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Well, at least we agree on Vitamin D3. In retrospect with hindsight (always handy), the mostly worldwide lock-down may have been overkill. However, we saw China's reaction and we did not know what we were dealing with at all! Now, at least we know a little bit about this Virus, and have a more measured approach. I do disagree strongly that this is just "a bad flu". I personally know of healthy men in their 30's, 40's, and 50's with no co-morbidities, die of this disease. The one common factor was they ignored it, trying to keep working until they could not breath, and then it was too late. In Mexico, where the health system has virtually collapsed, the death rate among people who catch the virus, is 9.7%! Think about that. If the US health system collapsed, that would be 1.2 million deaths.. [link to coronavirus.jhu.edu (secure)]
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I take 4000iu VIT-D3 every day, I also place a drop of Thieves Oil in my face mask everytime I change the mask, which can be up to twenty times plus a day.....
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Snap for the D3. Although if I tested positive, I would up that to 50,000 first day, and 20,000 2nd day, (it sounds a lot but I have read about it) and stay in bed as much as possible. I also take 1000mg Vitamin c and a multi-vitamin.

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I know that this is, of course, a conspiracy site, but it does get pretty bleak at times. What are your thoughts on how this will play out in the UK and USA?
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The US is a completely different, but from a UK point of view, I am going to go against the general school of thought with many regulars on this thread, I'm not saying I'm right or the posters here are wrong. I feel some encouragement with so many scientific companies announcing success with vaccines, I know we are in early days, but I think we are on the right track.

I truly believe we will over come this virus, yes there will be some tough days ahead, but I really don't see this virus as a end of civilisation event.

The economy is not DOA, it's going to take years to get back on track, but it will slowly grow over the coming years.

I see every day folk who are unwell with this virus in my line of work, the sick children and mentally disabled are particularly hard to witness, but life goes on, we go on, we have to keep going, that's the only way to move forward.

Not arguing with anyone, just my current take on the situation.

Best regards to all on this thread.....
calm..
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KBO. "keep buggering on" Churchill
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KBO is all we can doukCanadian F
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For you, Gent, and Lago, my hearty recommendation to grab a copy of "The Splendid and the Vile" by Erik Larson. Top notch.
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The US is a completely different, but from a UK point of view, I am going to go against the general school of thought with many regulars on this thread, I'm not saying I'm right or the posters here are wrong. I feel some encouragement with so many scientific companies announcing success with vaccines, I know we are in early days, but I think we are on the right track.

I truly believe we will over come this virus, yes there will be some tough days ahead, but I really don't see this virus as a end of civilisation event.

The economy is not DOA, it's going to take years to get back on track, but it will slowly grow over the coming years.

I see every day folk who are unwell with this virus in my line of work, the sick children and mentally disabled are particularly hard to witness, but life goes on, we go on, we have to keep going, that's the only way to move forward.

Not arguing with anyone, just my current take on the situation.

Best regards to all on this thread.....
calm..
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KBO. "keep buggering on" Churchill
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KBO is all we can doukCanadian F
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For you, Gent, and Lago, my hearty recommendation to grab a copy of "The Splendid and the Vile" by Erik Larson. Top notch.
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Thanks Croc...
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Sad stuff
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I am all for muddling through. But we are all capable because our stomachs aren’t grumbling, we aren’t dehydrated, and our homes are nice & toasty.

Dyin’s friend that wasn’t allowed to even take two weeks off for covid19..... or the kids that keep getting sent to daycare with fever meds to mask it.....

These are cracks that no one wants to see.

So sure we are muddling through, but what about the mom that felt helpless and shot her kids & then herself, this week.

Compassion is a tool to consider when discussing that we need to keep going..... exactly who is it that needs to keep going and why?
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Cracks certainly, mental health issues definitely, we have to watch and have empathy with everyone we know.

Hope all's well with your family bubble CC...
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tt 1
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I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
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Very much so....
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I’m back...I will post about my little outing later..
Riff-sincere positive energy to you that you didn’t pick up the asshole freeloader virus...it doesn’t sound like you were around him long enough to get you sick..FYI Comet is running Star Trek movies all this weekend, I think...
Interesting to me all this talk of Churchill, ‘cause his birthday is November 30th..same as my mother, RIP....Churchill was amazing, one they should teach more over here in high school...

