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TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/16/2019 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe wow!! that is some artwork in his book! i remember reading jung in college and he was fixated on mandalas - drew them constantly from what i remember - but never saw such beautiful drawings of his like these Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38768340 seems now jung was genius at more than one kind of art - add paintings to his list If you read his books, you would understand mandalas are used as a healing tool. . Also Jung did not refer to them as "art". This distinction never made sense to me until we connect it with OP's hypothesis that it is predictive of natural future events and not merely aesthetic attempts. (of course we can bundle the disciplines of art, science, religion etc. in a holistic sense - individuation implies this) You make an extremely important point for the thread, here. As I said earlier in my intro...Carl Jung did NOT compile the "art" that appears in THE RED BOOK. These were just a collection of random papers and some were already famous images Jung did share in his life...placed in a bank vault for decades which his heirs were to inherit after his death. There were no "after death" wishes reported by Jung for how these things were to be used--which is great for his enemies who would love to use it for a "marketing weapon" (to ruin the reputation of not only Carl Jung, himself, but the whole body of research and establishment for the "talking cure" (non-drug approach to mental illness) in favor of the BIG PHARMA chemical straight-jackets gaining more approval in treatments.) The heirs were gradually coerced/convinced (for financial gain--not to further Carl Jung's important work in my pinion) ...turned it all over to an art dealer and group of people who saw these images as their own personal "treasure" without even realizing that some of these very intimate paintings were Jung's own "very PRIVATE therapy sessions" and not meant for anyone's eyes except his own or maybe close family members. While some people will treat THE RED BOOK with greatest empathy, admiration and respect (like the fellow in the video below)...many LACK CONTEXT for what the images Jung created were meant to do for his own subconscious integration of things he had shared with Velikovski. While "nightmare-ish" they do NOT indicate anything like psychosis or a disturbed mental condition (if you "get" THE CONTEXT of global natural disaster) as these new articles imply. Even knowing Jung reported having a personal "vision" of a global catastrophe shortly before his death goes miles for understanding what the correct context for many of the images were meant to convey. (video in this thread.) [link to youtu.be (secure)] "Virtual Tour of Carl Jung's THE RED BOOK" with a major "fan" of Jung's work. It just shows the true "lack of empathy" for their genius relative that they would take personal diaries and extremely personal "therapy art"--NOT commerical art--exposing it to the world for what has obviously become misinterpeted CONTEXT for these images. I guess you can be a famous and intelligent person like Jung and have heirs who are "dumb as ROCKS." I would bet he agonized about not having relatives who might betray his privacy after his death for profit and the almighty dollar. Apparently, from articles about Jung that I have read over the years, an original experience--in a fateful walk with his Minister father--they saw the disturbing sight of innocent victims of a flood which was a profound experience for the young Carl Jung. (I'm sorry I don't have a link or date for the flood info) but Jung had a personal interest in natural disasters (maybe inspired by the dead bodies he saw as a child.) He was an incredibly compassionate man and with the influence of Velikovski's planetary "doom" in his life it would seem that he may have been trying to do "remote-viewing" even back in his day (before things like "The Looking Glass Project" here in the U.S. during the 90's and 2000's.) There has also been some speculation that he had some skills in clairvoyance which would be very useful in helping his patients get to the "events" which caused them personal trauma. This would explain his profound experience of "synchronicity" (also a term Jung coined during his career) the day a beautiful beetle appeared on the window of his office building while he was relating a story to a client about the Egyptian God/Goddess "Khepra." Imagine being Jung's patient and having this golden beetle suddenly appear on the window, underscoring what Jung is reporting to you about resurrection and Egyptian mythology. That would be so awesome! I wonder if Jung told her it was a "sign?" [link to youtu.be (secure)] A short clip about the Scarab Beetle in ancient Egyptian mythology Thanks for the post. TheOracle'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/20/2019 03:31 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/16/2019 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe What's the Matter with Bob is one of your favorite movies? It's "What about Bob?" I dont get it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76706522 Jung is something special though. Oops! Thanks I will change the title! I can see how that might be confusing...unless you watched the trailer in my intro! lol! Jung is one of my all time heroes...and I grieve for both Jung and Velikovsky that they were forced (by the "Good Old Boy Club" of stoic scientists of their time) to keep their friendship a secret for fear of its impact on Jung's budding new field of Analytical Psychology. It is even more MIND-BLOWING that people who have analyzed the collection of Jung's "unpublished artwork and manuscripts" in THE RED BOOK could be looking at it TOTALLY OUT OF CONTEXT for the insights it could have given for "catastrophic astronomy/geology" which are now viable sciences in their own class. (See Steinbacher's geology videos--just brilliant!) Rather many suggested his paintings showed a "disturbed mind" since they did not realize Velikovsky was feeding Jung catastrophic earth history with information NOT public during either of their lifetimes. Indeed, Jung is "special" and someone needs to stand up to these "psuedo art historians" to let them know that Jung's RED BOOK was never meant to be published by the founder of this great science...shame on his heirs who wished to profit from his personal journals and drawings. (I wonder if Jung ever did a painting showing "family greed!") O'sCookie Your thoughts as to why the was published(judging their intentions) could be off by a mile.... Would you rather this never be seen... Is you felt there was significant information, say about the electric universe in the red book that was being g suppressed in the world, might you allow the book and images to be published... In whatever fashion necessary.... Now you have this in your hands... And you are doing a great job deciphering what COULD be available info buried within... Thank you... But also be less critical until you walk a mile in their shoes I appreciate your taking "the Devil's advocate" side in this discussion...and I have already thought about what you are asking me as I compose the thread. I'll give you my "take-away." First of all, remember that Jung did not create the RED BOOK volume of his