Emergency Heater fuels and heaters Primer--propane, kerosene, diesel--revised | |
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MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerosene is the distillate between gasoline and diesel. I don't know why it costs twice as much as either gasoline or diesel. Combustible hydrocarbon fuels are named according to the number of carbon atoms and the boiling points: Methane 1 (1 through 4 are gases at normal temperature and pressure) Ethane 2 Propane 3 Butane 4 and generally: Hexane and napthas--5->10 Gasoline 8->11 Kerosene and diesel 12->18 Oils-18-21 Most hydrocarbons of 20 or more carbon atoms are solids (grease) _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the precede on heat adjustment again Corrected Last Edited by MarPep on 12/20/2016 09:20 AM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerosene is the distillate between gasoline and diesel. I don't know why it costs twice as much as either gasoline or diesel. Quoting: MarPep Same as high octane fuel; cost is set by demand rather than manufacturing cost. So, besides jet fuel, where is the high demand? _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37044226 United States 12/19/2016 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerosene is the distillate between gasoline and diesel. I don't know why it costs twice as much as either gasoline or diesel. Quoting: MarPep Same as high octane fuel; cost is set by demand rather than manufacturing cost. So, besides jet fuel, where is the high demand? My son in law "informed me" that high octane fuel cost more because it was "refined more". I explained that oil is thicker than the crude from which it is refined, so actually high octane fuel(more dense/heavier than standard gasoline) ...is refined less. they charge more because people will pay it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4187563 United States 12/19/2016 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flueless LP fireplaces and heaters. You get all the heat. You can buy flueless logs at northern t@@ls and harbo fright. So far multi-fuel means pellets or corn. If thet were serious, it would be pellets, corn, LP and nat gas. Maybe even in a flueless configuration. |
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MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerosene is the distillate between gasoline and diesel. I don't know why it costs twice as much as either gasoline or diesel. Quoting: MarPep Same as high octane fuel; cost is set by demand rather than manufacturing cost. So, besides jet fuel, where is the high demand? My son in law "informed me" that high octane fuel cost more because it was "refined more". I explained that oil is thicker than the crude from which it is refined, so actually high octane fuel(more dense/heavier than standard gasoline) ...is refined less. they charge more because people will pay it I think octane refers to eight- carbon hydrocarbons-- specifically trimethylpentane, which was given a rating of 100 for resisting engine knock/pre-ignition, and was one of the lightest and most volatile of the gasoline portion of the distillates. heptane was given a zero rating on the "octane scale" Last Edited by MarPep on 12/21/2016 11:55 PM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73635236 Japan 12/19/2016 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's happening again. Quoting: MarPep Some combination of "zero" and "hours" and maybe a "parentheses" causes an automatic addition of "posting kiddie porn on twitter"--damnedest thing I've had happen on GLP--or maybe my computer has a virus/Trojan horse?? Zero/////hour was the anon guy discrediting pizzagate. Nevermind. Yours is valid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73635236 Japan 12/19/2016 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kerosene is the distillate between gasoline and diesel. I don't know why it costs twice as much as either gasoline or diesel. Quoting: MarPep Same as high octane fuel; cost is set by demand rather than manufacturing cost. So, besides jet fuel, where is the high demand? My son in law "informed me" that high octane fuel cost more because it was "refined more". I explained that oil is thicker than the crude from which it is refined, so actually high octane fuel(more dense/heavier than standard gasoline) ...is refined less. they charge more because people will pay it Higher octane fuel is just more resistant to pre ignition in an auto engine. Diesel/heating oil is the most energy dense option. That is why diesels used to get better mpg than gas, and gas better mpg than natural gas. Energy density is the amount of heat you get from burning a fuel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73635236 Japan 12/19/2016 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.eia.gov] Ethanol has a lesser energy density than gasoline. Hence why ethanol laced fuel results in lower MPG. The ethanol production is bad for the environment and the benefits will never outweigh the harm done. |
MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's happening again. Quoting: MarPep Some combination of "zero" and "hours" and maybe a "parentheses" causes an automatic addition of "posting kiddie porn on twitter"--damnedest thing I've had happen on GLP--or maybe my computer has a virus/Trojan horse?? Zero/////hour was the anon guy discrediting pizzagate. Nevermind. Yours is valid Thanks, I did a search on this and I'm sure you are correct--it was Trin getting rid of a nut rather than my post. Thanks again. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
MarPep (OP) User ID: 73627469 United States 12/19/2016 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump This thread really is for folks who might use info on emergency heaters and fuel. Ignore the stuff about "posting kiddie porn on twitter"--that was triggered by an automated order from the boss regarding a poster with a handle similar to "0" and "hours" mentioned together. Last Edited by MarPep on 12/19/2016 06:47 PM _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73075547 United States 12/19/2016 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Winter is coming. Quoting: MarPep Info on different fuels and heaters for those without natural gas or wood stoves. Propane Comes in cannisters of 1 lb, 20 lb, 30 lb, 50 lb and 100 lb. The empty (tare) weight of the containers/tanks is 18 pounds for the 20 lb and 70 lb for the 100 lb. A woman can lift a full (38 lb) 20 lb canister, but it takes two strong men to lift the full 100 lb tank (170 lb). Propane weighs 0.51 of water, so a 20 lb tank contains about 4.7 gallons of propane. A gallon of propane provides 90,000 BTU. A single tank-top heater is usually adjustable from 9000 to 15,000 BTU/hr. At low setting (9000), a gallon would last about 1(posting kiddie porn on twitter feeds , so a 20 lb tank could last almost 47 hour--but it won't last quite that long. Refills of 20 lb tanks costs about $16. Kerosene Kersosene can be purchased at Lowe's or other hardware for about $45 for 5 gallon can. If you can find a gas station that sells to put in your own container, it will cost $4-$5 per gallon. Newer kerosene heaters have a catalytic burner that burns hotter than the older models. The newer models like Dynaglo have a fiberglass wick. It can survive hotter temps than the older cotton wicks. Clean kerosene is necessary for these wicks--they will plug up with diesel as a fuel. They are not adjustable as far as heating--you adjust them to get the right amount of flame for clean burning. The heaters like Dynaglo can be purchased in 10.5 K BTU or 23 K BTU. The smaller heater will use 1.1 gallon (full tank) in about 8-1posting kiddie porn on twitter feeds posting kiddie porn on twitter feeds. Heat adjustment is by turning off or opening window if too hot. Larger heater will burn twice as much fuel. The tank should be burned to empty to help the wick stay cleaner Diesel The new ultra low sulfur diesel can be burned in the older kerosene heaters that have a cotton wick (not fiberglass). These are heaters like "Perfection" heaters. But additives are needed to keep the wick a bit cleaner--diesel fuel injector cleaner (pint per 100 gallons) and 91% isopropyl alcohol (pint per 5 gallons). This will help your wick stay clean. Also, with the old cotton wicks, do not burn them till empty--that will burn off 1/4 inch of wick and shorten wick life. Always fill and light your kerosene or diesel heater outside, and don't take inside till odor free and no smoke. Always leave a window cracked in small rooms where combustible fuels are being used. |
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