I know this sounds stupid but Why Is It So Hard to Have a Relationship with God?

It's not as if the infinitude doesn't hear you speak. Ask for guidance. Speak as if you are heard. Speak to it as a beloved, as your guide and master and friend. Find teachings that help you purify yourself. Become humble and open like a child. The name of God is God, like a field you sow.

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As one raised catholic from birth, educated through catholic schools and university, and a devout catholic up until the moment I was Born-Again; I disagree.

Sadly, ol motherchurch betrays the Love for God that it fosters among its parishioners because it DENIES The Gospel and Purpose Of Christ. ONLY ONE WAY Unto The Father...

"Marvel not that I Say unto you, Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" John 3:7
"....No man Cometh Unto The Father BUT BY ME!" John 14:6


St. John Witnesses in First John Epistle 2:27 that (if we are Born-Again) "We Need NO Man To Guide Us"... In verse 20 John Witnesses "But you have AN Unction From The Holy One and KNOW All Things!"

the rcc denies The Father and HIS Son. It's an elaborate web of deceit they have spun since about 300ad. Unwilling to Trust God, the rcc does its own thing and fosters fear and loathing for "protestant" Christianity.

Martin Luther, priest at Wickenburg who posted his 95 Theses on the church door, said he would have reuninoned with rome (the rcc) if only they had agreed with ONE of his Theses: That the God's Purpose for Sending Christ Jesus With The Gospel Was To Be Able To Have Relationship With Men on a Personal and Direct Basis.

rcc can't accept that.
It would put them out of business...

I was NEVER Led to attend another catholic service after I gave my life to God.

God comes to men twice a day and they don't know it was HIM. If you feel in a rut then I suggest fasting. It will start to unlock the spiritual gifts.

Job 33


14For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.

15In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;

16Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,

17That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.

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Mainstream, for the masses Christianity has been stripped of the real, working techniques and tools to facilitate communion with the Divine.
There are some left, but it's unlikely you find them, and, if you do, it's even more unlikely you would accept them, because contemporary Christianity loves to demonize anything it doesn't grasp.
Unfortunately for them, by so doing they commit the one unforgivable sin...they blaspheme the Holy Spirit. This is one reason why these things aren't shared. You have to be called to them.

That said, consider trying the Hecychasm techniques and judge for yourself.

seems obvious to me


god doesn't want a relationship with his slaves ... why would he?

he just wants you to do as you are told (like the angels and demon) without question ... even if it means killing your fellow man, for not reason other than "for his name sake" --- when you aren't even told his name


when are you people going to get it ... and stop serving this Psycopathic ET ...

Our (true) Creator, designed NATURE to provide for your EVERY NEED - UNCONDITIONALLY ... why do you worship "god"? when you are specifically told to FEAR HIM ...

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You would be wrong about that...

It's possible to have a personal relationship with God and be Catholic. I do it on a daily basis. Many saints throughout history have done it. The idea that you just follow the Bible according to your own interpretation is one I firmly reject because there's no authority to interpret it correctly. Christ founded a church, the Catholic church. I hope that one day you will return because now you find yourself in the realm of thousands of Christian denominations who all contradict each other in their interpretation. It's very easy to fall into heresy where you are right now.

Both the Father and His Son have millions of ways to communicate with you. This topic thread has videos of such things


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Christ didn't start the RCC.

Once Constantine had his "vision", won the battle and subsequently made Christianity legal AND the "official religion" of the Roman Empire...

...they merely assimilated the existing Christian network of churches that had already existed for well over 200 years.

To say the RCC is the original church as set up by the Apostles is misleading, and conveniently ignores the 200+ years of persecution that Rome doled out during that time.

God and His Son Jesus merely used Rome to spread Christianity, since the Roman Empire was still the most powerful in that area of the world.

The Reformation was started by God and Jesus because of all the atrocities the RCC had been commiting, especially the notion that lay-people were NOT to read the Bible.

These days, most of the Christian denominations are similar to the RCC in the sense that they have gotten away from good Biblical teachings.

Just look at all the scandels and upheaval that is happening in them.



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Actually, it's not; possible, that is...

Don't talk to me about "saints"...
These are, in rcc parlance, men/women who did "good works" or were martyred. Doesn't mean they were doing God's Will. Good catholics, maybe...

Lots of Witness from Jesus in Scripture about those who will face Rejection.

You fall back on one of the rcc's biggest deceptions: The Matthew 16:13-20 claim that "You are Peter and upon this rock I build MY Church" relates to Peter being installed as the first pope. Verse 20 negates that entirely, where Jesus Tells The Apostles not to tell others that HE IS The Christ.