paintings/writings for commercial publication. The project was an undertaking after his death and without his important guidance for such a representation of his life and his most "intimate" emotional state. THIS is critical to the whole issue of whether or not Jung, himself, would approve of the RED BOOK in the form in which it is available right now. Of course, it isn't too difficult to see that I personally DO NOT believe Carl Jung would have approved of the material in the RED BOOK --mainly because it was his very personal diaries and intimate subconscious paintings (maybe that he placed the material in a BANK VAULT "under lock=and=key" for many decades for his heirs alone...is a CLUE and tells us something about Jung's intentions for this material...you think?) The book was the effort of the Jungian Society and art dealers (who didn't know the context for Velikovski's influence on his great genius--thus the CONTEXT IS MISSING in many of these painting) and sets up a debate about Jung's mental state by people/corporations who have an "agenda" to undermine his version of psychological therapy in favor of "chemical straight-jackets" and masking medicines which actually do more harm than assisting the client in healing. IF THEY HAD EMPATHY for Jung's very personal "therapy art" they would have at least given the information about his important friendship which influenced many of the paintings (I believe this would have saved a great deal of DEBATE right now...over whether or not Carl Jung has a "mental illness"--as this "take" certainly does ZERO FAVORS for the current dedicated men and women who are Jungian Therapists and in general for the important work Analytical Psychology has done over the years...nor for his reputation after-the-fact. Just read one or two of these subtle attack "science journal" articles for yourself and tell me if you feel they are using the RED BOOK as a weapon! Here's one for you (just the first paragraph of the article--quoted below--ASSUMES from the beginning that "everyone agrees Carl Jung had a mental psychosis...so here's what you need to know about (our lie!)": [link to psychcentral.com (secure)] [Quote less than 50%] As the founder of one of the most influential schools of psychological thought — analytical psychology — Carl Jung (also known as CG Jung) experienced what today we might call a form of psychosis. It probably wasn’t a complete psychotic break, because Jung still functioned in his daily life. [End quote] I'm sorry but I don't think I am being overly critical in this thread toward what I believe is the "ultimate agenda" in certain parties USING IMAGES IN THE RED BOOK to bash Jung's state of mental health (more than likely BIG PHARMA) ...AND I do think I have been more than empathetic with "walking in their shoes." Thanks for your challenge. O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/16/2019 05:14 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22391810 New Zealand 11/16/2019 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe EDITED: 11-15-2019 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie Go ahead...google it yourself...Articles are coming out now that Freud's creative genius protoge, creator of the concept "The collective unconscious" and artist Carl Jung... may have been NUTS! (Hey! I'm just the messenger here, and of course, I DISAGREE mightily!) Here is the latest I can find on a quick search (do one yourself!) Here's a link: [link to psychcentral.com (secure)] :WAT CRAB: [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: OFFICIAL TRAILER the movie "What About Bob?" There are all kinds of movies out there about psychiatrists...but this one sticks out as my favorite with BOTH the patient (Bill Murray) and the doctor being slightly "on-the-fritz!" Richard Dryfus and Bill Murray are a hilarious team for this movie where we see Dryfus (Dr. Marvin) worried about his standing among the psychiatric community when a truly dedicated "patient" (Bill Murray as Bob) follows him on vacation in an effort to continue his therapy --uninterrupted even by Dr. Marvin's vacation--and begins to stalk him. There were MOMENTS when the "shrink" was more crazy than his patient--but I don't think it lasted too long! While it is a great topic for a comedy...preserving one's reputation (even if challenged by a nutty client) at ANY of the higher levels of science is a real worry for many professionals called-on-the-carpet for any new theories which fly in the face of the existing "status quo." We saw this in the thread on Douglas Vogt's new revelation about our sun having a 12,000 year cycle at which point it has either a minor or a major solar micro-nova. This is being challenged right now in the science circles as we have heard from Ben Davidson at Suspicious Observers. Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Vogt and Davidson have even been accused of having REAL LIFE "Cassandra Complexes!" (Where have we head this before?) Well...if you are a Carl Jung fan--it appears that Carl Jung is currently being scrutinized for the same reason! So now...Carl Jung "coined" "THE CASSANDRA COMPLEX" ...because he HAD ONE HIMSELF? :TrippyPillowHug: A MAJOR "soft disclosure" (12-2018 ON GLP HOSTED with "ADRAGON") by researcher Dr. Douglas Vogt has brought to our attention NEW INFORMATION about the "secret history of Earth" (which Velikovsky and others after him attempted to bring forward to a stoic mainstream science community in the 60's) Now..."Armed" with this new theory, we can see how it gives a NEW BREATH to the remarkable symbolism contained in Dr. Jung's "Catastrophe Art" (my own term for Jung's bizaar painting) in Jung's "RED BOOK" published after his death. (*I've coined the phrase, "Catastrophe Art" as given this new info uncovered as an exclusive for the GLP Community will prove Immanuel Velikovsky most certainly conveyed "end of the world scenarios" to his friend Dr. Jung which inspired some of his artwork) and also inspired a new thread.: Thread: Dr. Carl Jung's "Catastrophe-Art" Meets Velikovski, Vogt, Davidson and the Solar Micro-Nova--Did Jung KNOW? AND ALSO: Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, MUST WATCH FOR THIS THREAD'S TOPIC: Part 1: [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: and Part 2: [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: KEEP IN YOUR MIND'S-EYE INFO/IMAGES FROM THE 2 VIDEOS POSTED ABOVE...THEN LOOK "WITH NEW EYES" AT CARL JUNG'S ART! A SHORT TOUR THROUGH "THE RED BOOK" (JUNG'S PAINTINGS) THESE ARE THE "SMOKING GUN PAINTINGS" BY CARL JUNG SHOWING THAT...HE KNEW WHAT VELIKOVSKY KNEW! :2carlJungzCatypi: END OF EDITS SECTION -------------------------------------------- "Hey! Did you guys feel THAT?" What was that...Another 8 pt. quake in Indonesia...A huge gamma ray burst? What the heck?" ANSWER: No...Not a quake! It's a few 1,000 Carl Jung fans running to their local bookstores for a REFUND (some are $300-500+) for the misinterpretation of his original artwork in "The Red Book!" So...just like the movie "What About Bob?"