Australian Smokers..

THANK YOU

Isn't it some ridiculous tax that some crazy unelected b
*tch set into effect?

talk about making a huge black market, it's not hard to grow tobacco

Hey CD45$ is criminal,i paid 32$ on an island off qld

in melbourne i pae abow ereven dorrar a pak 25's.

@ least the price of weed hasnt shifted in 30 years.grey market winning.

It says they are currently not taking new orders

Sup brotha?

Wish that were the case here, In Adelaide (weed capital of OZ) I'd pay two hundred quid for an ounce, now in Syd cunts want 5-7 hundred! Shits whack!

Just be patient bro, check back in a few days.

Years ago a shop in Mossman sold tobacco in bags. Cheap as.
I work in community and smokers that live alone no social life will give up food.

I'm seeing clients spend over 450 for 2 cartens that's a weeks pension here now buying cup of noodles.

Yet all the tax smokers pay to health they are put back of the line as they smoke.

Where was I..
Well those that make the laws that smoke earn enough to pay those that don't do with out. I gave up meat.. With draughts meat has price has jumped. Yet sheep are sold for 20$ a head . only ppl that eat red meat are single men.


Still don't know wherein going here lol.

Maybe I can smoke ground coffee as tea never worked when in was young.

Maybe op all smokers should sue taboccoo companies.
Still don't know where I am or talking.

Mightas well do drugs no that's what they want.

yep 200/250$ an 0.i never been to sydney,sounds like the gulag...not that melb is that gr8,more like a colony on the moon.

sum of the quality of its parts}garbage in<>garbage out.

This ridiculous tax approach on tobacco is most probably
going to kill more people than it aims to save.

Considering that a pack of cigarettes costs 60 cents in some countries, who's getting that extra $24.40 that you're paying?

I hope this helps. Thread: Starting and Growing Tobacco from Seeds. New Hope Seed Company: Bringing back old tobacco varities from days gone by. No hybrids... No GMO's

HI judethz


SECTION 28 ONLY LICENSED PRODUCERS TO PRODUCE TOBACCO LEAF ETC.

28(1)
A person who does not hold a producer licence must not intentionally produce material that is tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf knowing, or being reckless as to whether, the material is tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf.

Penalty:

(a) for tobacco seed or tobacco plant-2 years imprisonment or 500 penalty units; and
(b) for tobacco leaf-2 years imprisonment or the greater of:
(i) 500 penalty units; and
(ii) 5 times the amount of duty, worked out under the regulations, being the duty that would be payable if the tobacco leaf had been manufactured into excisable goods and entered for home consumption on the penalty day.
Note: See section 4AA of the Crimes Act 1914 for the current value of a penalty unit.

28(2)
A person who does not hold a producer licence must not produce tobacco seed, tobacco plant or tobacco leaf.

Penalty: 100 penalty units.


28(3)
Strict liability applies to subsection (2).

NB. I think that the phrase ‘home consumption’ means ‘in Australia’ and not ‘in the home’.

But it gets worse. Notice the ‘penalty units’ provisions:

“(a) for tobacco seed or tobacco plant-2 years imprisonment or 500 penalty units; and (b) for tobacco leaf-2 years imprisonment or the greater of:”

But note the statement:

“Note: See section 4AA of the Crimes Act 1914 for the current value of a penalty unit.”

So I checked section 4AA and found this:


penalty unit means $170.
$170!!!

So a ‘fine’ of 500 penalty units equals 500 x $170! Equals $85,000!!!! Thus, if you grow one tobacco plant (without a licence), you are possibly liable for a fine of $85,000!!!

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There are a couple of observations which ensue:

1. The draconian nature of the penalty suggests that the measure (from 1901, don’t forget) was aimed at ‘big players’.

2. That there were, at the time, special needs in Australia for such legislation – akin to King James’s prohibition of tobacco growing in England around 1650. I have little doubt in my mind that the above provisions were enacted to protect the aristocratic control of the tobacco industry in Australia.

3. That one of the reasons that Tobacco Control chose Australia to become the most tyrannical of prohibitionist states is precisely because of this ancient, unrepealed law.

One’s heart bleeds for our Australian cousins.

UPDATE 8th April.

Perhaps I should also mention that it seems that tobacco companies no longer grow plants in Australia – all their leaf is imported.


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We recycle prime ministers just because then those PM's get to retire on sweet pensions for life plus perks. Can't have all this extra money added to M1 measure of the money supply so some has to come out. Tax the plebs seems to be the preferred method.

Yeah but if it's not actually growing on your property...

Yeah, whats up with the price in the USA. I am American working in Myanmar. I buy Winston, 1 pack around $0.75 cents. Same thing, smokes and taste the same. Someone is is making big money. Same in Thailand, Lao, Cambodia. I have been there.

these tobacco taxes are preposterous, they amount to FINES for legal acts [like buying a legal substance]...i don't think you can be a conservative and support such fines [oops, i meant TAXES].

Criminals.

UPDATE!

Store is back online and now taking orders!

I suggest you take all that money spend on tobacco and by weapons to take back your country from the politician.

What I don't understand is:

How it is legal for them to continually increase the price of tobacco? I would say its discriminatory at the least.

If the government did this to, say, toilet paper then, Im sure a "shit show" would follow. (yes, the pun was intended)

What about the rules of fair trade practices, there must be some angle the smokers could take to have the price of cigarettes frozen?

You can be sure, if it was the price of beer we are talking about raising every few months then the average Aussie male would have a fit!

bootleg tobacco farming....great climate for it....leaves...the leaves this country can produce doesn't even yet have a tangible value....
It will compete with an already very well established market ....

don't let 'em stiff the rest of us...while you make a quid off our backs.

Make 'em pay. Through the fucken nose, and beyond or piss 'em off.

They need us more than we need them.

It's legal because you don't have guns

I suspect the gumbiment won't you to pay through the nose in exchange for what smokers cost the system with their health costs and issues.