What's that little line drawn over 666 in Greek Bible manuscripts ? | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It could be the Mathematical equivalent of inversion. 666 would be 999 or 666 NOT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 Negation. Ancient Greeks used it in Math, old Boolean algebra. It could be a message. --- 666 ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I'm going to go ahead and leave this thread now. Your basic premise has been blown to shreds. If you choose to go flat earther and still believe in your own delusion notion that only sacred names were abbreviated with an overbar, I don't know what to do for you. Flat earthers won't believe the earth rotates either although every shred of evidence proves it. Quoting: anastasis888 So...enjoy. well, yer an arrogant flake who thinks the ancients thought the earth was flat and nothing is further from the truth try starting with the work of somebody like Otto Neugebauer and then work your way into more difficult authors like Joran Friberg I think you missed my point. That's not surprising, though. Enjoy your stupid, ignorant thread. later, dolt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 02/08/2019 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen Cuneiform script but I haven't learned or studied it yet. It could be the Mathematical equivalent of inversion. 666 would be 999 or 666 NOT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 Negation. Ancient Greeks used it in Math, old Boolean algebra. It could be a message. --- 666 ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's go a little deeper now that we've shed the imbecile Numbers like 666 are called " figurate numbers " in mathematics and they've been used for thousand of years to teach basic geometric principles Most of the knowitalls here would spend 10 seconds on google and come back and claim the Greeks invented this, which of course is not true at all This convention of mathematics is discussed in the Egyptian Rhind mathematical papyrus, which in turn states in the colophon that it was copied from an ancient copy anybody get that pre-biblical divinity notation yet ? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen Cuneiform script but I haven't learned or studied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 it yet. It could be the Mathematical equivalent of inversion. 666 would be 999 or 666 NOT Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 Negation. Ancient Greeks used it in Math, old Boolean algebra. It could be a message. --- 666 ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? oooooh, that's where the really good stuff is I started my studies 7 years ago, have to say, mind blown It's perhaps the most obscure and poorly understood area of mathematics Common academia usually credits Greek, Arab and European mathematicians/ astronomers with the invention of things they just inherited from these older systems ( especially the Greeks ), this includes Newton, Euler, Huygens, Archimedes, Aristarchus, etc All the greats merely rediscovered things known to the ancients |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 02/08/2019 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen Cuneiform script but I haven't learned or studied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 it yet. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 Negation. Ancient Greeks used it in Math, old Boolean algebra. It could be a message. --- 666 ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? oooooh, that's where the really good stuff is I started my studies 7 years ago, have to say, mind blown It's perhaps the most obscure and poorly understood area of mathematics Common academia usually credits Greek, Arab and European mathematicians/ astronomers with the invention of things they just inherited from these older systems ( especially the Greeks ), this includes Newton, Euler, Huygens, Archimedes, Aristarchus, etc All the greats merely rediscovered things known to the ancients |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll give you a hint: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255788 The first known person to claim to be a god in Mesopotamia is the first person who's name is signified in literature with notation for divinity In turn this same person standardized all measurements in Mesopotamia for several thousand years Basic Bible history here The person would be Naram-Sin, grandson of the founder of the Akkadian empire He's the first known person, by our records, to have claimed to have been a god on earth Also the first to use the title " king of the four regions " The notation is the Akkadian cognate to the semtic " El ", it's called the " dingir " You may know this as " An " ( like anu, Annuna , annuna-ki ) so that's the answer, it's just a generic word for a god but this notation is far older than Naram-sin's use It's the Sumerian pre-cuneiform ideogram for a star So there you have it The origin of the titlo is the Sumerian ideogram of a star Now you know why the Bible uses the phrasing like " star in the pit " |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To clarify a bit: Priest-kings, when they were deified ( gods on earth ) like Naram-Sin, had their names written with the notation of the " dingir " ( An )( same thing as the titlo over 666, it signifies divinity ) However, in cuneiform this is not read out loud, it's like a trademark symbol(tm), so silent ( like the titlo over 666 ) this is known as a " determinant " in cuneiform languages |