It's The KNOWING WHO Jesus IS that matters.
Without The KNOWING, God The Father Has NOT Called you...

What "thousands of Christian denominations?"
And who cares?
Catholics are ritualistically indoctrinated (the sacraments) to strongly Believe in "motherchurch" not God...

All your rationalizations are voiced here because you have no actual Relationship With God. Want to Believe you do? Fine.

I can remember the moment, the feeling, what I said, and how I Knew that after I had made my surrender Unto The Father, that HE Had Accepted my offering and Made Me A New Creature. I GOT "A New Heart Of HIS Flesh", and Was Enabled to KNOW and DO HIS Will and KEEP HIS Statutes.

The thing with Believers is, they don't have enough Love For God to Take Action...

KNOWING God Personally and Directly IS Inclusion Within HIS Body. You can read John ch 17... Jesus' Witness of The Born-Again Life. The "church" HE Witnesses Of, (not in John 17 though) applies to Those Very Elect, HIS Remnant; Those Entrusted Unto HIM BY HIS Father and Given Back To Father before HIS crucifixion.

But, your carnal-heart won't allow you to See/Hear The Gospel; much less recognize True witness when given.

Christ Says to Nicodemus in John 3:11.... "WE Tell you what WE Have Seen and Know, but still you reject OUR Witness".


The Called, (and ol Nic KNEW Jesus Was Of-The Father), still reject The Witness of Christ and those who Live In and With HIM and The Father.


On my heart is that the reason for Jesus' Millenial Reign is that it will take 1,000 years for many who Claim HIM to actually understand what God Has Offered...


I was Given By God The Holy Spirit to Know this: "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart; even if only as a child, will not be lost or condemned."

If you are one of those trying to 'fake it till you make it', you're running out of time...

If you're one of those who Needs God more than your next breath, then all you gotta do is Come Unto HIM and make your surrender. Might take all of ten minutes, but it is the whole reason for which you were Given Life...

Do you Believe in your rcc or do you Believe In God?
motherchurch serves God's enemy.
Christ Jesus Has Made Our WAY Unto The Father possible. All we have to do is Seek Father in earnest prayer and open our heart totally Unto HIM.

Not really any "wrong" way to do it. After you've Been Born-Again you need no man for anything. All our Trust IS In God.

One more thing from your statement above...

Who "follows The Bible"?. No Born-Again that I'm aware of...

When you have Relationship With The Father, any questions you have, you Ask HIM Directly. God The Holy Spirit Within you Guides Your Life...

The Reality is that God Living With, In and Through you has Given you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh, and Enabled you to KNOW and DO HIS Will; but, HE don't make you an automaton. Lots of Christians would not approve of God's Will. It's not what they expect.

What is this bullshit about "no authority to interpret it" meaning The Bible.... You, and all others who remain carnal (as Jesus Called them "workers of iniquity" in Matt 7:23) live your lives ALIENATED from God.


It's funny. All PLAINLY Written in Scripture, but we can't understand until we're Born-Again because you can't KNOW until you KNOW... Like a male OB-GYN can't know what it feels like (personally) to have a baby...

The rcc denial of Scripture and The Father and Son means you never are exposed to True witness; much less The Witness Of Christ Jesus and How and What that means to those seeking God... If you are seeking God, HE has NOTHING to do with the rcc.


We were Given Knowledge of WHO Jesus IS because The Father Has Called Us Unto HIM. There is no Coming Unto HIM, even for the priesthood, in the rcc.

Many were Called, but few Chose to Answer Father's Call...
That is the Reality of Chrisitianity.
It's all about your heart and if you Love God enough to Give HIM your all.

Why is it hard to have a relationship with God?

From my experience it's because people look to many different directions outside of themselves for God when God was always inside of us. God loves us so much that He put a piece of His Divine Spark within our hearts so that we FEEL Love within, we are connecting directly to the Beloved Father/Creator. I speak from experience because I too tried to find God in the Catholic teachings and they spoke about it often, but the Love from God is something that must be FELT DEEP WITHIN THE HEART -over and over and over again until we are always loved by Him and we love Him with our whole self.

So although Jesus was correct and perfect in his teaching, the way to feel the truth was lost. When we are joyful, happy, smiling, at peace, and all the most beautiful things the Beloved Father has to give us, we are in His presence.