Wanted to post this before I forget
In your spare time, consider at least skimming this pdf
It’s called a whack on the side of the head...all about creative thinking and these days we need all the MacGuyvers (I think I am making the right comparison, I hope) that we can get...

[link to courses.washington.edu]

I mention this because all of us are going to need every ounce of creativity and innovation we can muster, and think outside of the box, to quote that now rather trite cliche....

I especially like page 52 discussion on what is life?

It’s not that long, a good read with lots of funny pictures.....

Hope to start a spark in our young whippersnappers...Snuf, Pillar, yes you...but it’s good for all ages
CC, Ik you get to see this with little man everyday....you and I discussed it before..

I mean I hope you all apply some different thinking in your respective fields or perhaps mention it to someone else...let’s face it they have been throwing the kitchen sink at this thing looking for solutions...
 Quoting: Bastetcat

My use of whipper-snapper is "a sprightly young person"(I now realize it means something a little different here in the USA).

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I am all for muddling through. But we are all capable because our stomachs aren’t grumbling, we aren’t dehydrated, and our homes are nice & toasty.

Dyin’s friend that wasn’t allowed to even take two weeks off for covid19..... or the kids that keep getting sent to daycare with fever meds to mask it.....

These are cracks that no one wants to see.

So sure we are muddling through, but what about the mom that felt helpless and shot her kids & then herself, this week.

Compassion is a tool to consider when discussing that we need to keep going..... exactly who is it that needs to keep going and why?
 Quoting: CleverCreator


Cracks certainly, mental health issues definitely, we have to watch and have empathy with everyone we know.

Hope all's well with your family bubble CC...
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hugs

Never dull.

Stay safe!
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Southern Alberta woman in her 20s dies from COVID-19

[link to calgary.ctvnews.ca (secure)]

This is the third victim in their 20s in Alberta to die from the disease.
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Are lockdowns killing babies?

Similar to the observations made by Ashish KC and colleagues1 in Nepal, we previously reported an increase in stillbirths associated with the COVID-19 pandemic in the UK, from 2·38 per 1000 births (between Oct 1, 2019, and Jan 31, 2020) to 9·31 per 1000 births (between Feb 1 and June 14, 2020), but unrelated to clinical severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection


We agree that pandemic lockdowns have potentially harmful effects.5 The reductions in care seeking and their associations with adverse outcomes observed in Nepal and in the UK serve to emphasise the need for balanced public health messaging.

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I'll be honest, you girls don't bother me

Much......

It does Kinda feel like a Community

Almost like where I THOUGHT I fit in

till they tried to Kill me and take everything I owned.

But this IS Different. You are ALL Good people.

Sadly we are watching our World end.

I miss my Genuine Friends too, all of them.
All the way Back to Jay Fields, died in 2006.

Prolly Miss Earnie the Big dog, the Most.

"He Never Judged me, never Cheated me, Never Lied to me"

Always wanting me to scratch his ears, or feed him some of my canned Veni.

Makes me cry, missing that Big Guy.


Never forget how much he just LOVED chicken bones.
Whole unmunched by me fried chicken even more.
He Did get lots of whole chicken from the bag.
I Always share with friends.

I could swear he could smell fried chicken from 2 miles away.

Really loved my Thieves Oil too.
At 15 he started Breeding again while on it.....

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We love you, too, Henry Bowman. You ARE part of us. Good, bad, or indifferent, we're all in this together.

You made me cry over all my dogs over the years. Not a bad one in the bunch, even the pit mixes. All good dogs. Not all were smart, but they watched over us.

I gotta go. I really do have tears falling down my face tonight. I shouldn't have gotten the darned turkey. Don't feel like it today. If it weren't for the left-overs....
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Ref sadness, I have been feeling it for months when thinking about the ignorant masses continuing to shop, go to restaurants, drink in bars, and congregate for rallies or demonstrations.

Many will end up dead or disabled unless we get really lucky with the virus.

As for me, I am happy. I am with The Queen daily and I see NEW LIFE all around me. My big Jersey cow is very near to calving and the little heifer, Vaquita, is growing, although it looks like she has dwarf genes.

The chayote vines are popping out fruit which we eat daily.

I checked out the pond yesterday which is fenced off to keep the cows out. The sugar cane is taking off and the bananas I planted a few weeks ago are green.

