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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
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Raise income tax 32% then lower the minimum wage to $7 hour ?

wtf
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All you minimum wage tards need to learn some fucking economics! $15/hr, your ass! Don't like making $7.00/hr.? Get a skill or an education where you can command $15/hr.
 Quoting: Little Red Hen


It's basic demand-side economics. Pay people more, they spend more into the local economy. Works better than trickle down to stimulate the local economy.

Walmart workers are on public assistance to make ends meet. That's your tax dollars and mine subsidizing a corporation that makes billions in profits.

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hesright

the elite are making millions of off our slave labor and the middle and poor people are slaving away for $7. how many people on glp are so damn ignorant that they can't see that we are ALL slaves to them regardless if we get paid 7 or 30 dollars an hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


As a business owner, I do not see it this way at all.

If someone does not like a minimum wage job, leave. No one is forcing it on anyone.

If someone is tired of earning minimum wage, learn a skill or trade which pays better.

With my business, the lowest we pay is $20 per hour, and that is for simple clerical work,
but they gotta have established, demonstrable skills or the are not hired.

People in this generation piss and moan about millionaires and billionaires, but do nothing
in their own lives to build their own fortunes. They expect that it should be GIVEN to them.

Horse shit.

A vast majority of people who have a high net worth have busted their asses, took risks,
started their own businesses and experienced significant failure along the way to achieving
what they have now.

Don't buy into the bullshit.

If you want a high net worth, ya gotta get out and hustle, ya gotta take risks, ya gotta hang
your ass on the line.

And here is a little secret to ponder:

A vast majority of new businesses FAIL. Bad ideas, bad timing, poor decisions, poor risk
evaluation, poor use of capital, etc..

But the difference between those people and the whiners is that most get up, dust themselves
off and try again.

Get busy.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


You do realize that this is basically the opposite of being a conspiracy theorist, right? You bow down willingly to your billionaire and millionaire overlords. We live in a developed nation and the majority can read and write and will do well at doing something so why not pay them a livable wage? Oh I forgot, we put all the money in the hands of rich ceo's and scam artists that tell us we should "work harder" like ants until we're too old and tired out and die. Fuck that and fuck people who agree with this.
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You stupid mother-fucker....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35718778


You must be super content with paying taxes to people who do work but make minimum wage and still have to be on welfare and gov assistance, stupid fuck. And very happy to pay imaginary taxes and debts invented by the elite overlords to keep you in line. All hail the million and billionaires KD
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Business owner, YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND, I cant afford to pay a decent salary so I want TAXPERS to subsidize my business and I will pay my workers a low enough wage so they can qualify for GOVT ASSISTANCE and YOU the TAX PAYER can SUBSIDISE My PROFIT..
GO OUT OF BUSINESS, this is FREE MARKET Capitalism not FASCISM where the GOVT pays yur goddam workers for you.
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


They have robots that perform surgeries now so if you think burger flippers are the only ones being replaced, you're in for a rude awakening.
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As a business owner, I do not see it this way at all.

If someone does not like a minimum wage job, leave. No one is forcing it on anyone.

If someone is tired of earning minimum wage, learn a skill or trade which pays better.

With my business, the lowest we pay is $20 per hour, and that is for simple clerical work,
but they gotta have established, demonstrable skills or the are not hired.

People in this generation piss and moan about millionaires and billionaires, but do nothing
in their own lives to build their own fortunes. They expect that it should be GIVEN to them.

Horse shit.

A vast majority of people who have a high net worth have busted their asses, took risks,
started their own businesses and experienced significant failure along the way to achieving
what they have now.

Don't buy into the bullshit.

If you want a high net worth, ya gotta get out and hustle, ya gotta take risks, ya gotta hang
your ass on the line.

And here is a little secret to ponder:

A vast majority of new businesses FAIL. Bad ideas, bad timing, poor decisions, poor risk
evaluation, poor use of capital, etc..

But the difference between those people and the whiners is that most get up, dust themselves
off and try again.

Get busy.
 Quoting: Gelatinous Mass


You do realize that this is basically the opposite of being a conspiracy theorist, right? You bow down willingly to your billionaire and millionaire overlords. We live in a developed nation and the majority can read and write and will do well at doing something so why not pay them a livable wage? Oh I forgot, we put all the money in the hands of rich ceo's and scam artists that tell us we should "work harder" like ants until we're too old and tired out and die. Fuck that and fuck people who agree with this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


You stupid mother-fucker....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35718778


You must be super content with paying taxes to people who do work but make minimum wage and still have to be on welfare and gov assistance, stupid fuck. And very happy to pay imaginary taxes and debts invented by the elite overlords to keep you in line. All hail the million and billionaires KD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


Read my other posts and figure out why you are a fucking retard.
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This is going to backfire horribly.....if a city ever wanted to trigger violence and anarchy on its streets.....well it just did.
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Stay in school kids
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Business owner, YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND, I cant afford to pay a decent salary so I want TAXPERS to subsidize my business and I will pay my workers a low enough wage so they can qualify for GOVT ASSISTANCE and YOU the TAX PAYER can SUBSIDISE My PROFIT..
GO OUT OF BUSINESS, this is FREE MARKET Capitalism not FASCISM where the GOVT pays yur goddam workers for you.
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hesright

They are in denial.
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Great job governor! clappa
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Yea he's obviously friends with some high level corporate executives who don't want any pesky laws infringing on their right to pay peanuts to their employees, while lining their pockets with extra money in the process.