Holy Spirits, from my understanding, are beings that never left the Kingdom - unlike us. They are our siblings.

Just my experience- not an opinion.

@OP You want to know why? For real? It's because in prayer and everything else people basically are picking up their phone and talking into it without dialing a number.

Seek Him with all your heart & soul and you shall find Him.
Jeremiah 29:13


Imagine the I intensity of something passionately you wanted.

Your first car. A hot girl. A good job. Your favorite meal.

You have to want God more than any of that! A lot more.

Make Him your magnificent obsession!





Ask Him to help you grow your passion for Him and He will!

Get radical. Try an extended fast.

Load some Christian music on your phone and make worshipping Him a habit.

And stop hanging around Luke warm Christian s

This!

Bibletards. Idiots. God doesnt exist. Youre all mentally challenged

The Bible is the history of God's interaction with mankind covering 4000+ years. And ALL pertinent information concerning sin, the forgiveness of sin and Salvation is provided.

Dozens, if not hundreds, of people and places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist, both archaeologically and through other writings.

Archaeologically, it is THE most venerated book in history, as no other book has so many proven places that existed just as the Bible states.

And you folks have NO answers for thousands of miracles.

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Keep trying, I'll offer up a prayer for you.

Any relationship that is healthy is not 1 of the 2 doing all the work.

It must be 50 / 50 right?

Also communication is a must. If communication is broken the relationship dies.

Therefore I believe it is unfair that mankind bear the burden of a relationship with his creator 100%.

IOW if we speak to Him in a voice He should respond that is only fair communication.

Sure many will say He speaks to us through the Bible. To that I would say He is a living Lord God and must speak to all generations 1 on 1 as He is able in their native tongue in real time just as a real entity can.

For now we are only left sadly like an idol that neither speaks nor hears nor communicates or interacts.

Anything beyond this is fallacy / fantasy if one says He speaks in that "little voice in your head" kinda thing.

Get real people our eternity is at stake AFAIK.

We must implore Him daily to SPEAK as we SPEAK to Him and be a partaker in the relationship of life and not of mystery, guesswork, happenchance or self deceptions.

He is able if He is.

This is why humanity is angry and like a stepchild grafted into a tree not of its own struggles to survive while our shepherd of the forests sleeps or is not at all.

This is our lot, our suffering of the saints. We must carry the greater weight of our relationship with the Lord GOd. Why? Because it is what it is.

We hope therefore we have the smallest mustard seed and after our deaths may our hope be realized and rewarded in everlasting life with a crown of life.

All I can say is we only know so very little and must unknow all we learnt to be filled anew by reading His Holy Word. In humility and sadness we bear the full weight of belief in a lopsided relationship that appears unfair to us.

We trod onwards still until getting raptured while alive... or eventual painful death in our prayers & hope. For that is all we have to cling to.

Hypothetically even if He is not if we live by His values & ways we will make others happier and thus ourselves as well because it is a boomerang karma thing.

Sighs.

Thank you guys for replying to my thread.

I haven't abandoned it either.

I'm reading all your kind response and thinking

about them..

Within the next couple of days I'll post some of thoughts

in response to yours..


hugs to all

xx

Thank you for reminding me of Hesychasm and the Jesus Prayer. Christianity really does need to get back to the more mystical roots of the faith. Mystical in the sense of directly experiencing the Holy Spirit and contemplative prayer instead of just loud rock concerts with light shows and huge video screens that play the same little feel good videos and such.

Time to go back to Dark Night Of The Soul, Philokalia, Desert Fathers, etc.

First, praying for his presence and truly confessing to your sins and telling him you want to do his will in your life. That is usually when you feel him and you know you are born again. You will feel happy and want to tell everyone about him. You will be bold in your faith. It's really like you are flooded with light and happiness and see the world and people differently. That's how you usually know you have been born again. This leads you to want to do the next step. You should read and study the bible a lot. You will crave the word and will become alive to you. Don't listen to anyone for your truth. Let God lead you to the truth. Actually, diligently study the word. You will get closer and closer to God and he will show what he wants you to know and what he wants you to do in your life. He may even start to give you prophetic dreams or visions or other supernatural things. That's the way it was for me anyway. Don't give up. It's awesome when it does happen.

Because there is no god. People just want to torment you to see how far they can control you.

Basically, it's just a cult anyways. Some old fart writes a book and people take it as the gospel. I think Nostradamus should be know as god if that's the case and Divinci.

Wrong. He's bigger than you can imagine.

And he's prickly.

He's God.

And you are beloved ants.

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