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The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.

This new number, called an adversity score by college admissions officers, is calculated using 15 factors including the crime rate and poverty levels from the student’s high school and neighborhood. Students won’t be told the scores, but colleges will see the numbers when reviewing their applications.


An adversity score of 50 is average. Anything above it designates hardship, below it privilege.

The College Board declined to say how it calculates the adversity score or weighs the factors that go into it. The data that informs the score comes from public records such as the U.S. Census as well as some sources proprietary to the College Board, Mr. Coleman said.

Each of the three categories has five sub-indicators that are indexed in calculating each student's adversity score.

Neighborhood environment will take into account crime rate, poverty rate, housing values and vacancy rate.

Family environment will assess what the median income is of where the student's family is from; whether the student is from a single parent household; the educational level of the parents; and whether English is a second language.

High school environment will look at factors such as curriculum rigor, free-lunch rate and AP class opportunities.

Together these factors will calculate an individual's adversity score on a scale of one to 100.


“If I am going to make room for more of the [poor and minority] students we want to admit and I have a finite number of spaces, then someone has to suffer and that will be privileged kids on the bubble,” he said.





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How in the world do you

(a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced,

(b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then

(c) hide the formula’s results from the kid?



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I find this troubling on so many levels. We are moving farther and farther away from objective merit.

The SAT is basically giving students “demerit points” for coming from stable homes & safe neighborhoods.




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Basically the SAT is probably gonna penalize you if you’re:

Male
White/Asian
Straight
Rich
Christian

And reward you if you’re

Trans
Gay
Female/Non-binary
Poor
Minority
Atheist/Muslim

But you’re never gonna know be they won’t tell how they calculate their “adversity score.”




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LOLOL..I Gots a 1600 on my BSAT
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Something tells me the purpose of this will be to combat the so called white privilege.

All of this is going to get much worse.
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LOLOL..I Gots a 1600 on my BSAT
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The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.

This new number, called an adversity score by college admissions officers, is calculated using 15 factors including the crime rate and poverty levels from the student’s high school and neighborhood. Students won’t be told the scores, but colleges will see the numbers when reviewing their applications.


An adversity score of 50 is average. Anything above it designates hardship, below it privilege.

The College Board declined to say how it calculates the adversity score or weighs the factors that go into it. The data that informs the score comes from public records such as the U.S. Census as well as some sources proprietary to the College Board, Mr. Coleman said.


“If I am going to make room for more of the [poor and minority] students we want to admit and I have a finite number of spaces, then someone has to suffer and that will be privileged kids on the bubble,” he said.




Just throw out the SAT's they are basically doing it anyway
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Something tells me the purpose of this will be to combat the so called white privilege.

All of this is going to get much worse.
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Asians will get screwed the worst

Then white males

Merit get thrown out the window

Not to mention this can be gamed to the max, won’t all people claim they live in the ghetto, are gay, trans, etc., just to get a higher adversity score?

One step closer to the chinese social credit score
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Thanks for the pin!


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Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals."
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5 gold stars

Liberals have brought stupid to new levels unheard of with every hair-brained scheme. How stupid can stupid get?


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Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals."
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A buddy of mine enlisted, and resigned, during the Obama years because, "You don't get promoted unless you're some kind of weirdo." By the time he left the ANG, his base commander was a black lesbian, and everyone on base knew it was a joke. There were dozens of people more qualified than she to run the operation.

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5 gold stars

Liberals have brought stupid to new levels unheard of with every hair-brained scheme. How stupid can stupid get?

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It’s been going on for years, now they just made it official


The first year drop out rate will sky rocket when these kids can’t make the grade
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more skullduggery to remove whites from the institutions their ancestors created.
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Yes adversity can negatively impact grades and learning but that doesn't mean the student should be admitted over someone with better grades who happened to have the good fortune of living in affluent circumstances. The poor person with the poorer grades will most likely be far behind their peers academically and the poor person will struggle to keep up with their more privileged peers at elite schools. Yes it is unfair but so is putting students who are not academically prepared into elite schools where standards are higher. What ends up happening is the poor person drops out because it will take years to catch up academically and university is not the place for students reading at grade 8 level no matter if they are poor and black.


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They have names. They have addresses.
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The College Board plans to assign an adversity score to every student who takes the SAT to try to capture their social and economic background, jumping into the debate raging over race and class in college admissions.

This new number, called an adversity score by college admissions officers, is calculated using 15 factors including the crime rate and poverty levels from the student’s high school and neighborhood. Students won’t be told the scores, but colleges will see the numbers when reviewing their applications.


An adversity score of 50 is average. Anything above it designates hardship, below it privilege.