...we can ask: "What About Carl (Jung?)" [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: OFFICIAL TRAILER FOR "WHAT ABOUT BOB?" The movie (above) is what most people's exposure to psychiatry (who have not had the personal joy of actually working with one personally) with their ideas shaped by "shrinks in movies" (and their nutty patients) from mainstream Hollywood. Richard Dryfus plays the classic Freudian Psychiatrist (Dr. Marvin)--a spin off of Kelsey Grammar's "Frasier" series from 1993-2004 which came first--while Bill Murray plays the wacko "Bob" who is so keen on having a resolution to his "phobias" he can't wait for the good doctor to finish his trip and stalks the him creating a hilarious vacation farce. It's a great flick...even if a little misleading about doctor/patient relationships. But let's look at a REAL "shrink"...Carl Jung who has had some run-ins lately with mainstream psychiatry (the chemical straight-jacket providers) in what I believe is an "agenda" by Big Pharma to change our view of traditional "talking cures" like Analytical Psychology inspired by Jung in favor of their "A.B.C. named chemical "fixes." January 1, 2015 I hosted this thread for the GLP family: Thread: Big UPDATE pg 7!!Part 2. The "Father of Modern Psychology," Carl Jung Kept Planetary "Doom" Secret for 80 years! Update/Warning se In the thread above I came across an amazing video--a Tour of Carl Jung's RED BOOK --to see very personal and private artwork created (but NOT explained) by the genius of Carl Jung during his life. This book, The Red Book --an effort to profit by revealing personal diaries and artwork by Jung's heirs and certain art dealers who compiled the book (it was never an actual creation by Carl Jung himself--hence explains the reason the artwork was MISUNDERSTOOD and misinterpreted.) Look at the video presenation of Jung's artwork and tell me (keeping in mind the theories in the EDITS section as you look) if you don't see very accurate symbolic presentations in the paintings of things that look like space weather disasters! For an example, doesn't this painting (found in The RED BOOK) seem to be depicting the day of a solar micro-nova as Vogt/Davidson describe it? I don't think this is just a "sunny day...I'm ready for a picnic theme!" Jung didn't just paint "pretty pictures"--these were done as "personal and private therapy" to attempt to integrate into his own subconscious mind images Velikovsky would have shared that were too scary for him reconcile in his waking thoughts. (Even his own heirs--who we can't actually be sure knew what it was the Velikovsky shared with their relative before he died--probably didn't realize Jung wouldn't have wanted those paintings compiled into a commercial book.) :JungzKPindex4: [link to youtu.be (secure)] :FairUSE: A "Virtual Tour of Carl Jung's The RED BOOK. Shortly after this video, I stumbled across a very unflattering article on Carl Jung in Psychology Today suggesting that Jung, himself, might be mentally ill. Psychology Today called Carl Jung "Disturbed" and haunted by "Demons" for his Red Book (catastrophe) Art! [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] Here is a very recent quote from the first link in the Edits (above) that is actually hard to believe MADE IT INTO PRINT and wasn't scratched out in red ink by the magazine's editor! How on earth do they come up with this stuff? (No...I do NOT believe this to be the truth about Jung--it is classic "yellow journalism!") [link to psychcentral.com (secure)] [Less than 50%] Over the course of 16 years, Jung recorded everything he experienced in these unconscious journeys. Some of the material ended up filling 205 large pages in the red book. The book consists of intricate, colorful, wildly detailed drawings and writings. “The Red Book,” as it was later called, stayed locked up in a vault after Jung’s death. It was finally published in 2009 as The Red Book and is now available for sale. The New York Times describes the story told by the Red Book: The book tells the story of Jung trying to face down his own demons as they emerged from the shadows. The results are humiliating, sometimes unsavory. In it, Jung travels the land of the dead, falls in love with a woman he later realizes is his sister, gets squeezed by a giant serpent and, in one terrifying moment, eats the liver of a little child. [End Quote] Continued on Post #2 Read Carl Jung's Red Book. It is obvious he was nuts and he told his family not to publish it or reveal what was in it until after his death because he knew everyone would think he was nuts after reading it. All the psych people have profound mental illness they tried to cover up. So obvious when you research them and their field. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/16/2019 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe I have noticed this trend to downplay Jung and raise up Freud, I was shocked as a Psych major to see that Keira Knightley movie: A Dangerous Method supposedly all about Jung being an unbelievable S&M sicko sex pervert and Freud was the High moral hero stuck on spiritual healing when it's just the opposite!! Freud was an unbelievable pervert, he was BI, had incest with his father & had many prostitutes. Everything about Freud is ego & sex, Jung raised it up to mental illness being about spiritual crisis but I see as usual knowing Feuds ethic background, history will be changed and Jung probably deleted soon Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76863067 Freud may have represented Kronos/Saturn; the old one who ate his children. (Jung) Even Jung's name suggests the child, while Freud's name suggests joy, but not love; more like a Saturnian Santa with a dark side. His Krampus side. Freud hated the way Jung usurped his high position as the foremost Western psychologist and feared that Jung wanted to kill him, which was a massive projection. The major philosophical difference between the two was the Freudian atheism/reductionism vs. the Jungian metaphysics and holism. All of the world's God affirming theologies hold an Aristotelian concept of the four causes. The atheists reduce this to three causes by eliminating the 4th cause; the telos, or reason for a thing to exist. [link to www.etymonline.com (secure)] Interesting. Thanks for this info! O'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/16/2019 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe EDITED: 11-15-2019 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie Go ahead...google it yourself...Articles are coming out now that Freud's creative genius protoge, creator of the concept "The collective unconscious" and artist Carl Jung... may have been NUTS! (Hey! I'm just the messenger here, and of course, I DISAGREE mightily!) Here is the latest I can find on a quick search (do one yourself!) Here's a link: [link to psychcentral.com (secure)] [link to youtu.be (secure)] OFFICIAL TRAILER the movie "What About Bob?" There are all kinds of movies out there about psychiatrists...but this one sticks out as my favorite with BOTH the patient (Bill Murray) and the doctor being slightly "on-the-fritz!" Richard Dryfus and Bill Murray are a hilarious team for this movie where we see Dryfus (Dr. Marvin) worried about his standing among the psychiatric community when a truly dedicated "patient" (Bill Murray as Bob) follows him on vacation in an effort to continue his therapy --uninterrupted even by Dr. Marvin's vacation--and begins to stalk him. There were MOMENTS when the "shrink" was more crazy than his patient--but I don't think it lasted too long! While it is a great topic for a comedy...preserving one's reputation (even if challenged by a nutty client) at ANY of the higher levels of science is a real worry for many professionals called-on-the-carpet for any new theories which fly in the face of the existing "status quo." We saw this in the thread on Douglas Vogt's new revelation about our sun having a 12,000 year cycle at which point it has either a minor or a major solar micro-nova. This is being challenged right now in the science circles as we have heard from Ben Davidson at Suspicious Observers. Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Vogt and Davidson have even been accused of having REAL LIFE "Cassandra Complexes!" (Where have we head this before?) Well...if you are a Carl Jung fan--it appears that Carl Jung is currently being scrutinized for the same reason! So now...Carl Jung "coined" "THE CASSANDRA COMPLEX" ...because he HAD ONE HIMSELF? A MAJOR "soft disclosure" (12-2018 ON GLP HOSTED with "ADRAGON") by researcher Dr. Douglas Vogt has brought to our attention NEW INFORMATION about the "secret history of Earth" (which Velikovsky and others after him attempted to bring forward to a stoic mainstream science community in the 60's) Now..."Armed" with this new theory, we can see how it gives a NEW BREATH to the remarkable symbolism contained in Dr. Jung's "Catastrophe Art" (my own term for Jung's bizaar painting) in Jung's "RED BOOK" published after his death. (*I've coined the phrase, "Catastrophe Art" as given this new info uncovered as an exclusive for the GLP Community will prove Immanuel Velikovsky most certainly conveyed "end of the world scenarios" to his friend Dr. Jung which inspired some of his artwork) and also inspired a new thread.: Thread: Dr. Carl Jung's "Catastrophe-Art" Meets Velikovski, Vogt, Davidson and the Solar Micro-Nova--Did Jung KNOW? AND ALSO: Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, MUST WATCH FOR THIS THREAD'S TOPIC: Part 1: [link to youtu.be (secure)] and Part 2: [link to youtu.be (secure)] KEEP IN YOUR MIND'S-EYE INFO/IMAGES FROM THE 2 VIDEOS POSTED ABOVE...THEN LOOK "WITH NEW EYES" AT CARL JUNG'S ART! A SHORT TOUR THROUGH "THE RED BOOK" (JUNG'S PAINTINGS) THESE ARE THE "SMOKING GUN PAINTINGS" BY CARL JUNG SHOWING THAT...HE KNEW WHAT VELIKOVSKY KNEW! END OF EDITS SECTION -------------------------------------------- "Hey! Did you guys feel THAT?" What was that...Another 8 pt. quake in Indonesia...A huge gamma ray burst? What the heck?" ANSWER: No...Not a quake! It's a few 1,000 Carl Jung fans running to their local bookstores for a REFUND (some are $300-500+) for the misinterpretation of his original artwork in "The Red Book!" So...just like the movie "What About Bob?"...we can ask: "What About Carl (Jung?)" [link to youtu.be (secure)] OFFICIAL TRAILER FOR "WHAT ABOUT BOB?" The movie (above) is what most people's exposure to psychiatry (who have not had the personal joy of actually working with one personally) with their ideas shaped by "shrinks in movies" (and their nutty patients) from mainstream Hollywood. Richard Dryfus plays the classic Freudian Psychiatrist (Dr. Marvin)--a spin off of Kelsey Grammar's "Frasier" series from 1993-2004 which came first--while Bill Murray plays the wacko "Bob" who is so keen on having a resolution to his "phobias" he can't wait for the good doctor to finish his trip and stalks the him creating a hilarious vacation farce. It's a great flick...even if a little misleading about doctor/patient relationships. But let's look at a REAL "shrink"...Carl Jung who has had some run-ins lately with mainstream psychiatry (the chemical straight-jacket providers) in what I believe is an "agenda" by Big Pharma to change our view of traditional "talking cures" like Analytical Psychology inspired by Jung in favor of their "A.B.C. named chemical "fixes." January 1, 2015 I hosted this thread for the GLP family: Thread: Big UPDATE pg 7!!Part 2. The "Father of Modern Psychology," Carl Jung Kept Planetary "Doom" Secret for 80 years! Update/Warning se In the thread above I came across an amazing video--a Tour of Carl Jung's RED BOOK --to see very personal and private artwork created (but NOT explained) by the genius of Carl Jung during his life. This book, The Red Book --an effort to profit by revealing personal diaries and artwork by Jung's heirs and certain art dealers who compiled the book (it was never an actual creation by Carl Jung himself--hence explains the reason the artwork was MISUNDERSTOOD and misinterpreted.) Look at the video presenation of Jung's artwork and tell me (keeping in mind the theories in the EDITS section as you look) if you don't see very accurate symbolic presentations in the paintings of things that look like space weather disasters! For an example, doesn't this painting (found in The RED BOOK) seem to be depicting the day of a solar micro-nova as Vogt/Davidson describe it? I don't think this is just a "sunny day...I'm ready for a picnic theme!" Jung didn't just paint "pretty pictures"--these were done as "personal and private therapy" to attempt to integrate into his own subconscious mind images Velikovsky would have shared that were too scary for him reconcile in his waking thoughts. (Even his own heirs--who we can't actually be sure knew what it was the Velikovsky shared with their relative before he died--probably didn't realize Jung wouldn't have wanted those paintings compiled into a commercial book.) [link to youtu.be (secure)] A "Virtual Tour of Carl Jung's The RED BOOK. Shortly after this video, I stumbled across a very unflattering article on Carl Jung in Psychology Today suggesting that Jung, himself, might be mentally ill. Psychology Today called Carl Jung "Disturbed" and haunted by "Demons" for his Red Book (catastrophe) Art! [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] Here is a very recent quote from the first link in the Edits (above) that is actually hard to believe MADE IT INTO PRINT and wasn't scratched out in red ink by the magazine's editor! How on earth do they come up with this stuff? (No...I do NOT believe this to be the truth about Jung--it is classic "yellow journalism!") [link to psychcentral.com (secure)] [Less than 50%] Over the course of 16 years, Jung recorded everything he experienced in these unconscious journeys. Some of the material ended up filling 205 large pages in the red book. The book consists of intricate, colorful, wildly detailed drawings and writings. “The Red Book,” as it was later called, stayed locked up in a vault after Jung’s death. It was finally published in 2009 as The Red Book and is now available for sale. The New York Times describes the story told by the Red Book: The book tells the story of Jung trying to face down his own demons as they emerged from the shadows. The results are humiliating, sometimes unsavory. In it, Jung travels the land of the dead, falls in love with a woman he later realizes is his sister, gets squeezed by a giant serpent and, in one terrifying moment, eats the liver of a little child. [End Quote] Continued on Post #2 Read Carl Jung's Red Book. It is obvious he was nuts and he told his family not to publish it or reveal what was in it until after his death because he knew everyone would think he was nuts after reading it. All the psych people have profound mental illness they tried to cover up. So obvious when you research them and their field. Um...o.k. Good luck with that "take-away." I'm assuming this is a personal assessment and not something that can be verified with a link or publication of some kind. I've been searching the internet for videos or statements by ANY of his heirs or relatives and found