I wonder how much this governor was given for his support against raising minimum wage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73522013


You retards will never get it. High minimum wage won't hurt a big corporation, they can move their operations anywhere in the world to avoid you useless eaters. High minimum wages only put small businesses out of business. You can't fucking fix your worthlessness by demanding more money for picking your fucking nose all day. Get a skill or kill yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35718778


And that is what's happening in St. Louis. Small businesses have adjusted their business days and hours to accommodate the new cost of labor. The new hours push customers to big businesses like Lowes or Walmart and hurts the small businesses more and has lead to layoffs and more decreased hours.


Aside from that, stop pretending like there are so many families out there living on just minimum wage or that tax payers are subsidizing those employees' families. Very few jobs are minimum wage and even fewer are staffed by single income adults earning money for a family.
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How can anyone survive in ten per hour let alone 7? I make a little over $13/hour and my rent is $800/month and I barely make it some weeks. I have a good savings to fall back on but still.....not many do these days.
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It's the suck to be sure, but you have to come up with an idea, product or service that is worth something.
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This is going to backfire horribly.....if a city ever wanted to trigger violence and anarchy on its streets.....well it just did.
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Hopefully, they will round them up and send them to Hillary's Fun Camps, this time. Fewer useless eaters in the market will cause wages to rise. Then we can all be happy.
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


They have robots that perform surgeries now so if you think burger flippers are the only ones being replaced, you're in for a rude awakening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


Yes. Medical and legal, of all things, are totally under the gun. Formulaic and replaceable by learning AI systems.

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Business owner, YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND, I cant afford to pay a decent salary so I want TAXPERS to subsidize my business and I will pay my workers a low enough wage so they can qualify for GOVT ASSISTANCE and YOU the TAX PAYER can SUBSIDISE My PROFIT..
GO OUT OF BUSINESS, this is FREE MARKET Capitalism not FASCISM where the GOVT pays yur goddam workers for you.
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No education and no marketable skills is worth $7.70 per hour. What don't you understand?
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Business owner, YOU GUYS DONT UNDERSTAND, I cant afford to pay a decent salary so I want TAXPERS to subsidize my business and I will pay my workers a low enough wage so they can qualify for GOVT ASSISTANCE and YOU the TAX PAYER can SUBSIDISE My PROFIT..
GO OUT OF BUSINESS, this is FREE MARKET Capitalism not FASCISM where the GOVT pays yur goddam workers for you.
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No education and no marketable skills is worth $7.70 per hour. What don't you understand?
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What would be the point? You said medical field will be overtaken by AI and so will burger flipping and everything in between so who will really lose here? Them or us? No point in getting an education unless you're going to build said robots.
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


They have robots that perform surgeries now so if you think burger flippers are the only ones being replaced, you're in for a rude awakening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


This^^ is what so many can't seem to understand.

Mock the minimum wage earners all you want. tell them how they can be so easily replaced by robots.

Everyone's day is coming because capitalists prefer not to pay wages if they can get out of it.

What I can't wait to see, when enough are replaced by machines, is how much those robots are going to spend at the businesses that decided to get rid of human labor and their consumer dollars.
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How about ELIMINATE the governments involvement altogether.
They HAVE NO CLUE (until now with TRUMP) to run a SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS.
They just use it as a reelection TOOL.
They are operating at a $20 Trillion LOSS.
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Fukin guy doesnt realize a shit ton of companys ONLY offer min wage cause they can get away with it.
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
 Quoting: Big Duke6


They have robots that perform surgeries now so if you think burger flippers are the only ones being replaced, you're in for a rude awakening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74675541


This^^ is what so many can't seem to understand.

Mock the minimum wage earners all you want. tell them how they can be so easily replaced by robots.

Everyone's day is coming because capitalists prefer not to pay wages if they can get out of it.

What I can't wait to see, when enough are replaced by machines, is how much those robots are going to spend at the businesses that decided to get rid of human labor and their consumer dollars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74308797


That's why the globalists are pushing this Socialism bullshit so hard. They are trying to make it where NOBODY has a job and everyone gets a basic income. Then, if you don't obey what they want you to do, they just cut off that income and you starve to death, or get shot for stealing. Then total control will be finally realized. Instead of fighting for more money, and putting the small businesses out of business, these fucking idiots should be fighting against the robots. But noooooo, they love the worthless liberals that own the corporations that are making all of this happen.
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It is surprising that they are lowering it...once it was in, I never thought the corp sponsors would let it go down again until all small business was out of bidness. Big corps love to get the wage just high enough to put small business out - the labor costs are lower relatively for them so they will always win and then gain market share on top.
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If all the minimum wagers burn St.Louis to the ground, I guess you rich pcs of shit will finally figure out the ole "let 'em eat cake " thinking will get You killed.

