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Five Star Bandit
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Until you have to balance a checkbook, make ends meet, and live in the real world of holding down a job, you don't have a frame-of-reference fit for determining the leadership of the United States of America.

Exemptions? Anyone who can prove 4+ years of gainful employment and home rental/ownership.

Who'm I missing?
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I gave you one star OP.

But at least I'll tell you why.

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Voting isn't about building a life for yourself or your progeny. It's about implied consent to the laws of the land and the political landscape of that land.

No one cares if you think your life is good and your children have a future. It's all about control over the economy.

That's what it (politics) has always been about.

Money and power.

Children are the future because they'll control the political landscape of the future because they'll live after you're dead.

No one cares how the Dinosaurs voted, because they got wiped out by an asteroid.

Eventually 18 year olds will be 30 or even 40 and they'll vote for whoever they want, even Chelsea Clinton.

This is why Communism/Socialism will win over Conservatism. Because young people will eventually vote for it after older people are dead.

That is why conservatism is the walking dead! Because communists have targeted and brainwashed your children. You were too busy working to worry about how your children were raised and that's why you have libtards with safe spaces wearing diaper pins as though they were battle medals.

The elite know their families are their strongest assets in building a legacy.

The media constantly bombards school children with leftwing ideals and porn.

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Rather than complain about the ideals of young people online and try to curb their voice, thus inspiring them to rebel against your ideals. You should talk to them about why they think what they think and change their mind.

From the sounds of it you should stop trying use government force against other people and start using your persuasion.

Because if you can't, then you will fail.
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Five Star Bandit  (OP)
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I gave you one star OP.

But at least I'll tell you why.

---------------

Voting isn't about building a life for yourself or your progeny. It's about implied consent to the laws of the land and the political landscape of that land.

No one cares if you think your life is good and your children have a future. It's all about control over the economy.

That's what it (politics) has always been about.

Money and power.

Children are the future because they'll control the political landscape of the future because they'll live after you're dead.

No one cares how the Dinosaurs voted, because they got wiped out by an asteroid.

Eventually 18 year olds will be 30 or even 40 and they'll vote for whoever they want, even Chelsea Clinton.

This is why Communism/Socialism will win over Conservatism. Because young people will eventually vote for it after older people are dead.

That is why conservatism is the walking dead! Because communists have targeted and brainwashed your children. You were too busy working to worry about how your children were raised and that's why you have libtards with safe spaces wearing diaper pins as though they were battle medals.

The elite know their families are their strongest assets in building a legacy.

The media constantly bombards school children with leftwing ideals and porn.

===========

Rather than complain about the ideals of young people online and try to curb their voice, thus inspiring them to rebel against your ideals. You should talk to them about why they think what they think and change their mind.

From the sounds of it you should stop trying use government force against other people and start using your persuasion.

Because if you can't, then you will fail.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Hmm, valid argument... but I think we're all aware of what 'voting' is for.

To be clear though, I wasn't 'complaining about the ideals of young people online'. I was putting forth a counter to minds stolen, to suggest that people who vote be introduced to real life where the ideals imparted them don't hold water, to the realization of that.

It's too late for re-programming I'm afraid. But making them face reality first.... not too late for that.

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Old enough to defend the right to vote is old enough to vote.
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Old enough to defend the right to vote is old enough to vote.
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And yes, I see this argument as well... perhaps as the other poster pointed out, it's too extreme.
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I know a generation was under a criminal plan of mind control and subversion. No vote until re education
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I gave you one star OP.

But at least I'll tell you why.

===========

Rather than complain about the ideals of young people online and try to curb their voice, thus inspiring them to rebel against your ideals. You should talk to them about why they think what they think and change their mind.

From the sounds of it you should stop trying use government force against other people and start using your persuasion.

Because if you can't, then you will fail.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Hmm, valid argument... but I think we're all aware of what 'voting' is for.

To be clear though, I wasn't 'complaining about the ideals of young people online'. I was putting forth a counter to minds stolen, to suggest that people who vote be introduced to real life where the ideals imparted them don't hold water, to the realization of that.