only ONE over the few years I've been writing about Jung's The RED BOOK. Do you have something I can see? In the one video I found, the person interviewing asked the question of whether or not Carl Jung had ever told a FAMILY MEMBER that a "natural disaster" was coming for the Earth. The body language was all over the place with an obvious "extreme stress reaction" to the question and a great deal of stuttering and evasiveness in the response. So, I never really came away with any real proof that the heirs knew and didn't know about the Velikovski link in Jung's work. My guess would be THEY KNEW but were instructed very specifically NOT to share this with the world. Just sayin! O'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" 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Deplorable Zenobia User ID: 1392717 United States 11/16/2019 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Nice thread here, O's C!! Will have to come back to it later since I'm just playing catch-up from being unplugged most of the day. Right off the bat, YES, that movie is epic! And yeah, I can actually see how Jung kept something written/recorded as a private journal to work thru' all this personal shit. The Cassandra complex can eat someone inside out. Knowing. Hey, just like Nick Cage's movie called Knowing. 5 s for you, madam!! And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
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TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/16/2019 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Nice thread here, O's C!! Will have to come back to it later since I'm just playing catch-up from being unplugged most of the day. Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia Right off the bat, YES, that movie is epic! And yeah, I can actually see how Jung kept something written/recorded as a private journal to work thru' all this personal shit. The Cassandra complex can eat someone inside out. Knowing. Hey, just like Nick Cage's movie called Knowing. 5 s for you, madam!! Thanks Zenobia! Always good to see ya! Wow! I totally agree that Nicholas Cage's movie "KNOWING" places his character as the ULTIMATE "Cassandra Complex Holder!" He tries to even warn his own father...but the Dad is just "old school" and responds: "I am ready to Go (to be with my God)...what will be will be!" Here is an official trailer for this film. I have to warn some folks that it is a slightly "doomy" movie, however it does have a "hopeful" end. I just don't wish to "give up" on planet Earth just yet! [link to youtu.be (secure)] Official Trailer for the movie "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage (from "National Treasure") Cage examins the "numerology pattern" of listed events, dates and longitude and longitude locations for coming disasters. This one movie did more for legitimizing numerology than 100s of years of "fortune tellers!" O'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/17/2019 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe reminds me of what I would paint if someone said..."Try painting someone concerned about the health effects of "Cosmic Rays" and the weakening of our magnetic fields (when the KP Index flat-lines like I reported in this thread last week:) Thread: Up-date Pg.10: Health Warning as KP-Index 11-02-19 stays ZERO for 30 hours--Strokes/Heart Attack/Emotional UpTicks. Video Check out the Schumann Resonance (it's a white-out today!) [link to sosrff.tsu.ru] This site reports gamma ray bursts (we had a very strong and long-duration GRB yesterday--some people were reporting (check it out) that yesterday's GRB from Constellation Cygnus had health effects that they noticed:) [link to earthboppin.net] Remember, Jung DID NOT intend for these paintings to be used commercially. They are not "classic art" in the sense that a person would paint something he would like others to see...these images are drawn as "THERAPY" to help someone with a fear, personal concern or "issue" integrate some event or trauma into their subconscious mind with the "exercise of creating." Jung suggested this art therapy to his clients and obviously did this for himself. Given that Jung would have painted this as "therapy" we can assume the theme to this painting might be concerns about radiation health effects (or "gamma ray energies from GRBs/CME's from the sun.) Jung was also very concerned about nuclear war. of course, with the "dot" at the forehead we could be looking at Jung's creating an image about the pineal gland as a subject, however the giant head sits above the background of the countryside so we might assume Jung in thinking about a "space event." This is why CONTEXT is so important in the compilation of random images and diary notes...and was missing from the The RED BOOK (deliberately?) Here is the graphic from S.O. on what the health risks are for exposure to various "exotic energies" which the KP INDEX will show as "spikes" on the chart. However, a flat-lined KP Index is bad because it lets most of the "exotic rays" reach the ground and can cause havoc for "energy sensitives" (we call it "energy flu")...or strokes or heart attacks for seniors. Rumors on the Forum Board tonight have it that President Trump may have had a heart problem "scare" today and checked it out at an unscheduled stop at a military hospital. Interesting timing for this health "episode" (if there was one) to happen after a large gamma ray burst report. Thread: Donald Trump has unexpectedly gone to Walter Reed hospital – and something doesn’t add up and Thread: Rumors of Trump having chest pains. O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/17/2019 12:02 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/17/2019 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe nothing new, whoever red them had the impression they were mental Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77427388 Commercial "ART" can be interpretted by the viewer easily as long as they have a CONTEXT for what the image the artist is trying to convey to his audiance. But the "art" in Carl Jung's THE RED BOOK was compiled AFTER his death and those compiling the various loose papers, diaries and what Jung used as "therapy artwork" that came out of a bank vault for his heirs totally lacks CONTEXT to be able to be understood correctly, AC.7388! It is possible Jung's heirs didn't even know the extent of the information (some of which is still "classified" by the CIA as we saw with "The Adam and Eve Story" for what Velikovsky would have known as an "insider" at upper tiers of science in the 50's and 60's...and which carries a great emotional burden to embrace.) The "misunderstanding" of what is "ART" and what is in fact "PRIVATE THERAPY DRAWINGS/PAINTINGS"--kept secret for some 80 years (and not originally meant to be commercial art) in Jung's case is lending misunderstood interpretations and to a very real "attack" of not only his reputation, and his mental state, but the wonderful body of research and theory he is credited for bringing to the world. The "misunderstanding" of what is "ART" and what is in fact "PRIVATE THERAPY DRAWING/PAINTING"--(and not originally meant to be commercial art) in Jung's case is leading to a very real "attack" of not only his reputation, but the wonderful body of research and theory he is credited for bringing to the world. (I suggest this is a diliberate "smear campaign" but well