If you are an employer, and you can't afford to pay a decent wage, you shouldn't be in business. Period!
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
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You're out of your mind.

Minimum wage laws crucify the very people they intend to help with higher prices and more layoffs.

There should be NO minimum wage laws Period.
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If all the minimum wagers burn St.Louis to the ground, I guess you rich pcs of shit will finally figure out the ole "let 'em eat cake " thinking will get You killed.

If you are an employer, and you can't afford to pay a decent wage, you shouldn't be in business. Period!
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So you prefer the useless eaters to have NO income, instead of SOME income? That's so virtuous of you! You fucking retard....
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In a world with multi billionaires and high prices goods but all they can pay is 7 dollars an hour
 Quoting: NRVNAFAN


Labour is worth $0.10 per hour less than a robot, AI or automation that can accomplish the same task.

If you can't comprehend that, move to Venezuela to understand how command economies don't work.
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Agreed, and change your fucking wacky avatar bud. You look like Steve Buscemi with an air hose up your ass. (And I love Steve Buscemi.)
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Great job governor! clappa
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Yea he's obviously friends with some high level corporate executives who don't want any pesky laws infringing on their right to pay peanuts to their employees, while lining their pockets with extra money in the process.

I wonder how much this governor was given for his support against raising minimum wage?
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You retards will never get it. High minimum wage won't hurt a big corporation, they can move their operations anywhere in the world to avoid you useless eaters. High minimum wages only put small businesses out of business. You can't fucking fix your worthlessness by demanding more money for picking your fucking nose all day. Get a skill or kill yourself.
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And we see your "skill" is being a corporate shill and post online all day.
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While you may not like what was being said above, they are not wrong.

For example, think of the fast food industry, the headlines recently have been replete with stories about McDonald's and the like moving to more automation. When the wages of those employees are artificially increased, the companies you are hurting are not the big corporations. The large corporate operations of the world have the capital and resources to develop self serve kiosks, and thereby removing the expensive cashiers from the equation. Next up will be the actual food prep.

A small Mom and Pop deli or sub shop who competes with McDonald's does not have the same capacity and will be saddled with costs that force them to be less competitive.

Additionally, those people that would have been earning a wage, developing a skill, (if they apply themselves) and beginning to learn how to exist in society will now be without that job. Those unskilled entry level jobs which were supposed to be filled by kids who could learn what it means to hold a job and have responsibility will be removed at a quicker pace the higher the minimum wage goes.

That's not to say that there shouldn't look for a way to re-balance the scales with respect to the disparity in earnings from the top to bottom of the scale. Unfortunately, the minimum wage solution only hurts the people at the bottom, and in a variety of ways. It's a very lazy solution and always latched onto by the politically expedient. Those are the people you should worry about. The ones who know what kind of circus you like with your bread and seek to give it to the cheering crowds.

Were I a crazy eyed conspiracy theorist, I might think that over-reach with the min. wage increases could actually be the plan of the elite class themselves. This would give them political cover for reduction of staff due to cost cutting through automation. They could point to all the small business going under and say we have to reduce staff or we will suffer the same fate. All the while the pool of competitors shrinks while they reduce labor cost dramatically. That would be something akin to nirvana for a CEO. Better pricing power and lower production cost at the same time.

I don't know about you but it might make me wonder. If I was crazy eyed and all.
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If all the minimum wagers burn St.Louis to the ground, I guess you rich pcs of shit will finally figure out the ole "let 'em eat cake " thinking will get You killed.

If you are an employer, and you can't afford to pay a decent wage, you shouldn't be in business. Period!
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hesright
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If all the minimum wagers burn St.Louis to the ground, I guess you rich pcs of shit will finally figure out the ole "let 'em eat cake " thinking will get You killed.

If you are an employer, and you can't afford to pay a decent wage, you shouldn't be in business. Period!
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hesright
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No, he's retarded, you know. Just like you.
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There is no point in lowering the minimum wage back down to $7.70.

If the Governor were truly principled, then he would abolish the minimum wage altogether.

This is just a cheap way to score political points.

In a PRIVATELY owned company, wages and salaries can be kept private. This is up to the discretion of the owner whether or not to disclose.

However, in a PUBLICLY TRADED company, all wages and salaries should be disclosed. Salaries and total compensation for key individuals should be subject to vote by the shareholders.

Problem solved.
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Is it any wonder riots are going on?

Slave wages are called living wages and we all know it requires all work and no sleep to work the multiple jobs needed to cover even the basic standards these days.





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