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Looks like another rousing day of Kremlin trolls trolling American trolls and vice versa. Oh well. Sit back and enjoy the carnage.
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No, it is not like that at all.

If you go and read last twenty pages carefully you will notice that the trolling and derailing of this thread always starts with, what you call "American trolls". The thread is going well until Swiss guy or that Ukrainian expat living in UK shows up. They start to, not with thoughtful opinions, cause they are too dumb to produce one. But they start with bold text first and it usually is one liner, that doesn't say anything but, "Maduro fat fuck, commie, dictator", and so on... They don't have opinion so what they do is post memes and one liners and lots of "Kremlin troll" accusations. That's all they can manage and unfortunately its enough to fuck up the flow of the thread. But to say, we "St.Petersburg" shills are the one who are causing the trolling of this thread is a blatant lie.
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Other people have said this, and I agree with them; all these troubles are a result of resource contention.

Last night I was under the impression that oxygen was running out, for instance.

Now that seems a bit silly, but there's no doubt that things that were once plentiful are now in serious decline.

It is said that the ancient people had no real problems when it came to having enough food to eat, even though they led a lifestyle of hunting and gathering.

The reason for this is that the worldwide tribe of humans was so few, and the bounties of the land so great. It is said that you could go to a river and gather enough fish to feed a village.

Now things are just not the same, we utilize fossil fuels in order to produce food... And those fuels are slowly being depleted.

Resources are running out. And it's going to get worse.
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Get this straight. Humans are not the problem. ((They)) are intentionally poisoning our environment. Do some research so you don't sound like a conditioned millennial.
 Quoting: BadProgBad


Sorry, but I don't agree.

Maybe if you could explain who ((they)) are? Are you talking about Jevvs? In that case I think that you're placing a whole lot of blame on some people who really don't have nearly as much influence as you (and other people) might think they do.
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Whoever the evil fucks are who are really running shit. And I never holler "the juice." If there is a problem in your neighborhood, would you like someone to investigate? Or just say "fuck it" and pull a Hitler and wipe out the whole neighborhood? Two evils don't make a right.
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There's too many people. I stand by my original point. Sure, maybe some evil individuals are deliberately poisoning the environment, but meanwhile the rest of us are having some pretty deleterious effects just by being alive.
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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It appears a web based bot is messing with the comments here. As an AC, nothing I typed would post.

Here is the status of Venezuela:

The power is 70 percent restored and has been for 14 hours.

Venezuela was providing Suriname with power and has not returned it to Suriname, to add 10 percent to Venezuela's recovery.

At this time, after dark, drones are going around dropping conductive carbon fibers into Venezuela's substations in attempts to blow them up. Lots of attempts were successful.

There is an ongoing virus infection at Guri, in the newer equipment but the stuff they installed in the 1980's is running again, which is why they have 75 percent power. It would be 60 percent power if they switched Suriname back on, but I don't think Maduro is going to do that.

All of this is confirmed first hand info, and it can be proven by seeing how many Venezuelans have internet access at this link:

[link to map.internetintel.oracle.com (secure)]

If this does not post, I am going to notify Trin that someone is F**ing with this forum.
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Surinam? Sounds like that should be in Southeast Asia.
Wow. This just isn't Venezuela, it's the whole South American Continent. jezus. Migration is going to spread disease there too. wow. just wow.

Interesting thing about bots. First in was Arabic, then Russian. Shows the point of entry times and timeline and methods.
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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
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If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
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bump
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75606460


If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
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They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
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PEOPLE LOOTING IN MARACAIBO IN FRONT OF THE NATIONAL GUARD. THE GUARDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAVE RUN OUT OF AMMO!



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 Quoting: Spanish_guy


Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75606460


If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


Obviously that only banksters are the people for you, Karlo.
Name them directly: your employers.
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Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75606460


If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
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Don't meddle in things you know nothing of, Slovenia
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LOLZ, A Slovenian and a Russian reply, and instantly!!!
The Russky TROLLS are fast and furious
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Extremely sad to see a country in such a state, a country which, by the way should be very wealthy. Well, I guess that's what you get with Maduro in power, let's pray for some change and wish them the best.
hf
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75606460


If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77447400


The only ones that are responsible for the situation in Venezuela are the leaders of venezuela. There are 0 economical sanctions on the economy on venezuela. The only sanctions that are implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and freezing bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
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If your neighbor is beating his wife and kids, do you intervene or do nothing? It's a tricky question, and I don't believe there's a right answer.
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75606460


If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77447400


Don't meddle in things you know nothing of, Slovenia
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


I support President Assad in Syria and Russia's efforts there. I think it is better for the West to have a secular leader there and he is the lesser and neccesary evil. He has had to make difficult choices and I know it has not been easy for him.

