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Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."

 
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
The Sandy Hook emergency response was, in Connecticut State Police lieutenant David DelVecchia's OWN words, "...chaos. Ambulances could not enter the school grounds."

Ambulances could not enter the school grounds.

We figured that out, here, pretty early into the aftermath. Many shills (or at least personas) were hired to sell us the "no ambulances were needed" BS.

Why? Because, of course, the opposite was true, as any logical person immediately knew.

But ambulances could not enter the school grounds, because 1) initially they were not called and 2) by the time they WERE called, the road was blocked.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
5 stars for a real Sandy Hoax investigation!
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
5 stars for keeping the Malloy administration paying for disinfo from the "nothing happened" crowd.

I guess he likes throwing good money after bad ;)
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5 stars for keeping the Malloy administration paying for disinfo from the "nothing happened" crowd.

I guess he likes throwing good money after bad ;)
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This statement you made is the perfect example of "half truth is a whole lie". You lie. Malloy has nothing to do with "no one died". That's us logical people that know his bullshit along with yours. Malloy is paying for disinfo, this is true. Paying you too most likely......cointelpro
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
5 stars for keeping the Malloy administration paying for disinfo from the "nothing happened" crowd.

I guess he likes throwing good money after bad ;)
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This statement you made is the perfect example of "half truth is a whole lie". You lie. Malloy has nothing to do with "no one died". That's us logical people that know his bullshit along with yours. Malloy is paying for disinfo, this is true. Paying you too most likely......cointelpro
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Malloy absolutely has to do with the "nothing happened" bullshit, because he hired the PR firm who employs those sockpuppets.

If his sockpuppets confuse regular citizens into believing his sockpuppets, that doesn't absolve him from paying for the primary sockpuppets.

The "people" hanging out on this Sandy Hook topic are likely only one or two guys with persona software, some dedicated researchers who know better, and a smattering of confused citizens (most of whom are actually probably in the 1st category).
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03/31/2017 12:41 PM
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
It is clear, however, and somewhat amusing, that a new person has been hired to camp out on this sockpuppet; best guess is that the income is below that of Robert Riversong aka Brazil ;)
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Er, camp out on this topic.
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BUT they were given Riversong's blogpost to cite as a reference, lol.

Looks like the Sandy Hook folder has been handed down the food chain.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
5 stars for keeping the Malloy administration paying for disinfo from the "nothing happened" crowd.

I guess he likes throwing good money after bad ;)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71345883


This statement you made is the perfect example of "half truth is a whole lie". You lie. Malloy has nothing to do with "no one died". That's us logical people that know his bullshit along with yours. Malloy is paying for disinfo, this is true. Paying you too most likely......cointelpro
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Malloy absolutely has to do with the "nothing happened" bullshit, because he hired the PR firm who employs those sockpuppets.

If his sockpuppets confuse regular citizens into believing his sockpuppets, that doesn't absolve him from paying for the primary sockpuppets.

The "people" hanging out on this Sandy Hook topic are likely only one or two guys with persona software, some dedicated researchers who know better, and a smattering of confused citizens (most of whom are actually probably in the 1st category).
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If there is a "confused citizen" it is you. But I don't you're confused at all. You are intentional with your bullshit dialogue about medic's bad procedures. Believe me, if there was any truth to that.... many people would have their asses sued by now!

Crickets.....
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Their asses ARE being sued, for all practical purposes.

BUT - lawyers for the state are doing a good job of keeping needed info out of the hands of parents, and their initial strategy (however sickening) was brilliant:

Make it emotionally impossible to sue certain "heroes."

Notice who those heroes are; hate to say it, but the fact that their names surfaced immediately might be the biggest clue that they, specifically, are liable.

Think about it.

Chapman
Roig
Dahlmeyer

Ya know?

In reality, the first is very likely responsible for the death of a child. As in responsible with a capital R.

The second almost certainly lost children in her classroom (or from adjacent rooms) to gunfire by locking them out of the bathroom and telling them instead to "run."

The third represents some catastrophic error on the part of Newtown ambulances--this is not discussed much--something along the lines of, for example, leaving with only one adult patient.

There are far more, but these are some of the very prominent names.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Their asses ARE being sued, for all practical purposes.

BUT - lawyers for the state are doing a good job of keeping needed info out of the hands of parents, and their initial strategy (however sickening) was brilliant:

Make it emotionally impossible to sue certain "heroes."

Notice who those heroes are; hate to say it, but the fact that their names surfaced immediately might be the biggest clue that they, specifically, are liable.

Think about it.

Chapman
Roig
Dahlmeyer

Ya know?

In reality, the first is very likely responsible for the death of a child. As in responsible with a capital R.

The second almost certainly lost children in her classroom (or from adjacent rooms) to gunfire by locking them out of the bathroom and telling them instead to "run."

The third represents some catastrophic error on the part of Newtown ambulances--this is not discussed much--something along the lines of, for example, leaving with only one adult patient.

