivotal role in human development for over 150.000 years, thats enough time to have 20 different periods or even more.

People in the know measure their history by the cataclysms they endured. When they had their high period which end ed 32.000 years ago they used synthetic crystal-shaped alloys and materials in the role of superconductors and in other ways, in laymans terms they processed the powers of terrestrial magnetism and solar energy to have an effectively limitless power supply.

In the final iteration of their civilization they no longer had the scietific basis to use whatever was left from their higher periods.
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What are the theories explaining the changes in height? Any idea about average lifespan? How was the dentistry?

No theories here, facts though yes.

Solar radiation is harfmul to us on several different levels, it hastens cellular degradation, aging, trace radiation levels damage the very DNA of species over the span of many generations.

The glacial periods saw a thick ozone layer which shielded earths life from all that harfmull radiation, this resulted in gigantism in both animals and humans, brains were also much more developed, health was much improved and lifespans were considerably longer.

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3-4 feet, more then 90% of building construction made in US goes deeper then that, millions of digs.
Why haven't we found any evidence yet?



Its being found over and over again but in our daily activities no one is going to stop for a few bones, sticks, if some worker digs up a mechanical part he'll just think its from some other construction.

There are real smoking guns, quite a few of them but these are kept well under control.

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How about Arizona?

Any truth to the rumor of them locating in the Grand Canyon?


If you're referring to the cavern system in the Grand Canyon the settlement inside has little to do with actual Atlantis.

First it was used by a schismatic group of Native Americans who fled their brethren over a religious dispute almost 10.000 years ago, these people were very sophisticated but that was over 25 centuries after the flood.

Then it was used by Egyptians in the period of the Old Kingdom as well as Phoenicians so there's quite a few groups who used it over time, there are artifacts and structures there that would put our history under serious questioning hence the site is off limits but its not directly connected to Atlantis or its times.

Why the secrecy?
Atlanteans and antediluvial people in general held beliefs and worldviews that directly conflict with worlds major religions, the very fact that humanity scaled the ladder of civilization in times when its supposed to be people with stones and sticks is in conflict with academia who built their career on a different thesis, the regression of humanity could mess up the theory of evolution, the fact that races and nations stem from a unified source would hurt various nationalist movements.

There's lots of power and money that could and would be lost if such discoveries did alter humanity's perception of itself.


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If there is smoking guns why keep them a secret?

At this point politicians, businessmen and academia created a certain stable reality in which they can hold on to their power and generate their revenue, discoveries that can alter the very nature of human perception of the world and destroy that stable enviroment are no longer welcome.
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Was the final cataclysmic event man made?

The Atlanteans were convinced it was, at this stage they were significantly less sophisticated than we're today but they believed that its their own malfunctioning devices that are responsible for what was going to happen, it worth noting they expected their world to end for at least two centuries before the final upheaval, that was the trigger to build pyramids, plant various records and migrate to locations they perceived as safe.

Today we know their efforts failed by principle of us having to rebuild from scratch.



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I'd like to know, OP, how you are able to answer all these questions.

Where have you, or how have you, gained your knowledge on the subject?

Lots of luck, right people met at right moments and a good trading position in exchange for limited access, thats all you're getting.

Or not, a usefull hint would be that no information is ever destroyed, its stored, controlled but never obliterated, that means that there are people who handle it even at lower levels and no matter how tight a ship you run where there's people there's leaks.

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Sorry but I got to call BS on that, there are thousands of scientists that would give their left nut to prove there was an Atlantis, anyone with that opportunity would not go silent.

Thats true, the issue here are not just scientists but the scientists who hold a conrolling share in academia as such, these people are not interested in the truth.

Smithsonian for example is notorious for "misplacing" artifacts and they're by far not the only ones, there's an entire industry grown around concealing everything out of line with nominal history.

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What did Atlanteans look like? What did their clothing look like? Post a recipe for some dish from Atlantis. What did they like to eat?

I've heard that sanskrit is in some way related to Atlantis?

We have no idea what their dishes were, we know they ate less meat and more fruit but there's a limit of what you can extrapolate from a 12 millenia old corpse.

That said they engineered the banana fruit as well as corn.

In the final iteration of Atlantis they looked like us, there were two dominant ethnic groups, the first were the ancestors of amerindians (native americans) who looked more or less like the North American Indians however their facial features were more refined and closer to indo-european.

The other group were indo-european whites, a late addition to the civilizations of the globe they joined the civilizations of that time around 20.000 years ago.

Sanskrit is a jumbled mix which describes an apocalyptic war over 30.000 years ago, some fictional work and wars that took place in India shortly before and after The Deluge.

This odd mix results in elephants and soldiers with swords fighting alongside aircraft, in reality the sword armored troops were those who fought some 12.500 years ago while atomic warfare took place significantly earlier.

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Alatloc Wrote:
Thats true, the issue here are not just scientists but the scientists who hold a conrolling share in academia as such, these people are not interested in the truth.

Smithsonian for example is notorious for "misplacing" artifacts and they're by far not the only ones, there's an entire industry grown around concealing everything out of line with nominal history.

Who is it that you look to as an expert in this field? How about this guy?

[link to www.theatlantisproject.org]
Quote:People have speculated over the dates Atlantis sank for years. If you favor the Mediterranean version of Atlantis, you have one date. If you favor something something in the Atlantic near Bimini, you typically favor an older date. I tend to lean towards the later.

