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Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70851936  United States04/27/2016 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? 6 days of Creation is in the very Law of God. Exodus 20 : 8 - 11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. God rested and made the 7th day holy after 6 days of Creation. If Creation took Billions of years, than God rested Billions of years on the 7th day and commands us all to rest for Billions of years also? No. 6 literal days. Evolution is not only unbiblical, it is unscientific. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72095203  Finland04/27/2016 07:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? 6 days of Creation is in the very Law of God. Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh Exodus 20 : 8 - 11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. God rested and made the 7th day holy after 6 days of Creation. If Creation took Billions of years, than God rested Billions of years on the 7th day and commands us all to rest for Billions of years also? No. 6 literal days. Evolution is not only unbiblical, it is unscientific. It's obvious you completely missed OP's point. Not surprising at all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19119589  United Kingdom04/27/2016 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Simply, The Theory Of Evolution is the most plausible explanation we have. Christians have a belief that if they could disprove/discredit Darwin's successors it would automatically make religion the answer. This is erroneous, in my opinion. The implausibility of an omnipotent, omniscient, but invisible creator remains the same whether Evolution is correct or not. It's for this reason that atheists existed long before Darwin. Maybe it's because of the proliferation of the English language, but it seems to me that of the thousands of religions, Christianity has the biggest bee in it's bonnet on this. I have Sikh and Hindu acquaintances who don't seem to care at all about my non belief or indeed, the evolution argument. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70238898 United States04/27/2016 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! Christians aren't trying to debunk evolution. Evolution isn't true. It isn't up to Christians to spend all of their time disproving pseudo science. They simply deny it. People like you, who can't accept their denial, spend their time attempting to convince Christians that evolution is true and the Bible is not, since the Bible does not support that theory. You are correct, Christians do not depend on evolution being false in order to verify their faith. They just disagree with you and that happens to strengthen their faith. We know that there are no transitional fossils of any kind showing the change from one species to another. For example, there are no transitional fossils that show a hooved land animal split into various hooved land animals like cows and horses and deer. Nor are their millions of years worth of fossils. The problem is people like you accept evolution and go and seek evidence, which isn't proper. You toss out the things that disagree with it, and only heap up any weak possibility that supports your own faith. Christians considered evolution and found it wanting, so they reject it. There is no way the complexity of life could be simplified and be expected to survive long enough to evolve. Every system in a living cell relies on a complex structure that cannot be simplified and the cell still live. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69226067 United Kingdom04/27/2016 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Simply, The Theory Of Evolution is the most plausible explanation we have. Christians have a belief that if they could disprove/discredit Darwin's successors it would automatically make religion the answer. This is erroneous, in my opinion. The implausibility of an omnipotent, omniscient, but invisible creator remains the same whether Evolution is correct or not. It's for this reason that atheists existed long before Darwin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19119589 Maybe it's because of the proliferation of the English language, but it seems to me that of the thousands of religions, Christianity has the biggest bee in it's bonnet on this. I have Sikh and Hindu acquaintances who don't seem to care at all about my non belief or indeed, the evolution argument. You can't lump all Christian together in this. The Anglican and Catholic churches don't have a problem with evolution or the big bang. I am a Christian and think both are valid theories. It's a particular strain of American fundamentalist evangelical Christianity that holds to biblical literalism that gives us all these young Earth creationists and anti-evolution people. |