get to that next.) YOU ALSO ARE NOT LOOKING AT AN "AGENDA" (BY YOUR COMMENT!) I believe that part of this new "Gee...let's all agree Carl Jung was mentally ill" smear campaign is the general COMPETITION (which has HUGE REVENUE INTERESTS AT STAKE) between traditional "talking cures" of psychiatry/psychology and the BIG PHARMA mega-take-over of what's termed "the chemical-straightjacket" (treating mental conditions with a "band-aide" of chemicals/pills rather than a genuine effort to meet people one-on-one with a qualified professtional.) It's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! So at first glance, a thread about "juicy NEW DIRT" dug up on a famous personality like Carl Jung being "mental" (who actually represents THE WHOLE FIELD OF traditional treatment of mental illness/trauma with one-on-one personal treatment in Jung's Analytical Psychiatry) and his having been strongly INFLUENCED by a famous "rogue scientist" (Immanuel Velikovsky) so his personal "THERAPY ART" is disturbed or "doomy" and his THE RED BOOK as "proof" for this conclusion--we need to be vigilant in trying to see WHO BENEFITS from convincing the public (right NOW) that Jung was "mentally ill?" WHAT'S THE MONEY SAY? Certainly, the misunderstanding of Jung's personal therapy art to HIDE his friendship with a scientist that many mainstream scientists still find a THREAT (Velikovsky) we can't lose sight of the fact that Jung's reputation, his theories and his incredible genius NEED our support. Or we run the risk of adding just another level of PROGRAMMING we accept from BIG PHARMA and others who would attack this great body of research and this man without QUESTION. QUESTION THINGS THAT "DON'T ADD UP!" Because "there's a PONY under...ALL those alligators!" P.S. My vote is that corporate sponsors (like BIG PHARMA) (BIG MEDICINE) are the ones behind the smear campaign on Carl Jung--these are the only ones who would benefit by the public turning away from the "traditional talking-cures" of Analytic Psychology AND OTHER NON-DRUG-BASED THERAPIES. O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/17/2019 07:50 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
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Deplorable Zenobia User ID: 1392717 United States 11/17/2019 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Damn. Now we know why shamans and those type of folks dropped Peyote tea or did their Ayahuasca trips. That was all before there ever was big pharma and all that. Heavy thread, O's C. Funny enough but today I went to art galleries. Walked into an artist's studio who was not there but his art was real interesting. Made me think of this particular thread, 'oh wow! I've walked up into someone using his art to slay his dragons just like Jung did!' And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/18/2019 01:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Damn. Now we know why shamans and those type of folks dropped Peyote tea or did their Ayahuasca trips. That was all before there ever was big pharma and all that. Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia Heavy thread, O's C. Funny enough but today I went to art galleries. Walked into an artist's studio who was not there but his art was real interesting. Made me think of this particular thread, 'oh wow! I've walked up into someone using his art to slay his dragons just like Jung did!' ...An Art Gallery! How fun is THAT? Yeah...this topic is a little "heavy" for sure. But it is something that needs to be said--Carl Jung deserves to have at least ONE VOICE in support of his reputation...and SOMEONE out there to counter these nasty articles about his having some kind of psychosis. It's rediculous! I really do not know how a person could actually go about doing investigative journalism into PROVING that BIG PHARMA is behind these articles smearing Carl Jung. I guess if you could find some incriminating evidence...like finding a CANCELED CHECK (from an agent of BIG PHARMA) in the bank account of one of the writers who wrote that nasty article about Jung being NUTS...THAT would be the "smoking gun." Right? But right now, all I can say is that THERE IS A REASON why these kinds of articles are popping up about this great man and IF YOU FOLLOW THE MONEY you could see some kind of MOTIVE behind it all. Certainly the logical direction to look would just be to ask yourself...who would benefit most if public opinion TURNED AGAINST Jung and the type of psychological treatment he used--which is a "talking cure" rather than a chemical straight-jacket PUSHING EXPENSIVE PSYCH DRUGS to "mask" mental illness rather than to cure it you would have your answer. I DID FIND THIS ARTICLE (that's somewhat related) which goes into the concerns some people have about HOW mental illness is diagnosed--generally used (thanks to the insurance companies)--using the manual of mental illness outlines called the DMSIII. Some think this is way way too uninclusive and "simplifies" many conditions that don't really have a formal recognition in this relatively new diagnostic tool! Here is an excerpt from an article I just found: [link to stop-dsm.com (secure)] [Less than 50%] In less than thirty years, the “psychoanalytic” generation that received psychiatric training founded on the observation of behaviours has been replaced by the DSM generation which favours normative behaviourist and pharmacological methods as a first response. [End Quote] If you look through the DMSIII (or whatever the current version number is--I don't know) I am all but absolutely SURE that you would not find anything in there that would place a diagnosis of "psychosis" for Carl Jung's "catastrophe art." There just aren't nice little ROUND HOLES for "square" conditions like a Cassandra Complex that can be used in this situation...especially since the "jury" designating the images Jung painted had no context for the "Velikovsky Factor" in his psyche! Thanks for your post--and maybe I could use a trip to an art gallery this week and get away from all the "doom." That would be a good idea! O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/18/2019 02:10 AM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
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TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/18/2019 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. A lot of these guys strike me as being bat shit crazy! Quoting: TrustNoOneKS Um...You realize, don't you, that the premise of my thread is that the "crazy or disturbed label" on Carl Jung is EXACTLY the opposite of what I believe to be true. The title isn't to let you know he WAS NUTS...it is to give you an "ah ha!" moment where you would think the accusation was over-the-top! Did I goof with the title? The suggestion in the science magazines suggesting Jung may have been "mad" are a blatant "smear campaign" (in my mind from BIG PHARMA AND BIG MEDICINE) due to the battle between the non-drug approach to emotional illness (Jung's and Freud's "talking-cure" having NO MEDS) as apposed to BIG PHARMA who are pushing for more and more drug therapy (which only "masks" mental disorders and never cures them.) Hope more folks will read the introduction and not go by the title...maybe I need to make a new thread called: "...The AMAZING "Therapy/catastrophic Art" of the strictly SANE Carl Jung." (I guess I could do that...) Thanks for the