For you who have not made the decision, having an acre or so in the country is a great long term survival strategy. Its also a peaceful life.

I hope the vaccines work, but I am worried about side effects such as the rumors about destroying fertility. I pray that this info in not correct and humanity is able to fight the pandemic.

Its like in battle, you do your duty even if its dangerous, but if you die, you are not going to be able to help anyone.

So, survival above all!

As long as I am here, I can help others. I sounded the alarm months ago. Few listened and fewer adhered to the safety guidelines.

So, we stay home and we prep, plant, and improve our homestead.

Back to the barn tonight. Its hard to believe how much useful stuff we accumulated that we simply could not FIND before. Now, I am going to use all of those preps.
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eekalert
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I'll be honest, you girls don't bother me

Much......

It does Kinda feel like a Community

Almost like where I THOUGHT I fit in

till they tried to Kill me and take everything I owned.

But this IS Different. You are ALL Good people.

Sadly we are watching our World end.

I miss my Genuine Friends too, all of them.
All the way Back to Jay Fields, died in 2006.

Prolly Miss Earnie the Big dog, the Most.

"He Never Judged me, never Cheated me, Never Lied to me"

Always wanting me to scratch his ears, or feed him some of my canned Veni.

Makes me cry, missing that Big Guy.


Never forget how much he just LOVED chicken bones.
Whole unmunched by me fried chicken even more.
He Did get lots of whole chicken from the bag.
I Always share with friends.

I could swear he could smell fried chicken from 2 miles away.

Really loved my Thieves Oil too.
At 15 he started Breeding again while on it.....

 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


We love you, too, Henry Bowman. You ARE part of us. Good, bad, or indifferent, we're all in this together.

You made me cry over all my dogs over the years. Not a bad one in the bunch, even the pit mixes. All good dogs. Not all were smart, but they watched over us.

I gotta go. I really do have tears falling down my face tonight. I shouldn't have gotten the darned turkey. Don't feel like it today. If it weren't for the left-overs....
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Ref sadness, I have been feeling it for months when thinking about the ignorant masses continuing to shop, go to restaurants, drink in bars, and congregate for rallies or demonstrations.

Many will end up dead or disabled unless we get really lucky with the virus.

As for me, I am happy. I am with The Queen daily and I see NEW LIFE all around me. My big Jersey cow is very near to calving and the little heifer, Vaquita, is growing, although it looks like she has dwarf genes.

The chayote vines are popping out fruit which we eat daily.

I checked out the pond yesterday which is fenced off to keep the cows out. The sugar cane is taking off and the bananas I planted a few weeks ago are green.

For you who have not made the decision, having an acre or so in the country is a great long term survival strategy. Its also a peaceful life.

I hope the vaccines work, but I am worried about side effects such as the rumors about destroying fertility. I pray that this info in not correct and humanity is able to fight the pandemic.

Its like in battle, you do your duty even if its dangerous, but if you die, you are not going to be able to help anyone.

So, survival above all!

As long as I am here, I can help others. I sounded the alarm months ago. Few listened and fewer adhered to the safety guidelines.

So, we stay home and we prep, plant, and improve our homestead.

Back to the barn tonight. Its hard to believe how much useful stuff we accumulated that we simply could not FIND before. Now, I am going to use all of those preps.
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When I read your posts, I remember the James Herriot books I read in my youth..They are great memories.
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eekalert
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


God help us


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eekalert
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


God help us


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It isn’t God’s job.....

He gave you free will. You could ask your friends and family to hold still.... but again FREE WILL.
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eekalert
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


God help us


 Quoting: TreeBark


It isn’t God’s job.....

He gave you free will. You could ask your friends and family to hold still.... but again FREE WILL.
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This is the early traffic, plenty more coming this week.


And lest we forget? Those that travel "to" somewhere can be counted on to travel "from" that location back to their starting point.

So we get doubles on the number of contacts that occur on a round trip basis.
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eekalert
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


God help us


 Quoting: TreeBark


It isn’t God’s job.....

He gave you free will. You could ask your friends and family to hold still.... but again FREE WILL.
 Quoting: CleverCreator


"Free will: It is a bitch."
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Hey, if anyone has a second to help me find something, I've tried using the search function with no luck.