Many people believe that the sinking of Atlantis coincided


I do not look up to anyone because there are no mainstream or new age related researchers who could be considered experts. Zahir Hawass as well as all the directors of Smithsonian are absolutely scholarly in their knowledge of antediluvian times but you wont find any of them talking, ever.


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Did priests hold political power?

Priests were A political power, in the final few millennia they created an international society of scholars who attempted to preserve and control what technology was still available as well as re-develop new ones.

They did not rule any single country but their scientific acumen made them a party that any government listened to, they were the instigators of the Giza complex project, they built the various halls of records and time capsules and after the cataclysm the few surviving members of this group attempted to kickstart civilization back up in South America, hence the legend of Viracocha.

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I notice that a lot of museums don't even have real artifacts. They only display fakes sighting theft as their reasoning. I suppose free energy is the other smoking gun?

Tesla was privy to one of the time capsules left somewhere in Hungary or Ukraine, using information contained there he retro-engineered the Tesla Coil just like the owner of Coral Castle built simple magnetic gravity manipulator based off the same hall of records.

Tesla was stopped, Scallman was smart enough to be secretive.

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Proof ancient advanced civilizations never existed.

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Proof ancient advanced civilizations never existed.
1. No artifacts found (no tools, no items showing advanced engineering).

2. No synthetic material artifacts - advanced civilizations work with advanced materials, we're going to leave plastic junk for tens of thousands of years to come for example, where's the junk of Atlantis?

3. No ruins - this one is a bit tricky however since there are ruins scattered here and there but none of them on a scale of a city or even a town.

4. Definite proof of human evolution via tools and progressive advancements found in strata

5. Penis.

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68) The Ancients had a Virtual Reality WWW: A World Wide Web that was a virtual reality construct accessible through neural interface without the need for invasive devices:

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Returning to a question you previously answered about the existence of an ancient "virtual reality" with similar properties to today's Internet:

"The virtual reality exists to this day and attempts are being made to access it"

Does the infrastructure that supported this ancient VR still exist? Or was it created in another dimension that persists outside our time?

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The virtual reality of the ancient period was created using human mind as hardware, it effectively shaped elements of the mass unconscious creating a malleable dreamscape, the constructs prevail in the deep collective memory of the species but sciences used to shape and interact with it are still underdeveloped.

The modern day interent mirrors a concept of a worldwide web but uses different media for the same purpose.
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How was this lost exactly? And when was this ability lost?
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It was a gradual process of evolution. When man was closer to the animal kingdom mentally his mind was more attuned to the greater whole.

In medical and scientific terms humans were in a constant dreamstate, a significant amount of their mental faculties existed in the subconscious.

There was no logic, no creativity, no imagination but all knowledge was readily accessible. Scientific accomplishments were simply dreamed of and copied. Man did not invent anything as he had access to truth about all.

Eventually as the brains developed further this ability was weaker and weaker, it was replaced by mental processes such as imagination, creativity and logic in order to cope with the loss of conscious access to the core reality. 50.000 years ago humans were, mentally more or less the same as they are now.
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Was there an Internet in those civilizations?

Yes. The concept and technology are reverse engineered. The form was somewhat different but it functioned in the same manner and for the same purpose that our worldwide web does.


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Are there any examples of sites that would demonstrate the advanced civilizations' capabilities that are within the technical and financial reach (to investigate) of average citizens in the US and North America?
 Quoting: George B


No, there is nothing you could get to with a shovel.
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Thanks! Do you have any opinions on what the next significant technology, invention, advancement that will be back engineered from the ancient civilizations?
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There are multiple inventions, chemical laser weapons and low energy nuclear reactions known colloquialy as cold fuion. These are happening at this very time, what is developed depends on how the overall level of science progressed.

Sensory internet as well, the original worldwide web involved browsing with all human senses and immersing in the virtual reality, that's the direction the internet is heading.
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Thanks! Do you have any opinions on what the next significant technology, invention, advancement that will be back engineered from the ancient civilizations?
 Quoting: George B


There are multiple inventions, chemical laser weapons and low energy nuclear reactions known colloquialy as cold fuion. These are happening at this very time, what is developed depends on how the overall level of science progressed.

Sensory internet as well, the original worldwide web involved browsing with all human senses and immersing in the virtual reality, that's the direction the internet is heading.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


The connection to the sensory web, will it be physical (implanted receivers and transmitters) or telepathic in some way not understood today?
 Quoting: George B


We don't know.
 Quoting: Alterwelt

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3) How does the epic of Gilgamesh end?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68683062

We don't know but there are twenty three more tablets.
4) You said the internet is a found technology from ancient civilizations. Does this mean humans have been memeing and shitposting in these lost mythic civilizations? What was the most popular meme ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68683062

The ancient web was not like ours, one would connect on a neurological level to what, for lack of better word was a true virtual reality albeit it did not mirror ours.

5) Did these High Technological shitposting memeing civilizations play VIDEO GAMES?? Were there arcades where people played video games together as a community? Was there an online community?? Was there an online counter culture??
Was there image boards?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68683062

There was entertainment available, it's form is unknown ot us.
6) Tell us everything you know about the computers and internet of the high technological periods. NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68683062

The core of a computer was a purpose grown crystal of a complexity completely outside of our scientific scope of reference.

The frame itself was plastic like ours, the web was a virtual reality construct accessible through neural interface without the need for invasive devices. The virtual reality exists to this day and attempts are being made to access it. Contemporary hardware proves insufficient however.

The concept of an internet stems from that ancient worldwide system.
 Quoting: Alterwelt


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