Catseye  User ID: 72084442  Dominican Republic04/27/2016 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? hard to create the earth in a day when the earth's rotation is what defines a day why take these literally and not search for deeper meanings? forming man from the dust from the ground sounds like a pretty good description of evolution to me science is just the study of the way God does things, why be in a hurry when you have eternity to play with? Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads. Thoughts create, mind them well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19119589 United Kingdom04/27/2016 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? 6 days of Creation is in the very Law of God. Quoting: Itiswhatitisheh Exodus 20 : 8 - 11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. God rested and made the 7th day holy after 6 days of Creation. If Creation took Billions of years, than God rested Billions of years on the 7th day and commands us all to rest for Billions of years also? No. 6 literal days. Evolution is not only unbiblical, it is unscientific. You are just quoting from a book that you have chosen to believe in. It has no credence for the followers of other faiths and non believers. Obviously, "God's law" is irrelevant to those who don't accept the existence of him. The point is, that the religious explanations for the existence of everything would not be made more likely by the refutation of Evolution. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70238898 United States04/27/2016 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? hard to create the earth in a day when the earth's rotation is what defines a day Quoting: Catseye why take these literally and not search for deeper meanings? forming man from the dust from the ground sounds like a pretty good description of evolution to me science is just the study of the way God does things, why be in a hurry when you have eternity to play with? The Bible never said the earth is rotating. It only says light was divided from darkness and the light was called day and the darkness was called night. A great light ruled the day and a lesser light ruled the night. Why not take things literally? Any time the Bible was telling a story or parable, it said, this is a parable. No, forming man from the dust of the ground is not a pretty good description of evolution. It does however explain why every physical molecule of us is made up of the stuff you can find in the dust. And also why a dead body left lying on the ground will eventually become dust again. You are exactly right. Science is the study of the way God does things. Which is why Christians make good scientists. They enjoy the categorization and understanding of creation without constantly being nagged about rather or not God exists. Every molecule, atom, cell, and celestial body observed is amazing and a christian closer to their God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69226067 United Kingdom04/27/2016 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! It's a good point well made. I always wondered what happens to these literalists when they discover enough about say, heliocentrism, the age of the Earth, big bang or evolution. Do they "throw the baby out with the bathwater" and abandon Christianity altogether. |
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| AQUABRAT User ID: 69278931 United States04/27/2016 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! I don't understand whyGod couldn't have just made the earth and then let Earth progress from there- all of the earth changes from molten rock, to oceans, land, microorganisms, life and the evolution that came thereafter.. All of it. And that's why we have science. hi |
| lowkeylifted User ID: 69980820 United States04/27/2016 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! Christian here, either way, god or evolution it still requires faith, faith in god, or faith in scientists and their words. I know somebody will rebuttle with "well the bible was written and edited by man" I only trust so much of the bible because of this reason. I let my personal relationship with god decide what is true and false. Humans are not known to be very trustworthy when it comes to telling the truth. I mean seriously look at the 1%. Also not to try and disprove evolution but wouldn't we see bones/fossiles of hybrids between evolution cycles? Don't even get me started on quantum physics and the double-slit experiment. THAT RIGHT THERE is absolute proof that we have a divine creator. Last Edited by JohnRedBeard on 04/27/2016 09:06 AM "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" MOLON LABE Red Karma Hall of Fame: "Merry Christmas leftist" "If you were any more stupid, you'd need watering twice a week." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19727911 United States04/27/2016 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! It's flat bro |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71296279 United States04/27/2016 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! I believe in God and Science, as I am sure most who believe in God do. What I think we have the problem with is Science saying God didn't create Earth, Humans, the Universe, etc... that goes against God. Now, on the same principal you have described, lets reverse that, what about scientist and people who believe in Science, They deny God, Why? Why cant they say ok, nothing we say makes sense on how the Earth and Sun are perfectly matched? how Humans actually began not from a tad pole or whatever bullshit they are spewing now days? Why don't they say on maybe there is a higher being, maybe not, but maybe that's what we are missing, that's why their crazy explanations make no sense. I believe God created everything, That he created everything so it can evolve. God knew evolution would happen, that's fine, but don't tell me that we evolved from a fish, or frog or whatever. don't tell me that a big bang put everything in perfect order to create life, that a big bang came from nothing, and created all these planets. Science is science, and Science should be looking to God for some answers. We may go by faith, but science makes up shit that even without any possible way for it to happen they will say its possible without explanation. We don't know how God became, Just like Science cant explain half of their theories. So its an equal field. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72104042  Tunisia04/27/2016 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? No way do < 6000 years suffice for the evolutionary laws to constitute even a bottle out of the source material. So Darwin needs billions of years which still aren't sufficient. But according to the Bible this here heaven & earth has less than 6000 years. Hence any Bible reader accepting Darwin is half-hearted and double tongued. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 65055996 United States04/27/2016 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? I've often heard you explaining that God doesn't reveal himself directly (e.g. a voice in the sky), because it would remove the need for faith he expects from his followers. He wants us to believe - to have faith. Good enough. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71955906 Yet, at the same time you hang the very same faith on the correctness or incorrectness of physical theories like evolution. You make it into an existential issue that needs to be fought against at any cost, because... what? It is as if your faith depends critically on debunking evolution (or the big bang) while at the same time it doesn't depend on seeing or hearing God directly. I see that as a contradiction. You don't need God's direct appearance, but suddenly you feel the need to debunk something mundane like science that somehow prevents you from believing in God. That's not faith. True faith would be believing in God and the work of Jesus regardless of what the scientists say. You don't have to believe in evolution, or you may believe in evolution, but it doesn't measure your faith in God and Jesus in any way. Ok, so your next argument is that if science and the Bible are in contradiction, there must be a way to prove the Bible right and science wrong. Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then. Think about that for a moment. Are you placing your faith in the Bible (the book), or God and Jesus? They are not the same thing. God is not the Bible. Jesus is not the Bible. The Bible may be divinely inspired, but it most definitely is not a divine book written and edited by God himself. Your faith in God should have nothing to do with friggin' dinosaurs and whether they are mentioned in the Bible or not. It's ridiculous and bad faith, and your salvation most certainly does not depend on the dinosaurs! The bible and science are not in contradiction in the slightest. Actually it's the exact opposite; they fit perfectly. Why? Because God is the master scientist of the universe. The issue really is what you call science. So called "mainstream" science has become a cult/religion with very strick dogma. You go to school and they teach you how to look at things and how to view the world then if you want to be part of the club and have a career you better toe the "party line". If you find any evidence that contradicts the party line you better bury it or your career is over. That's how it works plain and simple. That isn't science! There are hundreds of examples. I can prove it. Here's one of those hundreds. Poor guy thought he was a real scientist. Unfortunately he found evidence against the religious dogma (of evolution in this case). Hilariously he's told "you religion won't be allowed here", because they only allow their religion! [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com] These "scientists" can suck a fat dick with THEIR religious bullshit! Fire a guy and ruin his career because he made a scientific discovery! Typical assholes you call scientists. Evolution is the biggest fairy tale in the world! Why do Christians have a problem with it? Because you're teaching children they're evolved monkeys,nothing more than animals without any afterlife or worry of consequences for their behavior. Do you know what religion teaches the same thing? SATANISM!!! That's my problem. You're corrupting children with religion! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71284741 United States04/27/2016 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? 1) why does it matter to you? 2) don't the doubts of some encourage the continued process of scientific discovery to prove the Theory ( of evolution) beyond doubt? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 58316593 United States04/27/2016 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Christians don't have to deny out of place artifacts. [link to www.ancient-origins.net] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72108379 United States04/27/2016 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Evolution is RIDICULOUS. There are NO transitional life forms. NONE! If Darwin were alive today, even HE would say, "It's back to the drawing board." The planet SHOULD be SWIMMING in the relics of TRANSITIONAL LIFE FORMS. Darwin said his THEORY hinged on that, and he was confident that they would be discovered EVERYWHERE. They have been discovered NOWHERE. If Darwin were alive to examine the evidentiary support for evolution, he would say, SUM TING WONG! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 62903038 United States04/27/2016 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? "Because if the science is right, your Bible is wrong, where do you place your faith in then." There's your problem, right there. You don't place "faith" in science- a belief, trust or confidence in something that is not based on proof. Science requires proof, God, not so much. Science isn't a belief system and science isn't right or wrong, it's a method of proving or disproving a hypotheses using observation of repeatable sets of data. It's the Science! people that have gotten confused about theory and reality. Evolution can only be a theory because it isn't something that can be observed or repeated. