The ONLY rational religious tenet is Karma.

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Yup.

"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- Nisargadatta

The only rational religious tenet is the 11th Commandment.

"Sit down and shut the fuck up".

'Karma', 'reap what you sow', whatever. Yep.

A man reaps what he sows. He might seem to get away with something for a long time but there are consequences for every action and inaction. If he sows to the spirit he reaps life and peace. If he sows to the flesh, he reaps corruption and death. One can look at the world and wonder why some are born poor or rich, blind or sighted, sick or healthy, to decent parents or to neglectful. Some say it is unfair, blame God, etc.

The average person lacks self control and sows the seeds of his future with every thought, word, and deed, scarcely taking a few seconds of thought to consider what the fruit of those things might be. Yet, when he has to eat the rewards of his labors, someone else is to blame. If someone else is responsible, then you are not in control of you, and if you are not in control of you, who or what is?

This is the most important moment of your life. Everything that happened prior to now, existed to create the conditions for you to be reading this post. If you can practice to be mindful, in every moment, to only do good, regardless of the temptation to act contrary to good, then the stream of things coming your way in life will only be good, as much as it depends upon you. You can start making that change, right now, but start with understanding what is good, not by your own estimation, but what your Creator says is good.

True, humans will subconsciously punish themselves as their misdeeds increase in number and severity. Ancient people were just observing human psychological nature when they came up with Karma.

People seem to be rewarded for bad behavior though, so it obviously doesn't apply to life on Earth.

That's why reincarnation is the other basic tenant. BTW, you'll become whoever you hate.

Then you die and find out differently.

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Yes, some are rewarded for years or even decades and then end up dying from an incredibly lengthy and painful condition.

As their corruption reaches a breaking point.

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Karma is the most "rational" and "logical" form of religion. It makes the most logical sense.

its irrational to state only what you say is rational.

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I disagree. I am Christian and believe DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO UNTO YOU is the same as karma. Same premise, meaning, and outcome.

For you hot heads that love to argue- you can agree or disagree when it comes to beliefs. No one actually knows till we pass on. Save your detached rage for some other topic.

Thread: ANY religious/historic tenet/belief should be examined in two ways for clarity.

It's a misconception that Karma is always about "reaping what you sow".
Things can be done upon you as well.

Karma is just a term for the effects of following or not following God's natural holy laws. If you do things against God's will and natural laws, you get bad karma in some way.

You change based upon what you do. You are the consequence of all the actions of your incarnations. You reincarnate when you have a child. From father to son passes the spirit.

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As far as chronic targeting goes, the more things done to hinder ones path, the more it will only strengthen ones resolve, mind and body, especially if one is very astute and self aware

I believe TPTW will reap what they have sown as turn around will be fair play.

I think karma is just a mechanism that is put in place to keep you suffering and therefore keeps you in this prison simulation.
Karma is not good or bad. It just is.
It keeps you off balance on the wheel of samsara (life). Karma happens when you act. And there must be an opposite and equal reaction to every action. So if you do good you create bad in the world. And the same goes for doing bad. It creates good. All action creates suffering.
Therefore the ultimate goal should not be to balance karma (for this is a futile effort). The goal should be to get off the wheel of samsara. To leave the prison.
You do this by letting go of karma. Way easier said than done. It is said one must trick themselves into leaving as just the act of thinking of leaving is action and will create karma.
Having karma leads to reincarnation and both are suffering.
So striving for balance is a worthy goal but you are still a slave in this prison of suffering until you just stop playing the game.

Last Edited by Nomad1974 on 11/23/2021 06:34 PM

"Karma", is merely the "law of unintended consequences + numbers game".

Shitty people will do shitty things, and depending how unlucky they are, after enough shitty actions enough people realize they are shitty people, or they do something shitty to the wrong person.

That is why I tell victims of narcissistic abuse to expose their abusers. That way other people know they are shitty people.

buddha taught
4 noble truths
8 noble paths and
12 intermittent links of causation
aka karma


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The doctrine of Karma only enthrones injustice: it leads to the most vicious and callous kind of externalism and impersonalism. The people of Karma spare their monkeys but destroy one another; Karma knows no grace, because Karma in essence knows no persons, only actions and consequences. The escape from Karma becomes Nirvana, the escape from life.

The law of God is not a blind, impersonal, and mechanically operative force. It is neither Karma nor fate. The law of God is the law of the absolute and loyally personal Creator whose law operates within the context of His love and hate, His grace towards His people and His wrath towards His enemies.

The jealousy of God is therefore the certain assurance of the infallibility of God's court of law. The evil which so easily escapes the courts of state cannot escape the judgment of God, which, both in time as well as beyond time, moves in terms of the total requirements of His law. The jealousy of God is the guarantee of justice. An impersonal justice in a world of persons means that evil, being personal, can escape the net of the law and reign in laughing triumph. But the jealous God prevents the triumph either of Canaan or an apostate Israel or church. Without a jealous, personal God, no justice is possible.

Its nonsensical. If bad things happen to good people would that not simply be karma owed? How you gonna say whoever dealt the bad thing gonna get bad karma? Its an illogical Mobius strip of bullshit.

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Partially true, to release karma is to stop doing by being your mind/ego by seeing through the illusion of mind good/bad and other phenomena.
Disassociation by "meditation" from karma.
In other words.
Be still , focus on I AM and observe it's origin.
Let it flow from your stillness.
This produces "clean" action/karma.
Action that is neither good(do gooders are evil) or bad (evident evil) but it is from GOD.
This is LOVE.
Acceptance of ALL, observance of ALL.

God or Self or Source or Aether DOES NOT HATE.
It is purest form of LOVE.
Light of Creation = LOVE gets tainted with karma (good/bad action)