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THE KALERGI PLAN---In case you missed this info and are wondering what the hell is happening to EU and USA
There's been a couple of threads recently about the KALERGI PLAN, but I still see so many posts puzzled about what is happening in the EU, and in the US.

If you are wondering, please have a look at this link.

Thread: The Kalergi Plan

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Kalergi indicates that the residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.

Kalergi, his ideas are the guiding principles of the European Union. The belief that the peoples of Europe should be mixed with Africans and Asians, to destroy our identity and create a single mestizo race, is the basis of all community policies that aim to protect minorities. Not for humanitarian reasons, but because of the directives issued by the ruthless Regime that machinates the greatest genocide in history. The Coudenhove-Kalergi European Prize is awarded every two years to Europeans who have excelled in promoting this criminal plan. Among those awarded with such a prize are Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy.

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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

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The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Explains why Brexit was allowed too.
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Thread: The Kalergi plan is being executed now in Europe


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EU Intentionally Collapsing European Countries With Illegals
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Related threads from bottom of page. I post this info at least a couple of times a month on other websites, usually in MSM comments sections on their various articles.

People need to know this!
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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People MUST fight back in whatever way they can or they will be destroyed. This is not an idle statement. THEY have stated their intent to wipe you off the face of the earth and are proceeding with their plan.


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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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from OP of quoted thread:

This is scaring the hell outta me! I had NO idea!

[link to [link to www.freerepublic.com]

It is discussed here. I have shivers up my spine. This IS what is going on with the US and EU.

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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Kalergi’s Plan outlined by Gerd Honsik: “Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination, ... the elimination of nations by means of ethnic separatist movements or mass allogeneic (genetically dissimilar) immigration to create a multiethnic flock without quality, easily controllable by the ruling class. Kalergi characterized the multiethnic flock as cruel and unfaithful but maintained the elite must deliberately create them in order to achieve their own superiority: ‘Then the elite will first eliminate democracy – the rule of the people. Next, the elite will eliminate the people via miscegenation, thereby replacing the ruling white race with an easily controllable mestizo race.


Fuck me.

There it is.

quoting The Comedian
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Kalergi’s Plan outlined by Gerd Honsik: “Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination, ... the elimination of nations by means of ethnic separatist movements or mass allogeneic (genetically dissimilar) immigration to create a multiethnic flock without quality, easily controllable by the ruling class. Kalergi characterized the multiethnic flock as cruel and unfaithful but maintained the elite must deliberately create them in order to achieve their own superiority: ‘Then the elite will first eliminate democracy – the rule of the people. Next, the elite will eliminate the people via miscegenation, thereby replacing the ruling white race with an easily controllable mestizo race.


Fuck me.

There it is.

quoting The Comedian
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


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Helpful hint for those opposed to all this treasonous oppression:

Research and study tactics of the French Resistance aka French Marquis



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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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this current thread is very relevant:

Thread: Paul Weston : France Has Two Choices - Civil War or Submission

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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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That just won't happen.abduct
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Read about the "lightening of Haiti"


Except it's the other way around.
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from OP of quoted thread:

This is scaring the hell outta me! I had NO idea!

[link to [link to www.freerepublic.com]

It is discussed here. I have shivers up my spine. This IS what is going on with the US and EU.

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 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


NOTE: this article shows exactly why TPTB are scared shitless of Trump.

He won't let this continue in the US and will encourage European citizens to stop it.

Here's an excerpt:

The underlying truth behind the pc ‘diversity’- ‘multicultural’ -‘racist’ - ‘Islamophobia’ labels occasionally leaks out. In 1955, G. Brock Chisholm, a Kalergi disciple and former director of the World Health Organization, said: “... people must practice the limitation of births so as to create a single race in a new world that is dependent on a central authority.” Under the media’s dual pressure of misinformation and propaganda of humanitarianism, Europeans and the West are being induced and pressured to deny their origins as some kind of progressive humanitarian act. They are to believe that holding onto their origins and cultural identity is ‘racism’ except, of course, for the elite who will remain entrenched at the top.

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"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

[link to biblicalselfdefense.com]

[link to forum.1111ers.blog]


Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Kalergi indicates that the residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.

Kalergi, his ideas are the guiding principles of the European Union. The belief that the peoples of Europe should be mixed with Africans and Asians, to destroy our identity and create a single mestizo race, is the basis of all community policies that aim to protect minorities. Not for humanitarian reasons, but because of the directives issued by the ruthless Regime that machinates the greatest genocide in history. The Coudenhove-Kalergi European Prize is awarded every two years to Europeans who have excelled in promoting this criminal plan. Among those awarded with such a prize are Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy.

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The European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi has awarded Chancellor Angela Merkel the European Prize 2010. The prize is awarded every two years for exceptional contributions to the European unification process.

Accepting the award at the Federal Chancellery, Angela Merkel stressed the fact that it was an incentive to her to pursue her work for Europe. She pointed to the greater European integration that the common currency has brought. “We will of course fight to ensure that this currency is strong, that it can hold its own on international markets, and that it goes hand in hand with a high level of competitiveness in the European Union and with social cohesion and a clear foundation of shared values.”