Having said that, Venezuela's problem is about CORRUPTION of the elite. If you are corrupt, socialism is a very unjust system. If you are massively corrupt, socialism will destroy your society. Only Maduro is to blame for Venezuela's problem, the only sanctions that were put forward by United States affected the State employees and top leaders of Maduro's party. It is not true to say that Venezuela was under an economic blockade like Cuba or North Korea. That's plainly wrong... Maduro has destroyed Venezuela's economy and he should resign over it, that's the truth. Don't be blindsided by imperialism/anti-imperialism...
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It might get ugly, but we need to stop Chinese and Russian influence in SA IMHO. It's just basic security.
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ILYS-dude
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Of course you do. Of course that's what you're paid to say. Who knows maybe you don't. Oh well. Never thought I'd see the day where glp'ers where shilling for socialism.
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What are you talking about AC?

I coulnd't be further from a Socialist shill tbh.

I just really don't like seeing a sovereign country being targeted by economic sanctioncs for years, and then the same country sanctionning them, calling for foreign intervention and stuff...

They wanted to be socialist, the got it, let them deal with there own shit.

MY POINT BEING THE US AND INTERNATIONAL GROUPS SHOULDN'T HAVE INTERFER WITH THERE ECONOMY AT FIRST!
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The only sanctions that were implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
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LOL you are ignorant! You should def. educate yourself on the subject before trying to push your agenda
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ILYS-dude
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Of course you do. Of course that's what you're paid to say. Who knows maybe you don't. Oh well. Never thought I'd see the day where glp'ers where shilling for socialism.
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What are you talking about AC?

I coulnd't be further from a Socialist shill tbh.

I just really don't like seeing a sovereign country being targeted by economic sanctioncs for years, and then the same country sanctionning them, calling for foreign intervention and stuff...

They wanted to be socialist, the got it, let them deal with there own shit.

MY POINT BEING THE US AND INTERNATIONAL GROUPS SHOULDN'T HAVE INTERFER WITH THERE ECONOMY AT FIRST!
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So you're pro Maduro. Who is a socialist dictator.
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I never said he was not a Socialist! And I never said I was Pro Maduro.

I'm simply Pro non intervention
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Of course you do. Of course that's what you're paid to say. Who knows maybe you don't. Oh well. Never thought I'd see the day where glp'ers where shilling for socialism.
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What are you talking about AC?

I coulnd't be further from a Socialist shill tbh.

I just really don't like seeing a sovereign country being targeted by economic sanctioncs for years, and then the same country sanctionning them, calling for foreign intervention and stuff...

They wanted to be socialist, the got it, let them deal with there own shit.

MY POINT BEING THE US AND INTERNATIONAL GROUPS SHOULDN'T HAVE INTERFER WITH THERE ECONOMY AT FIRST!
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The only sanctions that were implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
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LOL you are ignorant! You should def. educate yourself on the subject before trying to push your agenda
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Thats not my agenda. Thats what the facts are saying.

Overview of US sanctions [link to fas.org (secure)]

But in case that i really am ignorant can you pls list some of the sanctions.

Thx
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Easy to say when you won't be doing the fighting, globalist shill.
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If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77447400


The only ones that are responsible for the situation in Venezuela are the leaders of venezuela. There are 0 economical sanctions on the economy on venezuela. The only sanctions that are implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and freezing bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
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If your neighbor is beating his wife and kids, do you intervene or do nothing? It's a tricky question, and I don't believe there's a right answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


Yes, I agree leadership is to blame. But to say its all on them is a bit of a stretch. Just yesterday Pompeo scolded Russia and Cuba for buying Venezuelan oil. Pressure like this on Venezuela exists since 1999.

And I will say it again. It is not our business, it is internal matter of a sovereign country. There will be no lost of lives in hundreds of thousands if we intervene in family dispute between husband and wife. It is very silly analogy.
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If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74616659


They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77447400


The only ones that are responsible for the situation in Venezuela are the leaders of venezuela. There are 0 economical sanctions on the economy on venezuela. The only sanctions that are implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and freezing bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77083156


If your neighbor is beating his wife and kids, do you intervene or do nothing? It's a tricky question, and I don't believe there's a right answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


Yes, I agree leadership is to blame. But to say its all on them is a bit of a stretch. Just yesterday Pompeo scolded Russia and Cuba for buying Venezuelan oil. Pressure like this on Venezuela exists since 1999.