There are far more, but these are some of the very prominent names.
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blahh blahh blahh - bullshit! LOL

Can't overcome this one now can 'ya??! HahaHAHAAAA!!

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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Zephyr, your "half truth" bullshit is ALL bullshit!
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Jesse Lewis' family may or may not know which officer was responsible for his death; I mean, it's taken a LOT of work over four years to come to that conclusion.

Would Cario have told them that he saw WC do it? Can't be sure, but I kind of suspect not.

You'll notice that Jesse's mom makes sure to say publicly that he always wore camo, and that his body was found in the hallway. Doesn't take much effort to understand the subtext there. So, she is rebelling at least a little, and making it known she'll only go so far with the coverup story.

But given Chapman's other actions that day, and given her particular spirituality and outlook on life, it's doubtful she believes in pursuing charges against him.

That's only one, single death out of the entire 20 children; there are 19 others, almost every one of whose death justifies a wrongful death suit for varying reasons.

I notice that in the state's emergency services minutes post-Sandy Hook, in addition to a sudden focus on tourniquets, there is a strong focus on spine stabilization. This was, however, a topic even before Sandy Hook so hard to know how directly it applies.

But, certainly, moving a bunch of pediatric patients at a run with no stabilization is an instant red flag raiser.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
I notice that in the state's emergency services minutes post-Sandy Hook, in addition to a sudden focus on tourniquets, there is a strong focus on spine stabilization. This was, however, a topic even before Sandy Hook so hard to know how directly it applies.

But, certainly, moving a bunch of pediatric patients at a run with no stabilization is an instant red flag raiser.
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The state's emergency services committee meeting minutes. This includes the Trauma Committee, headed by Dr. Lenworth Jacobs.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
"The often quoted statistic that ASIs are over within seven minutes is misleading. In the majority of those incidents, including Newtown, CT, multiple uncertainties frequently delayed or impeded rescue and medical care. Uncertainties, which included determination of the shooter, potential presence of additional perpetrators, IEDs or other hazardous devices, extended much longer than seven minutes."

(The Evolution of EMS Response to Active Shooter Incidents, 2014)

[link to www.publicsafety.ohio.gov]
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Zephyr, your "half truth" bullshit is ALL bullshit!
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^^^^^

This.....
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Zephyr, your "half truth" bullshit is ALL bullshit!
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^^^^^

This.....
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Meh keep it up.

Facts is facts.

You won't outlast the truthseekers.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Speaking of evidence toward wrongful death suits, here we have, in the OP, the very man LEADING the investigation and saying, on record, that the emergency response was chaos.

"Chaos" is not a word that is misunderstood by a judge or jury.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
And at some point, I will find some poor sucker who got lured into shilling this topic but actually has a soul; somebody (I'm guessing it will be a woman, probably someone who's a mom herself) will break down and spill her story.

And that will be a good day. For her, for me, for everyone who believes in justice, and for the lives that may be saved when America realizes that the Sandy Hook emergency response is one of the greatest political coverups in recent American domestic history.
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Lenworth Jacobs (former director of trauma medicine at Hartford Hospital) is now speaking openly about the children having survivable wounds.

If his NDA can run out, surely a PR firm employee's can.

Somewhere out there in a murky room (or coffee shop? Who knows) are the citizens who literally collect an hourly wage to make the faux videos and use lots of punctuation marks (because, ya know, that apparently works on people--kind of sad).

But the thing they're trying to cover up the hardest is usually discernible as some kind of shadow thrown by their posts; and occasionally they get really mad and give into the "C" word. That's when we know we've gotten close.
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Like I have stated many times before. Get a shovel and camera. Dig up Pozners grave and reveal what is inside. Alex Jones missed his opportunity. He should have demanded an exhumation to challenge the charges against him. All it takes is a few brave people. We could start a Go Fund Me to pay for any legal costs. Come on. Do it.yoda
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
Like I have stated many times before. Get a shovel and camera. Dig up Pozners grave and reveal what is inside. Alex Jones missed his opportunity. He should have demanded an exhumation to challenge the charges against him. All it takes is a few brave people. We could start a Go Fund Me to pay for any legal costs. Come on. Do it.yoda
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^These PR firm personas exist to make real research (and GLP) look bad. Often from "Canada" - must be some kind of libel/legal loophole.

See also Thread: OK people, what the hell is up with Canada and Sandy Hook?
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Re: Sandy Hook: CSP Lt. DelVecchia: "Chaos...ambulances could not enter the school grounds."
"The STOP THE BLEED® program was initiated in response to the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. Dr. Jacobs recognized that if members of the public had been able to act as trained immediate responders, some of the victims could have been saved. He worked with a team of government and nongovernment individuals and groups to form the Hartford Consensus, which developed a national emergency response goal to improve victim survival following mass shootings and other intentional acts of mass violence by empowering trained bystanders to take lifesaving action."

More here, including how the paradigm shift in wound care has saved military lives:

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