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anastasis888 User ID: 2471347 United States 02/08/2019 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that you've shed the dolt, you're on to cunneiform? I'm sure that will help you understand 3rd century CE Christian papyri from Alexandrian scribes writing numerical shorthand. Somewhere in here you should try to work in space aliens and something from Enoch. Last Edited by anastasis888 on 02/08/2019 02:08 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the earliest written records, ( Uruk, circa 4,000 BC ) this 5 pointed star refers to the " four regions ", known as " ub-da limmu " " Ub ", meaning corner, recess this is then used in the title Naram-sin first claimed as " King of the Four Corners of the World " [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] ( referring to being king of all one could see ) this ideogram of the 5 pointed star was later used as the old city seal for Jerusalem |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you know why Cuneiform Script died out as written and spoken Language? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 It's a good question, by my study it died out around 100 AD But, that said, there are Sumerian loanwords in the English language, so we have retained some, in a way The use of base 60 and bi-sexigesimal mesopotamian bases used for mathematical astronomy was standard until the time of Newton, and Greeks merely borrowed astronomy notations from the Babylonians Greek " Saros " from the Sumerian " sar " ( 3600, " garden ", etc ) |
anastasis888 User ID: 2471347 United States 02/08/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, you used 'semiosis'. You must be one of those smart people. You should use 'epistemology' somewhere in this dungheap of a thread to look really smart. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that you've shed the dolt, you're on to cunneiform? Quoting: anastasis888 I'm sure that will help you understand 3rd century CE Christian papyri from Alexandrian scribes writing numerical shorthand. Somewhere in here you should try to work in space aliens and something from Enoch. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
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anastasis888 User ID: 2471347 United States 02/08/2019 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now that you've shed the dolt, you're on to cunneiform? Quoting: anastasis888 I'm sure that will help you understand 3rd century CE Christian papyri from Alexandrian scribes writing numerical shorthand. Somewhere in here you should try to work in space aliens and something from Enoch. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww ------------ f4gg07 Last Edited by anastasis888 on 02/08/2019 02:22 PM Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 02/08/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genesis 11 1Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words. 2It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. 6The LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them. 7"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech." 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city. 9Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of the whole earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth. :) Do you know why Cuneiform Script died out as written and spoken Language? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 It's a good question, by my study it died out around 100 AD But, that said, there are Sumerian loanwords in the English language, so we have retained some, in a way The use of base 60 and bi-sexigesimal mesopotamian bases used for mathematical astronomy was standard until the time of Newton, and Greeks merely borrowed astronomy notations from the Babylonians Greek " Saros " from the Sumerian " sar " ( 3600, " garden ", etc ) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen Cuneiform script but I haven't learned or studied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 it yet. ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? a good place to start is the synodic month average the Jewish timekeeping system uses It's based on the Sumerian-Akkadian measurement of 1/72 of one degree of celestial rotation represented by one single grain of barleycorn |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Genesis 11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 1Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words. 2It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. 6The LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them. 7"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech." 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city. 9Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of the whole earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth. :) Do you know why Cuneiform Script died out as written and spoken Language? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 It's a good question, by my study it died out around 100 AD But, that said, there are Sumerian loanwords in the English language, so we have retained some, in a way The use of base 60 and bi-sexigesimal mesopotamian bases used for mathematical astronomy was standard until the time of Newton, and Greeks merely borrowed astronomy notations from the Babylonians Greek " Saros " from the Sumerian " sar " ( 3600, " garden ", etc ) I don't know why you'd post that there were plenty of other scripts used around the world at the time, so there was never a time when the whole world wrote in cuneiform |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63928440 United States 02/08/2019 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure there was, when the whole "Civilized" world WAS the cradle of civilization. That was Mesopotamia at that time, for them. Everyone else was still living in caves and mud huts like in Africa. Genesis 11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 1Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words. 2It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. 6The LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them. 7"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech." 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city. 9Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of the whole earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth. :) Do you know why Cuneiform Script died out as written and spoken Language? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 It's a good question, by my study it died out around 100 AD But, that said, there are Sumerian loanwords in the English language, so we have retained some, in a way The use of base 60 and bi-sexigesimal mesopotamian bases used for mathematical astronomy was standard until the time of Newton, and Greeks merely borrowed astronomy notations from the Babylonians Greek " Saros " from the Sumerian " sar " ( 3600, " garden ", etc ) I don't know why you'd post that there were plenty of other scripts used around the world at the time, so there was never a time when the whole world wrote in cuneiform |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've seen Cuneiform script but I haven't learned or studied Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 it yet. ever seen " system s " ( or variants ) in cuneiform priestly astronomy texts ? a good place to start is the synodic month average the Jewish timekeeping system uses It's based on the Sumerian-Akkadian measurement of 1/72 of one degree of celestial rotation represented by one single grain of barleycorn here the modern Jewish month average : 29 + 1/2 + 40/(24 × 60) + 73/(1080 × 24) days = 29 + 1/2 + 40/1440 + 73/25920 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days is equal to the average as predicted( not calculated by observation, cough ) by the Babylonians with the use of the Zig Zag function 29 + 31/60 + 50/(60 × 60) + 8/(60 × 60 × 60) + 20/(60 × 60 × 60 × 60) days = 29 + 31/60 + 50/3600 + 8/216000 + 20/12960000 days = 29 + 13753/25920 days 60^4 / 25,920 = light seconds in one AU |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so there was never a time when the whole world wrote in cuneiform? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 Sure there was, when the whole "Civilized" world WAS the cradle of civilization. That was Mesopotamia at that time, for them. Everyone else was still living in caves and mud huts like in Africa. Genesis 11 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63928440 1Now the whole earth used the same language and the same words. 2It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there. 6The LORD said, "Behold, they are one people, and they all have the same language. And this is what they began to do, and now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them. 7"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech." 8So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city. 9Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of the whole earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth. :) ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27255788 It's a good question, by my study it died out around 100 AD But, that said, there are Sumerian loanwords in the English language, so we have retained some, in a way The use of base 60 and bi-sexigesimal mesopotamian bases used for mathematical astronomy was standard until the time of Newton, and Greeks merely borrowed astronomy notations from the Babylonians Greek " Saros " from the Sumerian " sar " ( 3600, " garden ", etc ) I don't know why you'd post that there were plenty of other scripts used around the world at the time, so there was never a time when the whole world wrote in cuneiform OK, so then by " the whole world " you mean where exactly ? Mesopotamia ? would help if you clarify " the whole world " just refers to that region instead of the actual whole world It's simply untrue that the whole world wrote in cuneiform at any period in earth's history, nor is it true the whole world used the same script to write with at any time |
anastasis888 User ID: 2471347 United States 02/08/2019 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, now we've gone from an overbar in a third century CE papyrus of Revelation to musings on the speed of light in Mesopotamian cuneiform. Brilliant, OP. This thread is really going places. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, now we've gone from an overbar in a third century CE papyrus of Revelation to musings on the speed of light in Mesopotamian cuneiform. Quoting: anastasis888 Brilliant, OP. This thread is really going places. Thanks, if I thought you actually knew some math or languages I'd invite yo to the forum full of articles I have written on the topics |
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anastasis888 User ID: 2471347 United States 02/08/2019 02:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, now we've gone from an overbar in a third century CE papyrus of Revelation to musings on the speed of light in Mesopotamian cuneiform. Quoting: anastasis888 Brilliant, OP. This thread is really going places. Thanks, if I thought you actually knew some math or languages I'd invite yo to the forum full of articles I have written on the topics Thanks. If I thought you knew anything about New Testament textual criticism I'd invite you to look up the word vinculum. Glory be to God in the high heauens, and peace in earth, and towards men good will. - Luke 2:14 (Geneva Bible, 1560) Can't make it to church? Out on the road? Join us for church live on Ustream. [link to www.ustream.tv (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 27255788 United States 02/08/2019 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, now we've gone from an overbar in a third century CE papyrus of Revelation to musings on the speed of light in Mesopotamian cuneiform. Quoting: anastasis888 Brilliant, OP. This thread is really going places. Thanks, if I thought you actually knew some math or languages I'd invite yo to the forum full of articles I have written on the topics Thanks. If I thought you knew anything about New Testament textual criticism I'd invite you to look up the word vinculum. if you werent so busy being an arrogant cunt you'd have started a thread and taught us all already |
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