Is Trump a Draft Dodger? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18673979 United States 06/03/2016 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Vietnam was not our battle to fight. The whole thing was a messed up situation and I don't feel that Trump did anything wrong by deferring. Lots of people did for the same reasons. He was on the move in the business world and didn't want to go be a soldier. I think selective service is stupid really. For as much money that we waste on the military, I find it hard to imagine where selective service will ever again happen. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18811905 United States 06/03/2016 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we had a draft today to defend Israel or destroy Iran or North Korea I would sure as shit do anything I could to not go. Those are not worth any Americans lifes. If you are a vet, that signed up to be in the military, that is great and I thank you. But some of us do not want to do that, we want to do other things. As some pointed out above, and as many countries learned WW1, you can't just send everyone to war, you NEED normal people back in the country too. But I've strayed off topic. If you wanted to fight in Vietnam, that's fine, but it should not have been a draft because it was not an official war. If the government wants to send the kids to the slaughter house, they could at least have the decency to declare war. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48384909 United States 06/03/2016 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chicken shit putz. Up is down and down is up. John McCain returned home on a stretcher and refused to leave Vietnam without his men. Asswipes like you and that coward Donald Jackass Trump couldn't take 5 minutes of torture. You make me want to puke. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21660479 United States 06/03/2016 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Obama? Oh I forgot he sealed all of his Kenyan records and his Indonesian ones. Give me a fuckjng break. I'm god damned sick of this. I wasn't supporting him but the more thus shit goes on the more I'm going to hit back. Support liberals because I'm telling you we are fuckjng done with you and we want to know who the fuck you are |
Da Babba of DaBill User ID: 68290079 United States 06/03/2016 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Obama? Oh I forgot he sealed all of his Kenyan records and his Indonesian ones. Give me a fuckjng break. I'm god damned sick of this. I wasn't supporting him but the more thus shit goes on the more I'm going to hit back. Support liberals because I'm telling you we are fuckjng done with you and we want to know who the fuck you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21660479 Hey Billy, clarify your staement please. It's Headley. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48384909 United States 06/03/2016 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Obama? Oh I forgot he sealed all of his Kenyan records and his Indonesian ones. Give me a fuckjng break. I'm god damned sick of this. I wasn't supporting him but the more thus shit goes on the more I'm going to hit back. Support liberals because I'm telling you we are fuckjng done with you and we want to know who the fuck you are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21660479 |
U.P. Farmer User ID: 55278217 United States 06/03/2016 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't mind draft dodgers for political candidates as long as they do not advocate for a new war every six months. Quoting: AC 43108858 Those types - we call them Chicken hawks. And I detest them. I have a LONG list of Chicken hawks The ones I detest. Trump never even came to mind. Not on the list. Go do something else This is my take. I am a U.S.M.C. Vet - enlisted on my 17th Birthday. And, I was, in fact, involved in MK Ultra. But, I also, despise the Chicken Hawk Bullshit - Like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, etc. I was a Ron Paul guy, and Trump is somewhat similar to that, as far a Foreign Policy - NEVER be in a hurry to send in the Troops. I mean, damn, shouldn't we ask questions when the same people get rich off every fucking war?!?! THIS issue is one of the MAIN reasons the NeoCons won't accept Trump, but the American People do. They want Serial wars....especially in the Middle East (to defend Israel, of course). By the way, who the heck is attacking Israel? Let's worry about the U.S.A. for a change. Ike warned us about the Military Industrial Complex. You think he didn't know what he was talking about? J.F.K. was shot at High Noon in front of the Whole World (Mass Trauma Based Mind Control) because he only wanted to send in Special Ops Teams to Viet Nam, instead of a Full Scale War. Rockefellers/Rothchilds disagreed. Too much money to be made. I an a Trump Supporter 100%. I do respect him, even though he didn't serve in the Military. He has dome amazing things in life. A lot more than this tired ass ol' Lance