It's too late for re-programming I'm afraid. But making them face reality first.... not too late for that.
 Quoting: Five Star Bandit


It's never too late. A reality where they want their government to give them free stuff all their life paid for by their parents is precisely the reality they want and one they'll vote for.

Most parents want to give their children the world and I think you do too. Thus voting for the reality where your government gives your children a life where they can live in peace powered by a big government sounds appealing to most.

It is up to you to retort that reality.
NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts
It's all bull!
Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
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I gave you one star OP.

But at least I'll tell you why.

===========

Rather than complain about the ideals of young people online and try to curb their voice, thus inspiring them to rebel against your ideals. You should talk to them about why they think what they think and change their mind.

From the sounds of it you should stop trying use government force against other people and start using your persuasion.

Because if you can't, then you will fail.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Hmm, valid argument... but I think we're all aware of what 'voting' is for.

To be clear though, I wasn't 'complaining about the ideals of young people online'. I was putting forth a counter to minds stolen, to suggest that people who vote be introduced to real life where the ideals imparted them don't hold water, to the realization of that.

It's too late for re-programming I'm afraid. But making them face reality first.... not too late for that.
 Quoting: Five Star Bandit


It's never too late. A reality where they want their government to give them free stuff all their life paid for by their parents is precisely the reality they want and one they'll vote for.

Most parents want to give their children the world and I think you do too. Thus voting for the reality where your government gives your children a life where they can live in peace powered by a big government sounds appealing to most.

It is up to you to retort that reality.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Well said and indeed, I have faith that my kids will vote well and with a proper heart when they're old enough for such. But there's a giant looming in the form of a communist controlled media, public school system, and virtually every other form of media that flashes before their eyes.

Personal responsibility isn't an 'easy sell' even if the evening news was helping.

Last Edited by Subway Prophets on 03/24/2018 04:12 AM
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OK let anyone vote. Let them vote multiple times. Limit the size and scope of government so much that it doesn't matter who votes for whom.
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Too arbitrary. I'd prefer a basic competency test.
Prove that you understand our constitutional republic, understand the idea of a limited government of enumerated powers and that you have a basic, even superficial understanding of current events.

When you can prove that, you can vote. Such a competency test would eliminate 95% of democratic voters.
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I gave you one star OP.

But at least I'll tell you why.

===========

Rather than complain about the ideals of young people online and try to curb their voice, thus inspiring them to rebel against your ideals. You should talk to them about why they think what they think and change their mind.

From the sounds of it you should stop trying use government force against other people and start using your persuasion.

Because if you can't, then you will fail.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Hmm, valid argument... but I think we're all aware of what 'voting' is for.

To be clear though, I wasn't 'complaining about the ideals of young people online'. I was putting forth a counter to minds stolen, to suggest that people who vote be introduced to real life where the ideals imparted them don't hold water, to the realization of that.

It's too late for re-programming I'm afraid. But making them face reality first.... not too late for that.
 Quoting: Five Star Bandit


It's never too late. A reality where they want their government to give them free stuff all their life paid for by their parents is precisely the reality they want and one they'll vote for.

Most parents want to give their children the world and I think you do too. Thus voting for the reality where your government gives your children a life where they can live in peace powered by a big government sounds appealing to most.

It is up to you to retort that reality.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname


Well said and indeed, I have faith that my kids will vote well and with a proper heart when they're old enough for such. But there's a giant looming in the form of a communist controlled media, public school system, and virtually every other form of media that flashes before their eyes.

Personal responsibility isn't an 'easy sell' even if the evening news was helping.
 Quoting: Five Star Bandit


If proper parenting was easy it wouldn't be rewarding.

It is the trials which make our character into whatever it becomes. Thus teaching your kids to thrive on adversity as challenges to overcome, will be what shapes them into what you hope they'll be one day.

Good luck OP.
NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts
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Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli
Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten.
If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it.
You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests.
It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation.
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The age of voting shouldn't cause concern because governments shouldn't exist.
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Lower it to 16.
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The age of voting shouldn't cause concern because governments shouldn't exist.
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Like I said. Everyone is just fighting over control of the man with the gun. If you thought children voting would give your side control, you'd want children to vote. This isn't about equity or competence, it's about selfishness and bullying.
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Lower it to 16.
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Well if you do that you must strt much earlier!