The College Board declined to say how it calculates the adversity score or weighs the factors that go into it. The data that informs the score comes from public records such as the U.S. Census as well as some sources proprietary to the College Board, Mr. Coleman said.


“If I am going to make room for more of the [poor and minority] students we want to admit and I have a finite number of spaces, then someone has to suffer and that will be privileged kids on the bubble,” he said.





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"adversity score " = Preferences/Quotas, already deemed unconstitutional by the courts.
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Yes adversity can negatively impact grades and learning but that doesn't mean the student should be admitted over someone with better grades who happened to have the good fortune of living in affluent circumstances. The poor person with the poorer grades will most likely be far behind their peers academically and the poor person will struggle to keep up with their more privileged peers at elite schools. Yes it is unfair but so is putting students who are not academically prepared into elite schools where standards are higher. What ends up happening is the poor person drops out because it will take years to catch up academically and university is not the place for students reading at grade 8 level no matter if they are poor and black.


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Tom Sowell used to rail on that issue. It makes no sense to put some kid who would do just fine at UC-Santa Cruz in at Stanford as an affirmative action student, just to ease Stanford's admissions board's troubled soul. You're setting that kid up to fail and it's not fair to him or the the kid who should have gotten in to Stanford in his place. This is why they create Minorty/Gender Studies programs, to make it easier to bury what would otherwise be total failure of the affirmative action system.
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Lori Loughlin could have saved 500k and moved her dummies into a poor district.
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Lori Loughlin could have saved 500k and moved her dummies into a poor district.
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IKR?
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They have names. They have addresses.
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Yes adversity can negatively impact grades and learning but that doesn't mean the student should be admitted over someone with better grades who happened to have the good fortune of living in affluent circumstances. The poor person with the poorer grades will most likely be far behind their peers academically and the poor person will struggle to keep up with their more privileged peers at elite schools. Yes it is unfair but so is putting students who are not academically prepared into elite schools where standards are higher. What ends up happening is the poor person drops out because it will take years to catch up academically and university is not the place for students reading at grade 8 level no matter if they are poor and black.


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Tom Sowell used to rail on that issue. It makes no sense to put some kid who would do just fine at UC-Santa Cruz in at Stanford as an affirmative action student, just to ease Stanford's admissions board's troubled soul. You're setting that kid up to fail and it's not fair to him or the the kid who should have gotten in to Stanford in his place. This is why they create Minorty/Gender Studies programs, to make it easier to bury what would otherwise be total failure of the affirmative action system.
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Very true and hopefully Trump puts a stop to this nonsense for everyone's sake.
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I'm shocked the commies still insist on using SATs and ACTs, they're mentally unhealthy for the snowflakes. What if they don't score well? Why not just let everyone go to post secondary where ever they feel like they should go regardless of grades and without test scores?
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I'm shocked the commies still insist on using SATs and ACTs, they're mentally unhealthy for the snowflakes. What if they don't score well? Why not just let everyone go to post secondary where ever they feel like they should go regardless of grades and without test scores?
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This will be the next step.....

Like the Chinese social credit scoring which we are inching towards

They are breaking the concept in for the sheep who think merit based is racist

SATS and ACTS have no bearing now on admittance, all that matters is your adversity score



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Crap like this has an already long and storied history. In the Army promotion game, we were told that "we don't have quotas; we have diversity goals."
 Quoting: Where Eagles Dare


A buddy of mine enlisted, and resigned, during the Obama years because, "You don't get promoted unless you're some kind of weirdo." By the time he left the ANG, his base commander was a black lesbian, and everyone on base knew it was a joke. There were dozens of people more qualified than she to run the operation.
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Meanwhile in Russia and China the most qualified gets the job. Which kind wins wars? In the British Empire and all throughout the History of Western Civilization there tons of gay rulers and generals who climbed the ranks through merit.
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Please, let this be a joke...

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How in the world do you

(a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced,

(b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then

(c) hide the formula’s results from the kid?



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Obviously a whole industry is going to bloom that will help kids get a more favorable "adversity" score.
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Are you:

Asian
White
Male
Middle income-wealthy
Over achiever
High GPA
Didn’t eat school provided meals
Live in a nice area


Then you are:

banbutton

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How in the world do you

(a) create a formula to determine how much “adversity” a 17-year-old has faced,

(b) using only school-level and neighborhood-level data, not personal data, and then

(c) hide the formula’s results from the kid?



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Obviously a whole industry is going to bloom that will help kids get a more favorable "adversity" score.
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Yep
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This has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

I went to High School with kids who came from disadvantaged homes and some of them were super bright and went on to get really great scholarships based on scholastic merit and ACT/SAT scores. Their merit wasn't based on their disadvantage, it was based on their ability to overcome adversity and still succeed.
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