Somewhere recently was a post about Covid going dormant in the stomach or stomach lining where it can avoid detection and reactivate later.

Can anyone point me to that article, please and thank you?
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eekalert
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God help us


 Quoting: TreeBark


It isn’t God’s job.....

He gave you free will. You could ask your friends and family to hold still.... but again FREE WILL.
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"Free will: It is a bitch."
- The Devil's Advocate
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One of my favorite movies!

Ever!
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Hey, if anyone has a second to help me find something, I've tried using the search function with no luck.

Somewhere recently was a post about Covid going dormant in the stomach or stomach lining where it can avoid detection and reactivate later.

Can anyone point me to that article, please and thank you?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Can’t find a study.... but here is a Bloomberg article to start

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
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Just a dumb and angry as the last one


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eekalert
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


God help us


 Quoting: TreeBark


It isn’t God’s job.....

He gave you free will. You could ask your friends and family to hold still.... but again FREE WILL.
 Quoting: CleverCreator




This is the early traffic, plenty more coming this week.


And lest we forget? Those that travel "to" somewhere can be counted on to travel "from" that location back to their starting point.

So we get doubles on the number of contacts that occur on a round trip basis.
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People in the usa traveling for thanksgiving are fulfilling the population control part of the georgia guidestones, the illuminati are having their work done for them.

And this is going to be another spread just like the initial virus chinese new year spread in the beginning of this year.
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Hey, if anyone has a second to help me find something, I've tried using the search function with no luck.

Somewhere recently was a post about Covid going dormant in the stomach or stomach lining where it can avoid detection and reactivate later.

Can anyone point me to that article, please and thank you?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Can’t find a study.... but here is a Bloomberg article to start

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
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Thanks, CC, but that's an article on active infection of the GI system. There was one about Covid going completely latent in the stomach with no active growth and negative testing then reactivating months later. That's the one I'm having trouble finding.
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Hey, if anyone has a second to help me find something, I've tried using the search function with no luck.

Somewhere recently was a post about Covid going dormant in the stomach or stomach lining where it can avoid detection and reactivate later.

Can anyone point me to that article, please and thank you?
 Quoting: Riff-Raff


Can’t find a study.... but here is a Bloomberg article to start

[link to www.bloomberg.com (secure)]
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Thanks, CC, but that's an article on active infection of the GI system. There was one about Covid going completely latent in the stomach with no active growth and negative testing then reactivating months later. That's the one I'm having trouble finding.
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Dutchy!!!
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...

I see you are also a fan of Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Terry Thomas!
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Very much so....
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I’m back...I will post about my little outing later..
Riff-sincere positive energy to you that you didn’t pick up the asshole freeloader virus...it doesn’t sound like you were around him long enough to get you sick..FYI Comet is running Star Trek movies all this weekend, I think...
Interesting to me all this talk of Churchill, ‘cause his birthday is November 30th..same as my mother, RIP....Churchill was amazing, one they should teach more over here in high school...

Wanted to post this before I forget
In your spare time, consider at least skimming this pdf
It’s called a whack on the side of the head...all about creative thinking and these days we need all the MacGuyvers (I think I am making the right comparison, I hope) that we can get...

[link to courses.washington.edu]

I mention this because all of us are going to need every ounce of creativity and innovation we can muster, and think outside of the box, to quote that now rather trite cliche....

I especially like page 52 discussion on what is life?

It’s not that long, a good read with lots of funny pictures.....

Hope to start a spark in our young whippersnappers...Snuf, Pillar, yes you...but it’s good for all ages
CC, Ik you get to see this with little man everyday....you and I discussed it before..

I mean I hope you all apply some different thinking in your respective fields or perhaps mention it to someone else...let’s face it they have been throwing the kitchen sink at this thing looking for solutions...
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My use of whipper-snapper is "a sprightly young person"(I now realize it means something a little different here in the USA).
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Wait, what? I have to go look now, because I thought it meant young person too...
Life finds a way.
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Heartbreaking


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We are 10 months in......

And normalcy bias..... still going strong!

Police: People waited up to 14 hours for food at one of Colorado's first In-n-Out Burger locations

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Oh man....

They did hedge their bets. Invested in ultra lows and - 20 too.


University of Iowa hospitals get freezers to house COVID-19 vaccines

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