Corporal/Farmer. I think he would be good at running the Country. I'd complain more, but I'm too busy being blessed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48384909 United States 06/03/2016 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So from 1964 to 1968 his record is saying 2-S which means collage deferment. Quoting: Nuke68 In 66 he also was classified as 1-A which means available for unrestricted military service but, he wasn't called up. He had the deferment anyway because he was in College. In 68 he had A-1 but didn't get called and 1-Y which means available only in emergencies such as a war (the US was never officially at war with Vietnam). I guess it changed to 1-Y because he was now older and out in the work force. In 72 he had 4-F, Not acceptable for military service for a medical reason. As Far as I see it he went to College from 64 to 68 to get an education. So what, a lot of men did. Getting an education made you exempt. In 68 he didn't get called and his status changed to 1-Y because he was working and older. By 1972 the war in Vietnam was winding down and the US was starting to get out. Had he been classed 1-A and called it's unlikely he would have gone to Vietnam anyway. |
Da Babba of DaBill User ID: 68290079 United States 06/03/2016 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't mind draft dodgers for political candidates as long as they do not advocate for a new war every six months. Quoting: AC 43108858 Those types - we call them Chicken hawks. And I detest them. I have a LONG list of Chicken hawks The ones I detest. Trump never even came to mind. Not on the list. Go do something else This is my take. I am a U.S.M.C. Vet - enlisted on my 17th Birthday. And, I was, in fact, involved in MK Ultra. But, I also, despise the Chicken Hawk Bullshit - Like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, etc. I was a Ron Paul guy, and Trump is somewhat similar to that, as far a Foreign Policy - NEVER be in a hurry to send in the Troops. I mean, damn, shouldn't we ask questions when the same people get rich off every fucking war?!?! THIS issue is one of the MAIN reasons the NeoCons won't accept Trump, but the American People do. They want Serial wars....especially in the Middle East (to defend Israel, of course). By the way, who the heck is attacking Israel? Let's worry about the U.S.A. for a change. Ike warned us about the Military Industrial Complex. You think he didn't know what he was talking about? J.F.K. was shot at High Noon in front of the Whole World (Mass Trauma Based Mind Control) because he only wanted to send in Special Ops Teams to Viet Nam, instead of a Full Scale War. Rockefellers/Rothchilds disagreed. Too much money to be made. I an a Trump Supporter 100%. I do respect him, even though he didn't serve in the Military. He has dome amazing things in life. A lot more than this tired ass ol' Lance Corporal/Farmer. I think he would be good at running the Country. Thank you for your service, and WTF, MK Ultra. If serious and not fuckin with us please tell us, what's that even like? It's Headley. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32126116 United States 06/03/2016 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chicken shit putz. Up is down and down is up. John McCain returned home on a stretcher and refused to leave Vietnam without his men. Asswipes like you and that coward Donald Jackass Trump couldn't take 5 minutes of torture. You make me want to puke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48384909 TOO BAD McCain wasnt a draft dodger cause he was a shitty pilot probably would have saved the tax payers som $! |
RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 06/04/2016 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He’s leading the Republican pack and loves to talk tough about ISIS, but it’s worth remembering that Donald Trump dodged the draft on five separate occasions and avoided military service at every opportunity. Quoting: train snip: [link to www.deathandtaxesmag.com] I'm at a quandary here. I'm a vet and also support Donald Trump, but would like to know the other side of this story. Is there any truth to him dodging the draft? did Hillary or Bill serve in the military ? I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Da Babba of DaBill User ID: 68290079 United States 06/04/2016 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He’s leading the Republican pack and loves to talk tough about ISIS, but it’s worth remembering that Donald Trump dodged the draft on five separate occasions and avoided military service at every opportunity. Quoting: train snip: [link to www.deathandtaxesmag.com] I'm at a quandary here. I'm a vet and also support Donald Trump, but would like to know the other side of this story. Is there any truth to him dodging the draft? did Hillary or Bill serve in the military ? No and no. Bill and Donald have a lot in common. Both dodged the draft and both love/hate Hillary. The connections just keep on comin. Last Edited by Headley Lamarr on 06/04/2016 12:28 AM It's Headley. |
RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 06/04/2016 12:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You chicken shit putz. Up is down and down is up. John McCain returned home on a stretcher and refused to leave Vietnam without his men. Asswipes like you and that coward Donald Jackass Trump couldn't take 5 minutes of torture. You make me want to puke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48384909 Why did the rest of the POW's call McCain "Songbird"? Why did McCain do his best to shut down looking for missing men left behind in VIetNam? What has McCain ever done for Veterans? I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 06/04/2016 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He’s leading the Republican pack and loves to talk tough about ISIS, but it’s worth remembering that Donald Trump dodged the draft on five separate occasions and avoided military service at every opportunity. Quoting: train snip: [link to www.deathandtaxesmag.com] I'm at a quandary here. I'm a vet and also support Donald Trump, but would like to know the other side of this story. Is there any truth to him dodging the draft? did Hillary or Bill serve in the military ? No and no. Bill and Donald have a lot in common. Both dodged the draft and both hate Hillary. The connections just keep on comin. When were you in the service and what did you do, Mr DaBill? I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
Da Babba of DaBill User ID: 68290079 United States 06/04/2016 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He’s leading the Republican pack and loves to talk tough about ISIS, but it’s worth remembering that Donald Trump dodged the draft on five separate occasions and avoided military service at every opportunity. Quoting: train snip: [link to www.deathandtaxesmag.com] I'm at a quandary here. I'm a vet and also support Donald Trump, but would like to know the other side of this story. Is there any truth to him dodging the draft? did Hillary or Bill serve in the military ? No and no. Bill and Donald have a lot in common. Both dodged the draft and both hate Hillary. The connections just keep on comin. When were you in the service and what did you do, Mr DaBill? Never. My dad who served taught me to not trust the military after his experience in 'Nam. It's Headley. |
TrugL User ID: 71221268 United States 06/04/2016 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sir was drafted in 65,101st Airborne Ft Campbell Kentucky,did my tour of duty in Nam,Trump should have went ,he would have learned loyality.compassion.and commitment on 254.00 a month.most guys in my unit were black ,Hispanic ,and/ poor white trash like my self,wewere called we went ,GOD bless theses who gave it there all,there life see so Trump,Clinton and others as can run for the presidency of a free count r y. |
Ziconic User ID: 63875496 United States 06/04/2016 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So from 1964 to 1968 his record is saying 2-S which means collage deferment. Quoting: Nuke68 In 66 he also was classified as 1-A which means available for unrestricted military service but, he wasn't called up. He had the deferment anyway because he was in College. In 68 he had A-1 but didn't get called and 1-Y which means available only in emergencies such as a war (the US was never officially at war with Vietnam). I guess it changed to 1-Y because he was now older and out in the work force. In 72 he had 4-F, Not acceptable for military service for a medical reason. As Far as I see it he went to College from 64 to 68 to get an education. So what, a lot of men did. Getting an education made you exempt. In 68 he didn't get called and his status changed to 1-Y because he was working and older. By 1972 the war in Vietnam was winding down and the US was starting to get out. Had he been classed 1-A and called it's unlikely he would have gone to Vietnam anyway. Thank you for setting it straight. He may not have had to serve back then, but he's ready to serve now. He's far more valuable to our country at this point in time. “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca You can lead the Democrats to knowledge, but you can't make them think. |
RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 06/04/2016 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No and no. Bill and Donald have a lot in common. Both dodged the draft and both hate Hillary. The connections just keep on comin. When were you in the service and what did you do, Mr DaBill? Never. My dad who served taught me to not trust the military after his experience in 'Nam. I spent most of 1967,1968,1969 and 1970 in the Navy, and my hat is off to anyone that managed to escape from that worthless war. I am 110% for Donald Trump. The thought of a psychopathic bitch like Hillary being president and Commander in Chief scares the shit out of me. Her record of "judgement" shows that she has very poor judgment as demonstrated by voting for the gulf war, and her handling of BenGazi. Hillary, like her fellow Chicagoan Obama, hate the US and her lifelong Marxist goal is to tear it down. You father was right. If we ever had another draft for the military, I will be volunteering to counsel people on how to avoid the draft. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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RodeHard Putawaywet User ID: 71345460 United States 06/04/2016 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sir was drafted in 65,101st Airborne Ft Campbell Kentucky,did my tour of duty in Nam,Trump should have went ,he would have learned loyality.compassion.and commitment on 254.00 a month.most guys in my unit were black ,Hispanic ,and/ poor white trash like my self,wewere called we went ,GOD bless theses who gave it there all,there life see so Trump,Clinton and others as can run for the presidency of a free count r y. Quoting: TrugL 71221268 Maybe gunfire of some type damaged your brain. If you had had a brain to start with, you would have joined some other branch before being drafted into the army. $254 a month? I never made that fucking much until maybe my last year. My first paycheck was 30 something. You are joking about this being a "free" country, aren't you? It was a worthless war that killed about 57,000 men my age. A complete and total injustice. The "domino" theory was complete bullshit. It was all about the money they made. I served my time, but I never deluded myself about the Righteousness of it. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72315845 United States 06/04/2016 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone rich dodged it with legal means and trickery. Those without money but with balls dodged it by fleeing or hiding. That leaves those who did not dodge and died for nothing. Congrats...what a service done for our masters. Our world is much better today since they agreed to fight some nonsense enemy vs fighting the real enemy - their own government. |
Da Babba of DaBill User ID: 68290079 United States 06/04/2016 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok. Simple yes or no question. If Trump becomes President and enters us into a war which then leads to the draft being reinstated. Would those of you of draft age try to avoid if u are drafted, and would those of you who have children of draft age do what you could to help your children avoid the draft ? It's Headley. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72253230 France 06/04/2016 01:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GOT MULTIPLE 2S DEFERMENTS FOR COLLEGE AND GRAD SCHOOL LIKE MANY OTHERS BUT THEN GOT A PHONY MEDICAL EXCUSE FOR BONE SPURS. WHEN ASKED, HE COULDN'T REMEMBER WHICH FOOT WAS HURT. FURTHER, HIS MEDICAL DEFERMENT DIDN'T PREVENT HIM FROM PLAYING SPORTS AT PENN AND THE DEFERMENT EXPIRED 1.5 YEARS BEFORE THE DRAFT LOTTERY ON DEC.1, 1969. HE RECEIVED A HIGH DRAFT NUMBER BUT THAT DIDN'T EXPUNGE HIS PHONY MEDICAL DEFERMENT. IN SHORT HE'S A DRAFT DODGER WHO TRASHED MCCAIN FOR GETTING SHOT DOWN ON A MISSION OVER VIETNAM AND WAS TORTURED ASA POW FOR 5 YEARS. DRAFT DODGER. HE GOT $1MIL FROM PAPA A WEALTHY NY REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER TO PARTY WITH AND START HIS OWN COMPANY WHILE OTHERS SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND 275 OF HIS CONTEMPORARIES DIED WEEKLY IN VIETNAM. DRAFT DODGER!!! HE DIDN'T EVEN JOIN THE GUARD OR RESERVES TO AVOID THE DRAFT. NOW, HE'S A "SUPER PATRIOT." DRAFT DODGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Ceela User ID: 69609812 United States 06/08/2016 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Draft Dodger is what they used to call someone who was drafted but refused to serve either by hiding or running to Canada. Trump did neither so officially, he was not a Draft Dodger. He was given deferments which were legal. My brother also had college deferment. After he graduated and his number came up, they did not take him because of poor eyesight. He was certainly not a rich "draft dodger". Trump did not hide or leave the country due to being drafted so the answer is NO! Ceela |
Terrebonne User ID: 72342518 United States 06/08/2016 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He’s leading the Republican pack and loves to talk tough about ISIS, but it’s worth remembering that Donald Trump dodged the draft on five separate occasions and avoided military service at every opportunity. Quoting: train snip: [link to www.deathandtaxesmag.com] I'm at a quandary here. I'm a vet and also support Donald Trump, but would like to know the other side of this story. Is there any truth to him dodging the draft? I'm a vet and support Trump. Do you have first hand knowledge of what was going on about the draft during the Vet Nam war? Trump applied for a student deferment and IMO it's not the same as a cowardly draft dodger. Trump knew his priorities and that was to complete his education and build a real-estate empire. You shouldn't be at quandary, it's a liberal hit piece. This draft dodging accusations comes right out the liberals playbook. . INFJ; We are the protectors. |