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72098012 United States04/27/2016 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Part of evolution says life came from abiogenesis, a living cell coming from lifeless matter. A Christian can't ascribe to this part of evolution. Now, part of evolution is generaly defined as changes over time. My hand can get calloused, this is changes over time. A Christian may also believe in micro-evolution, small changes over time, for example a species of birds with their beak average beak size changing over time, perhaps to accomodate, the overabunance / lack of certain foods. Now even if there are major changes over time, does this mean God doesn't exist, or could show the innate power that God gave us, to adapt and change to various environments? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71284741 United States04/27/2016 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? No way do < 6000 years suffice for the evolutionary laws to constitute even a bottle out of the source material. So Darwin needs billions of years which still aren't sufficient. But according to the Bible this here heaven & earth has less than 6000 years. Hence any Bible reader accepting Darwin is half-hearted and double tongued. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72104042 What length of time was a year, or a day, before the universe and the earth existed? Do you think God measured time as 1 year = 365 days in the planet earth rotation around the sun before either existed? When was time even created much less measured by a sentient creator of universes? Get beyond being earthbound in thinking and interpreting Biblical history |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45526054 United States04/27/2016 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? Simply, The Theory Of Evolution is the most plausible explanation we have. Christians have a belief that if they could disprove/discredit Darwin's successors it would automatically make religion the answer. This is erroneous, in my opinion. The implausibility of an omnipotent, omniscient, but invisible creator remains the same whether Evolution is correct or not. It's for this reason that atheists existed long before Darwin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19119589 Maybe it's because of the proliferation of the English language, but it seems to me that of the thousands of religions, Christianity has the biggest bee in it's bonnet on this. I have Sikh and Hindu acquaintances who don't seem to care at all about my non belief or indeed, the evolution argument. You can't lump all Christian together in this. The Anglican and Catholic churches don't have a problem with evolution or the big bang. I am a Christian and think both are valid theories. It's a particular strain of American fundamentalist evangelical Christianity that holds to biblical literalism that gives us all these young Earth creationists and anti-evolution people. This! Go watch a movie called the Genesis Theory. They prove how the Bible SUPPORTS the Big Bang theory, and expansion. Time is RELATIVE to the viewer. God is OUTSIDE OF TIME. So a "day" to God is NOT the same as a day on Earth to us. A "day" to God is more like an entire period of time. The Mayans broke down the periods of time in their calendar, each period of time progressively gets shorter and shorter as the universe expands more and relative time seems to get faster. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21132687 United States04/27/2016 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? OP, Look, It is very simple. Your OP says Bible and science are in contradiction. THEY ARE NOT!! Stop saying they are! EVOLUTION ISNT SCIENCE! You know what is science?! 2nd law of thermodynamics!!!! What is that? Entropy! Everything decays!!! NOT EVOLVES!!! Evolution is not science but goes against PROVEN SCIENCE! IT takes MORE faith to believe that EVERYTHING in the universe operates with in entropy EXCEPT Evolution. You also havent read exodus closely.. With in Exodus are many scientific truths that havent been "discovered" until recently. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 45526054 United States04/27/2016 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Christians - why do you keeping trying to debunk evolution when it doesn't have anything to do with your faith and relationship with God? No way do < 6000 years suffice for the evolutionary laws to constitute even a bottle out of the source material. So Darwin needs billions of years which still aren't sufficient. But according to the Bible this here heaven & earth has less than 6000 years. Hence any Bible reader accepting Darwin is half-hearted and double tongued. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72104042 What length of time was a year, or a day, before the universe and the earth existed? Do you think God measured time as 1 year = 365 days in the planet earth rotation around the sun before either existed? When was time even created much less measured by a sentient creator of universes? Get beyond being earthbound in thinking and interpreting Biblical history You got it. This is what I was referring to. Time is RELATIVE to the viewer. And as God is OUTSIDE OF SPACE AND TIME, his viewpoint is different than ours! And I got the movie title wrong, it's the "Genesis Code" |
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