Angela Merkel praised the consistent work of the European Society in fostering the European idea and the European unification process.
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It really is to exterminate the white race.

Anyone who doubts that need only look at what our govts are doing. THEY are the ones whopushed white guilt, and made laws and special privileges that ONLY non-whites can get.

They have pushed absolute 'white hatred' in universties and media, that have made other races despise whites.

They've pushed the agenda that white skin is ugly and unacceptable, and must be 'browned up' to look good. They've pushed this thru the entertainment industry FOR YEARS.

Better wake up white people. We are the ONLY race on the planet, that they are trying to exterminate.

Almost ALL countries are non-white, but WHITES are being forced to give up our nations. It's GENOCIDE!!! WAKE UP!!!
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Kalergi is very detailed when he tells us who will be the rulers of this new European mongrel race:

"Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It's not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews."

No wonder why the jewish-american bankers sponsored Kalerigi's project with tons of money.
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A colleague of mine was on about Kalergi a few weeks ago, I said it'll be all over GLP, so I logged on to show him and found nothing.

Better late than never, lol

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A colleague of mine was on about Kalergi a few weeks ago, I said it'll be all over GLP, so I logged on to show him and found nothing.

Better late than never, lol

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
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Hilliary and Obamas plan:

TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION !!!
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Maybe this explains some of the rabid behavior of Ted Cruz--his wife Heidi, is a CFR member--very active; she helped write parts of the TPP. You know some of her crap ideology is bound to have rubbed off on him. He DID vote to fast track that piece of garbage legislation.

more from [link to www.freerepublic.com]

In his book, Kissinger on the Couch (1975), Rear Admiral Chester Ward, Former Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy and CFR member for sixteen years, stated: “The CFR has as a goal submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government.

Once the ruling members of the CFR have decided the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of the CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.” And "In the entire CFR lexicon there is no term of revulsion carrying a meaning as deep as ‘America First.’” The very term now frequently being used by Mr. Trump, in conjunction with ‘Make America Great Again.’

Take note: The Council on Foreign Relations is an enemy.
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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Just horrorifying...it's coming, get ready.
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Explains why Brexit was allowed too.
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I'm not following. What do you mean?
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That just won't happen.abduct
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What won't happen?
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

[link to www.westcoasttruth.com]

The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

You cannot do all of the good the world needs, but the world needs all of the good you can do.
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This info comes from the 1800s

Thread: THIS IS WHY THE 3RD WORLD IS BEING SHOVED UP THE 1ST WORLD NATIONS ASS as described by Theosophuck William Judge: YOUR FORCED DE-EVOLUTION

In a nutshell it says in order for the new root race to take form the sub-races have to be forcibly evolved





For those who don't know the United Nations whole outlook and doctrine is saturated in theosophy, the most openly acknowledged being Alice bailey


Thread: If you want to understand where they want to take us then you need to know where or what it is they think they lost and why..ATLANTIS REBORN

Thread: demonizing white people to justify IMMIGRATION FLOODS OF 3RD WORLD WELFARE SUCKING NON-WHITES IS THE TOOL TO FUCKING DESTROY WESTERN CIVILIZATION



Ocean of theosophy in
Chapter 26

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There are seven races for each globe, but the total of forty-nine races only makes up seven great races, the special septennate of races on each globe or planetary center composing in reality one race of seven constituents or special peculiarities of function and power.

And as no complete race could be evolved in a moment on any globe, the slow, orderly processes of nature, which allow no jumps, must proceed by appropriate means. Hence sub-races have to be evolved one after the other before the perfect root race is formed, and then the root race sends off its offshoots while it is declining and preparing for the advent of the next great race.

As illustrating this, it is distinctly taught that on the Americas is to be evolved the new—sixth—race; and here all the races of the earth are now engaged in a great amalgamation from which will result a very highly developed sub-race, after which others will be
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evolved by similar processes until the new one is completed.

Between the end of any great race and the beginning of another there is a period of rest, so far as the globe is concerned, for then the stream of human Egos leaves it for another one of the chain in order to go on with further evolution of powers and faculties there. But when the last, the seventh, race has appeared and fully perfected itself, a great dissolution comes on, similar to that which I briefly described as preceding the birth of the earth's chain, and then the world disappears




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Thread: the reason the north & west and not the east are deemed obligated to take all the 3rd world welfare fucks


I have a feeling that the actual subhuman they "the enlightened satanic fucks" are truly talking about are the in fact the capitalist countries deemed selfish and the Christian countries deemed "exclusive" and spiritually ignorant and bigoted


Thread: the reason the north & west and not the east are deemed obligated to take all the 3rd world welfare fucks





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 Quoting: General Drunken Stumblefuck


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Re: THE KALERGI PLAN---In case you missed this info and are wondering what the hell is happening to EU and USA
He describes the plan and a low level understanding of why it is destined but the reality is far more evil and scary...and inevitable.