post! O'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/18/2019 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe [link to www.carl-jung.net (secure)] I found it an example of "synchronicity"--a concept which Jung is credited with bringing forward to Analytical Psychology. I've been on this topic concerning "Therapy/Catastrophe Art" Jung recommended for his own and his patient's routine exercise (as well as journal keeping) and found the image below. And this morning on one of the GLP threads I happened to notice the comparitive image you can see seems to match Jung's painting. Check it out: Carl Jung coined the whole idea of "synchronicity" and it is always fun to be watching out for this--like the Universe is giving you a little hug and message saying: "Yup! You are on the right Path!" I would suggest this image by Jung--if I were to analyze it IN CONTEXT with the Velikovksy theories as I truly believe he intended for it to represent --is the compassionate concern for the health and future of his relatives/neighbors in his hometown over which the "head" floats as an "event from space" unfolding over Switzerland (in the future.) He may even have had some remote-vision of an accident at CERN in Switzerland as being a trigger for a catastrophic image has anything to do with mythology or the "inner demons" (as suggested in Psychology Today's article)...nor was Jung intending this to be bought and sold as "commercial art" (tho it is part of the collection of art found in his THE RED BOOK. IMHO it is a representation of Jung's LITERAL FEAR of global space-disasters which he would have learned from conversations w/friend, Immanuel Velikovsky. (ANYONE being "secret friends" with Velikovsky would probably need therapy!) The "Therapy/catastrophic Art exercise" (as recommended by Jung to reconcile certain unconscious fears and phobias from the subconscious mind was one of the Hallmark "creative treatments" Carl Jung employed using Analytical Psychology. In addition to asking clients to keep a "personal diary" he wanted them to routinely draw/paint/create collages I.D'ing their worst fears for which they would have sought treatment. (The man with the "supernova" above his head (picture #2) is an original painting Carl Jung created which was included in the RED BOOK. Remember, a cigar is sometimes just a cigar. (It's NOT commercial "art.") The people who totally miss this important part of Jung's own therapy suggestions are the ones, unfortunately, who decided to MARKET AS "COMMERCIAL ART" many of the images contained in the postumous publication of THE RED BOOK. Now, BIG PHARMA and others with an "agenda" are using these images as a weapon against both Jung's reputation and a non-DRUG BASED approach to healing mental illness. Check out this article that appeared in Psychology Today Magazine in 2010 on Jung's reported "hillucinations" as part of THE RED BOOK. [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] [Less than 50%] [link to www.wsj.com (secure)] [link to www.psychologytoday.com (secure)] [Quote Psychology Today article less than 50%] Although Jungians have been quick to downplay any suggestion that the book ["The RED BOOK"]records more than its author's spiritual crisis or a foretaste of his evolving intellectual path, the book, which Jung christened Liber Novus (Latin for "New Book"), documents such matters as his conversations with the winged "Philemon" during his daytime walks. By that point, the Swiss psychiatrist had been treating schizophrenia for several years. And though Shamdasani insists that Jung was engaging in a controlled experiment—"There wasn't anything like a psychosis" —the wrinkle in that story is that Jung's unusual hallucinations appear to have been involuntary. Were they therefore signs of madness? Indeed, it's worth asking whether Jung today would be at risk of receiving the diagnosis "psychosis risk syndrome." The DSM-5 task force is currently formulating the term to include hallucations and delusions. NOTE: Sonu Shamdasani is not a medical psychiatrist but rather the art historian who was tasked with editing and tabulating the finished publication that would be "THE RED BOOK." He was NOT guided by Jung or a family member and did not have "the context" for Velikovsy's "secret friendship with Jung" to assist him in interpreting Jung's "catastrophe Therapy Art." [END Quote] Indeed, it's worth asking whether Jung today would be at risk of receiving the diagnosis "psychosis risk syndrome" (as defined above.) The DSM-5 task force is currently formulating this syndrome to include hallucations and delusions. ("Psychosis Risk Syndrome" is being included in the DMSV now as a REAL illness with insurance carriers able to compensate medical practitioners who use it for covering their clients expenses.) So...essentially even if a client does NOT match any of the other criterea for "mental illness" in the DMSIV Diagnostic Manual--this new definition of a FUTURE problem with the mental health of a patient can be used for insurance/diagnostic purposes! AMAZING! It is a really important distinction between the two art forms we're dealing with here (commercial art versus something never meant to be "marketed" as a PRODUCT! Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/18/2019 06:41 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! 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TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/18/2019 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Part of the "Deep State" perhaps? That would make sense! O'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TrustNoOneKS User ID: 76946759 United States 11/19/2019 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest. A lot of these guys strike me as being bat shit crazy! Quoting: TrustNoOneKS Um...You realize, don't you, that the premise of my thread is that the "crazy or disturbed label" on Carl Jung is EXACTLY the opposite of what I believe to be true. The title isn't to let you know he WAS NUTS...it is to give you an "ah ha!" moment where you would think the accusation was over-the-top! Did I goof with the title? The suggestion in the science magazines suggesting Jung may have been "mad" are a blatant "smear campaign" (in my mind from BIG PHARMA AND BIG MEDICINE) due to the battle between the non-drug approach to emotional illness (Jung's and Freud's "talking-cure" having NO MEDS) as apposed to BIG PHARMA who are pushing for more and more drug therapy (which only "masks" mental disorders and never cures them.) Hope more folks will read the introduction and not go by the title...maybe I need to make a new thread called: "...The AMAZING "Therapy/catastrophic Art" of the strictly SANE Carl Jung." (I guess I could do that...) Thanks for the post! O'sCookie I did read the introduction. Does not change my opinion though. Sorry if I hurt some feelings by not feeling the same way you do about your idol. I Want To Believe |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/20/2019 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe "Catastrophe Art" and what he may or may NOT have known during his career (especially with Immanuel Velikovsky whispering sweet nightmare theories in his ear for decades!)