Hey son, when you are a good boy, and we reward you for some extra toys, do you want to keep those toys? Do you like that?

"yes dad"

What if I told you someone was going to come in and take your toys if you have too many and give them to other people?

"no I wouldnt like that, you told me if I was a good boy.."
'
OK son, every toy I get you I going to say "if people vote democrat, they are coming to take away your toys!" Tell your friend that only republicans will let you keep what you get for being good boys and girls

START EARLY!!!!
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The age of voting shouldn't cause concern because governments shouldn't exist.
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Like I said. Everyone is just fighting over control of the man with the gun. If you thought children voting would give your side control, you'd want children to vote. This isn't about equity or competence, it's about selfishness and bullying.
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All laws are just an opinion with a gun.
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
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Presidents are selected, NOT elected. If you don’t already know this fact, you’re still a child.
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Voting? laugh
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epiclol

OP is a little slow... So are about 80% of the ‘tards here on GLP.
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Voting should be allowed for only folks with skin in the game. If you are not a land owner then you ability to vote ought to be restricted. Why should freeloaders be allowed to cast a vote to increase taxes on producers? That is just the same as stealing. And I do not see 21 as to young an age to vote. Eighteen year olds do not have the ability to own land nor have the emotional capability to cast a thoughtful vote.

But since the Democrats want to have every criminal, illegal, and 16Yo cast a vote, then that will be what the PTB want to happen.

If Trump cannot right this ship, then we are all doomed to the ashbin of history because of Liberal arrogance and incompetence.
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
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Agree with this one, but not the other two.
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
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Agree with this one, but not the other two.
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Research "real estate".
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We just need voter aptitude tests.

If you can pass the test by correctly answering a few questions about the various candidates, you’ve proved you’re an informed and qualified voter and you then get your voter card. Simple.

To apply for the test you provide your birth certificate or other proof of citizenship.

Hear me out further...

There will be those who are in comas, are brain dead, etc etc who are otherwise incapable of taking the test and actually casting their vote. Technically they have the right to vote as is today, but the reality is if they cannot cast their vote, or in some cases even speak or understand any political concept, who is actually doing their vote?

Someone who technically gets to vote twice! Think about it, if someone is retarded and cannot function and someone has to vote for them, well, that’s two votes since the caregiver or whoever is really the one choosing.

Voter aptitude test! Can’t pass don’t get to vote.

“But OP, everyone has the right to vote!!”
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it’s moot, voting doesn’t work for us
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76391371



Agree with this one, but not the other two.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield

Research "real estate".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76391371




I know what real estate is but I don't know how it would change anything by disallowing women to own it?
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We need to take away the women vote along with women's right to own real estate and in divorce they return to their original family with nothing more than what they brought in marriage.

The man is the "good steward" for the family's assets.

The West is trying to revert from a patriarchal society (human) to a matriarchal society (ape). The transition is impossible. Crash and burn is the only outcome in such an endeavor.

Which is precisely what is happening.

Return women to their rightful place. As well, outlaw homosexuals and the celibate Priesthood.
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76391371



Agree with this one, but not the other two.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield

Research "real estate".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76391371




I know what real estate is but I don't know how it would change anything by disallowing women to own it?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield

You do not know "real" in real estate.
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Humans don't mature until age 25, fact.
Age 30 is perfect.
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Instant fix to Western civilization:

1. Take away the woman vote.
2. Women cannot own real estate.
3. In a divorce a woman returns to her family. Period. The children stay with the father. No alimony. No child support.

The above is the way it works in the rest of the world and the way it used to work in the West.
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Muslim. fuck off.
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Agree with this one, but not the other two.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield

Research "real estate".
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I know what real estate is but I don't know how it would change anything by disallowing women to own it?
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield

You do not know "real" in real estate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76391371



I sort of implied that I don't understand what you mean, why don't you just tell me what you mean?
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I don't have to hear you out since I've been saying the same thing for a long time. Young people have no business voting. In addition to raising the age requirement, a rigid competancy test should also be required. If you don't understand the constitution andhow the country is supposed to work why should you be voting.





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