And I will say it again. It is not our business, it is internal matter of a sovereign country. There will be no lost of lives in hundreds of thousands if we intervene in family dispute between husband and wife. It is very silly analogy.
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The US is the biggest buyer of venezuela oil btw so thats a weird statement from pompeo.
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They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
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The only ones that are responsible for the situation in Venezuela are the leaders of venezuela. There are 0 economical sanctions on the economy on venezuela. The only sanctions that are implemented by the US and Europe are freezing assets and freezing bankaccounts in the US and Europe from leaders in Venezuela. No blockade of food or medicine what so ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77083156


If your neighbor is beating his wife and kids, do you intervene or do nothing? It's a tricky question, and I don't believe there's a right answer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77422373


Yes, I agree leadership is to blame. But to say its all on them is a bit of a stretch. Just yesterday Pompeo scolded Russia and Cuba for buying Venezuelan oil. Pressure like this on Venezuela exists since 1999.

And I will say it again. It is not our business, it is internal matter of a sovereign country. There will be no lost of lives in hundreds of thousands if we intervene in family dispute between husband and wife. It is very silly analogy.
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The US is the biggest buyer of venezuela oil btw so thats a weird statement from pompeo.
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Could be before this crisis started.
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MADURO SAYS: FULL TRUTH SOON:

CYBER ATTACK SOURCE CAME FROM 2 US CITIES HOUSTON AND CHICAGO


@NicolasMaduro: The cyberattack on Venezuela was directed from two US cities, from Houston and Chicago.

We are moving forward to discover the full truth of this attack


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MADURO SAYS: FULL TRUTH SOON:

CYBER ATTACK SOURCE CAME FROM 2 US CITIES HOUSTON AND CHICAGO


@NicolasMaduro: The cyberattack on Venezuela was directed from two US cities, from Houston and Chicago.

We are moving forward to discover the full truth of this attack


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Lot's of anti-American Russian proxy shills here promoting the Maduro thug, sad, that's all I have to say...
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Alright Switzerland don't you have a yodeler to choke ?
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U.S. may sanction Turkey for backing Maduro - envoy

U.S. special representative to Venezuela Elliot Abrams said on Tuesday that Turkey’s support for Venezuela’s embattled Nicholas Maduro has driven the United States to consider possible sanctions.

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LOLZ, A Slovenian and a Russian reply, and instantly!!!
The Russky TROLLS are fast and furious

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If wishing the best for the people of Venezuela makes me a shill, then you need to take some serious edgy and far out pills
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They also wished nothing but the best for Syrian people, seven years after it brought them 350.000 death.

It is not our business, not yours not mine and not American governments.
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Don't meddle in things you know nothing of, Slovenia
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I support President Assad in Syria and Russia's efforts there. I think it is better for the West to have a secular leader there and he is the lesser and neccesary evil. He has had to make difficult choices and I know it has not been easy for him.

Having said that, Venezuela's problem is about CORRUPTION of the elite. If you are corrupt, socialism is a very unjust system. If you are massively corrupt, socialism will destroy your society. Only Maduro is to blame for Venezuela's problem, the only sanctions that were put forward by United States affected the State employees and top leaders of Maduro's party. It is not true to say that Venezuela was under an economic blockade like Cuba or North Korea. That's plainly wrong... Maduro has destroyed Venezuela's economy and he should resign over it, that's the truth. Don't be blindsided by imperialism/anti-imperialism...
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^^Sorry but this is utter bullshit and ignorance, regurgitation from globalist MSM. The world doesn't work in a way where everything is black or white. To put all of the blame at the feet of side A or side B is gross oversimplification of things.

US actions are heavily responsible for Venezuela's problems. The US globalists been destabilizing the country ever since Chavez came to power, even leading to a short lived coup at one point. Sanctions don't have to be placed directly on Venezuela to do damage either. US Sanctions are placed on those who do business with PDVSA which prevents Venezuela from selling their oil at prices they want or prevents it being sold at all. This sort of thing intends to act as a sledgehammer to the Venezuela economy and the quality of life for Venezuelans.

You have an interesting idea of what socialism is. Poverty in Venezuela was much WORSE before the anti-globalists Chavez and Maduro came to power. For all talk of "socialism" Venezuela's economy is actually dominated by private ownership and capitalism, at ratio of 70% against 30%.

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MADURO SAYS: FULL TRUTH SOON:

CYBER ATTACK SOURCE CAME FROM 2 US CITIES HOUSTON AND CHICAGO


@NicolasMaduro: The cyberattack on Venezuela was directed from two US cities, from Houston and Chicago.

We are moving forward to discover the full truth of this attack


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.@NicolasMaduro: I will ask for the help of international specialists, specialists from the UN, Russia, China and Iran. Countries with great experiences in these defense issues in cyber attacks


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rofl5rofl5rofl5

Fuck me. the Russian circus are coming to town.

Its like being in a kinder garden school yard with all the spew they come out with.

Let the entertainment begin.

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Venezuela's power is now 78.2 percent restored





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