...but one can speculate a little just for fun! I posted this comment on a thread concerning the lack of sunlight and starlight in a NASA video--and the person observing it thinking that maybe NASA "photoshops the stars" when they release film footage to the public. Link to the October 2019 thread: Thread: NASA forgot to add the stars! [link to imgur.com (secure)] If Jung would have understood the science behind the report by Eric Dollard (a Bell Lab genius)...this too may be found in some of this "therapy art exercises" that appear in the RED BOOK. Watch the video below and consider how you might PAINT a visual of what Dollard is reporting about the sun. I think there ARE MATCHES in some of Jung's images! Like maybe these 2: Taking Eric Dollard's info about the sun "transforming signals from another dimension" THIS IMAGE could see our sun 1/2 in OUR dimension and 1/2 in the "INFORMATION DIMENSION" with the energy signals transformed into light by our tiny Earth's atmosphere (the NORTH facing "org" while the other planets are at East, South and West circling the sun.) And...bizaar idea--could the "red dot" with the line AT THE BOTTOM be a "parallel version of our Earth in another dimension?" UDECIDE! (But it works for me!lol!) and :JungGalactCapact: O'sCookie I'm with him on the UFO flying below. And OP, are we trying to photograph the Astronaut or the stars here? If the exposure is set so we see the stars the Astronaut and Earth would be completely whited out by overexposure. NOPE, Louis! It's even MORE STRANGE THAN THAT! Sorry I missed this thread in October...better late than never! lol! Here is a video from a Bell Lab "genius" Eric Dollard who explains to you that what we know about the sun and stars (as of 2013 at the filming of Dollard in his car!)--but they keep this fact a secret even in 2019--will blow your mind! (Most of Dollard's Youtube videos have been scrubbed thanks to Google censoring--HINT: use duck duck Go to search for them.) [link to ericpdollard.com] [link to youtu.be (secure)] 2 Minute duration Eric Dollard talking about the sun. His last sentence in that video is chilling: "...ALL THEORIES COLLAPSE once you realize you can't see the sun and stars in space!" Dollard explains briefly (video is only 2 minutes) that--just like the current videos from Douglas Vogt circulating on GLP now about THE REAL STUFF ABOUT SOLAR LIGHT and the Solar Micro-Nova Theory--you do NOT see sun or starlight in space. There needs to be what Dollard calls "Gross matter" interacting with the energy from these bodies to be able to see them. Therefore, the atmosphere of the Earth allows us to see the sun's and the star's light patterns...but the VOID of space does not allow this "trick" of energy. Why this isn't generally known is hard to understand except that according to Dollard it is part of the whole cabal of Nuclear Energy (who wants the public to believe the sun is "on fire" and is a nuclear oven... which it isn't!) Wow! The things we learn on GLP! LONG LIVE GLP "CITIZEN SCIENTISTS!!" O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/22/2019 01:52 AM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 11/24/2019 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe I made the repost above into its own thread, given the audacious claim that the SUN MAY BE IN 2 DIMENSIONS AT ONCE (and Carl Jung's amazing graphic which seems to co-sign exactly in "characture form" what Dollard was explaining in this video.) Douglas Vogt gets into this discussion as well in his own video I've included in the new thread. This EXPLAINS some of Jung's paintings if you understand the CONTEXT! Wow! Please join the discussion at link below if you find this interesting! Thread: "Merging Dimensions" Update pg.6:The SUN may actually exist in TWO different Dimensions! Eric Dollard Video/Art inside. O'sCookie :DVogtWithBook: Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 11/24/2019 01:53 AM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
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TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 12/06/2019 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Update for thread: HERE'S A NEW ONE! HOW ABOUT AN EXPERIMENT? O.K...All you "art therapy experts!" Please WATCH this latest update from the Dunning/Vogt/Davidson crew on the solar micro-nova and some of the information it contains. Think in terms of Immanuel Velikovsky imparting this SAME (and even more emotionally charged info) to Karl Jung back in the 70's when they were friends (but kept it a strict secret to protect Jung's career.) Can you check out the images in the RED BOOK and other publications where Jung's "therapy art" would have been published...and see if any of those "disturbed images" matches the SPACE WEATHER being reported in this newest update? I believe I KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE PAINTING that would be a candidate for this information (especially at the end where Dunning describes the MOVEMENT OF THE OCEANS at the hour of the pole shift/rotation stoppage. (See below the video) WATCH THIS and see if you can think of an image from Jung: [link to youtu.be (secure)] 14 minute duration. Dr. Dunning explains the Vogt "reset cycle" of 12,068 years and gives a date for the next cycle...It's pretty close in geological terms--27 years ahead. Published 11-2019...Looks good! and TheOracle'sCookie "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |
TheOracle'sCookie (OP) User ID: 76948143 United States 12/07/2019 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BIG update Top Pg.3: "What About BOB?" meets "What About Carl?" Psychology Today Suggestion Carl Jung May have been "disturbe Pointless redeux of Planet X bullshit!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75218624 Another 2012 psyop. All from a book the cia released. Ben D. has lost his way. I appreciate your position with your post. However, has it ever dawned on you that the whole "Planet-X" theory and "cult" (I believe that is how it has progressed since the late 1990's!)...is ALL C.I.A. DISINFORMATION to distract the population from understanding the truly dire forces in play right now having to do with our own star...and the theories of Dr. Paul LaViolette on The Galactic Super Wave Theory. I'm sorry to let you know this, but that "light" (and especially the "blue light"--Kachina) is the beginning visual signs of an in-bound Galactic Super Wave. In itself, the GSW isn't thought to be that critical for the solar system--However, the problem being is the GSWs can TRIGGER a solar micro-nova which is very problematic for our planet. If you don't know what the "solar micro-nova cycle" is, please read the introduction paragraph on pg. 1 & watch the videos. It's all there for you! O'sCookie Last Edited by TheOracle'sCookie on 12/10/2019 05:30 PM "Know ONE thing absolutely...and you will UNDERSTAND everything. Walt Whitman "Leaves of Grass" "...Buckle up buttercups cuz this shit is going to go biblical." GLP'er Thread: Update Pg14 2 Trees of Genesis! Alien Covenant Ridley Scott's new Movie: Carries Message on DNA and Ark of the Covenant! Video Thread: Updated: The Radcliffe WAVE Discovered along Milky Way's Dark Rift! Is this LaViolette's Super Wave? Thread: "Founder of Analytical Psychology," Carl Jung Called "Disturbed" Due to His "Red Book!" Video Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova, Thread: 2-23-2020 pg. 8 Big Update: The DAVINCI EQUINOX CODE: Ancient Equinox temples were WARNINGS not "celebrations" of the sun." Thread: Disney's TV Series "LOST" MARATHON! Numbers/Script Match Future News! 2018-2020 Target Years. |